Spirituality Therapists in Redmond, WA

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Doug Wheeler, DPhil, LMHC
Counselor, DPhil, LMHC
Verified Verified
Redmond, WA 98052
I've been a therapist for over 35 years, generating great confidence in my expertise. My style is personal and interactive and I love meeting with people. I draw from contemplative and cognitive-behavioral theories, utilizing Internal Family Systems theory as the primary fuel for healing and restoration. I respect the role of spirituality in a person's life, and honor all religious traditions. I help my clients explore their current struggles through the lens of trauma, honoring the delicate balance between nature and nurture. My goal is to help an individual find peace through embracing their authentic Self.
I've been a therapist for over 35 years, generating great confidence in my expertise. My style is personal and interactive and I love meeting with people. I draw from contemplative and cognitive-behavioral theories, utilizing Internal Family Systems theory as the primary fuel for healing and restoration. I respect the role of spirituality in a person's life, and honor all religious traditions. I help my clients explore their current struggles through the lens of trauma, honoring the delicate balance between nature and nurture. My goal is to help an individual find peace through embracing their authentic Self.
(425) 470-6886 View (425) 470-6886
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Lily Myers
Counselor, LMHCA
Verified Verified
Redmond, WA 98052
I am a queer, sex-positive therapist with a passion for helping folks find greater ease, possibility, and liberation in their lives. Life and relationships are not one-size-fits-all; I help my clients to discover their own authentic truth and desires in the realms of sexuality, relationships, identity, work, creativity, spirituality, and more. I support my clients- individuals, couples, and polycules- in finding their own unique joy, fulfillment, and authentic path.
I am a queer, sex-positive therapist with a passion for helping folks find greater ease, possibility, and liberation in their lives. Life and relationships are not one-size-fits-all; I help my clients to discover their own authentic truth and desires in the realms of sexuality, relationships, identity, work, creativity, spirituality, and more. I support my clients- individuals, couples, and polycules- in finding their own unique joy, fulfillment, and authentic path.
(206) 590-2796 View (206) 590-2796
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Crow Counseling
Counselor, MA, LMHC
Verified Verified
2 Endorsed
Redmond, WA 98052  (Online Only)
I work with clients who are from any or all of the following groups: polyamorous/non-monogamous, BDSM/kinky, LGBTQQIA+, geeky, and alternative spirituality and/or atheist.
My name is Kelley O'Hanlon and I am a therapist in Redmond, WA. I support clients in their desire to live more fulfilling lives by means of individual and couples therapy. I help clients dealing with anxiety, life-transitions, family issues, couples/relationship issues, and depression. One of my strengths is tailoring my approach and methods to what works best for you. My goal is to help and empower you to uncover the answers you already have, but may presently find just out of reach.
I work with clients who are from any or all of the following groups: polyamorous/non-monogamous, BDSM/kinky, LGBTQQIA+, geeky, and alternative spirituality and/or atheist.
My name is Kelley O'Hanlon and I am a therapist in Redmond, WA. I support clients in their desire to live more fulfilling lives by means of individual and couples therapy. I help clients dealing with anxiety, life-transitions, family issues, couples/relationship issues, and depression. One of my strengths is tailoring my approach and methods to what works best for you. My goal is to help and empower you to uncover the answers you already have, but may presently find just out of reach.
(425) 321-0083 View (425) 321-0083
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Malinda Thomas
Counselor, LMHC
Verified Verified
Redmond, WA 98052  (Online Only)
I am dedicated to helping adults 18-65 plus with mood disorders, self-destructive behaviors, anxiety, stress, self-confidence, boundary-setting, spirituality, and substance abuse.
Hi, I'm Malinda Thomas and I am a dually licensed master's clinical mental health and substance abuse therapist. My counseling style interweaves solution-focused, acceptance and commitment, relapse prevention, and cognitive behavioral therapy. I’ve worked with individuals and groups through various levels of mental health illness and substance abuse. My therapeutic approach is providing an acceptance commitment and cognitive behavioral-based psychotherapy to assist clients in the discovery of their strengths, values, and support systems.
I am dedicated to helping adults 18-65 plus with mood disorders, self-destructive behaviors, anxiety, stress, self-confidence, boundary-setting, spirituality, and substance abuse.
Hi, I'm Malinda Thomas and I am a dually licensed master's clinical mental health and substance abuse therapist. My counseling style interweaves solution-focused, acceptance and commitment, relapse prevention, and cognitive behavioral therapy. I’ve worked with individuals and groups through various levels of mental health illness and substance abuse. My therapeutic approach is providing an acceptance commitment and cognitive behavioral-based psychotherapy to assist clients in the discovery of their strengths, values, and support systems.
(323) 643-8569 View (323) 643-8569
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Judy P Chang
Psychologist, PsyD
Verified Verified
Redmond, WA 98052  (Online Only)
I understand the impact of exercise, nutrition, environment, drugs & alcohol use, relationships, past traumas, spirituality, and more on mental health.
I have offices in Redmond, WA and Portland, OR. I'm licensed in NY, OR, WA, currently inactive status in HI and CA but willing to activate HI. I do double sessions and am practicing virtually only. Treatment is very focused, short term, holistic therapy for a wide variety of issues including anxiety, depression, trauma, addictions and relationships. I work with families, couples or individuals of all ages.
I understand the impact of exercise, nutrition, environment, drugs & alcohol use, relationships, past traumas, spirituality, and more on mental health.
I have offices in Redmond, WA and Portland, OR. I'm licensed in NY, OR, WA, currently inactive status in HI and CA but willing to activate HI. I do double sessions and am practicing virtually only. Treatment is very focused, short term, holistic therapy for a wide variety of issues including anxiety, depression, trauma, addictions and relationships. I work with families, couples or individuals of all ages.
(831) 238-0416 View (831) 238-0416
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Leslie B Savage
Marriage & Family Therapist, MS, LMFT, MdFT, FOT
Verified Verified
Redmond, WA 98052
I have discovered that a sense of belonging, security, and peace is found within our being. I am a certified Focusing-Oriented psychotherapist with a Master's in Marriage and Family Therapy and a specialization in Medical Family Therapy. I work with an integrative psycho-spiritual approach that incorporates Internal Family Systems Therapy, Sensorimotor Psychotherapy, Mindfulness, and Contemplative Spirituality, to access the innate wisdom of the body-mind-spirit to heal. If you are suffering from family-of-origin issues, trauma, betrayal, depression, anxiety, illness, physical pain, or an inability to feel connected, I can help.
I have discovered that a sense of belonging, security, and peace is found within our being. I am a certified Focusing-Oriented psychotherapist with a Master's in Marriage and Family Therapy and a specialization in Medical Family Therapy. I work with an integrative psycho-spiritual approach that incorporates Internal Family Systems Therapy, Sensorimotor Psychotherapy, Mindfulness, and Contemplative Spirituality, to access the innate wisdom of the body-mind-spirit to heal. If you are suffering from family-of-origin issues, trauma, betrayal, depression, anxiety, illness, physical pain, or an inability to feel connected, I can help.
(425) 358-3374 View (425) 358-3374
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Terran Imani Poindexter
Counselor, MA, LMHC
Verified Verified
Redmond, WA 98052  (Online Only)
I have experience working with clients across gender, ethnic, generational, and religious backgrounds and incorporate spirituality into the therapeutic process when desired by client.
As a therapist, I work to form an empathetic and collaborative relationship with clients and form an understanding of the difficulties that brought them to therapy, explore clients' goals, and how to achieve them. As the client being the expert, we will work to identify what is holding them back from achieving and maintaining their desired results. As a former division l scholar athlete, my goal is to work as a team and encourage clients in a direction towards positive change.
I have experience working with clients across gender, ethnic, generational, and religious backgrounds and incorporate spirituality into the therapeutic process when desired by client.
As a therapist, I work to form an empathetic and collaborative relationship with clients and form an understanding of the difficulties that brought them to therapy, explore clients' goals, and how to achieve them. As the client being the expert, we will work to identify what is holding them back from achieving and maintaining their desired results. As a former division l scholar athlete, my goal is to work as a team and encourage clients in a direction towards positive change.
(425) 490-4736 View (425) 490-4736
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Georgia Faye Grammer
Marriage & Family Therapist, LMFT, MEd, MA
Verified Verified
2 Endorsed
Redmond, WA 98052
I specialize in psychedelic prep/integration, ancestral lineage healing, trauma/complex trauma, grief/loss, transitions, & spirituality.
Accepting clients. To survive in a traumatized, ego-centric culture filled with counterfeit images, we pay a steep price - trauma & pain in our disconnected bodies, loneliness & broken-heartedness in our relationships, an unmet longing for passionate, meaningful engagement with the world. Crisis, illness, pain, suffering & despair become the catalyst for change, awakening our yearning for a more courageous, authentic, embodied life. Speaking to us through symptoms, grief, images, longings, dreams- the soul calls- beckoning us into the unknown, asking us to surrender what no longer serves us. I help people navigate this wilderness.
I specialize in psychedelic prep/integration, ancestral lineage healing, trauma/complex trauma, grief/loss, transitions, & spirituality.
Accepting clients. To survive in a traumatized, ego-centric culture filled with counterfeit images, we pay a steep price - trauma & pain in our disconnected bodies, loneliness & broken-heartedness in our relationships, an unmet longing for passionate, meaningful engagement with the world. Crisis, illness, pain, suffering & despair become the catalyst for change, awakening our yearning for a more courageous, authentic, embodied life. Speaking to us through symptoms, grief, images, longings, dreams- the soul calls- beckoning us into the unknown, asking us to surrender what no longer serves us. I help people navigate this wilderness.
(425) 906-3976 View (425) 906-3976
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Susanna Jorgenson
Counselor, MA, LMHC, NCC
Verified Verified
Redmond, WA 98052  (Online Only)
Availability as of 9/17: Tues/Wed mornings at 10a and Mondays at 1p. Hello there! Understanding your own story and what has led you to this point in your life can feel overwhelming, I’m here to help with that. It's important to know the truth of your own story, identify patterns and see where you might start making changes. My goal is to provide you a space where you can be your authentic self, explore old wounds, gain self-confidence, and take action to live a life aligned with your values. Wherever you are at in your journey of aging, spirituality, and identity is where we’ll start.
Availability as of 9/17: Tues/Wed mornings at 10a and Mondays at 1p. Hello there! Understanding your own story and what has led you to this point in your life can feel overwhelming, I’m here to help with that. It's important to know the truth of your own story, identify patterns and see where you might start making changes. My goal is to provide you a space where you can be your authentic self, explore old wounds, gain self-confidence, and take action to live a life aligned with your values. Wherever you are at in your journey of aging, spirituality, and identity is where we’ll start.
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Tina Choi
Counselor, MA, LMHC
Verified Verified
2 Endorsed
Redmond, WA 98052  (Online Only)
Please email me for fastest response! Life can be distressing to manage and cope with. Maybe you’re feeling stuck and unable to enjoy the seasons of your life. Do you feel you’re in a cycle of where joy feels elusive and hopelessness feels near? Perhaps you are feeling overwhelmed, angry or simply numb. Maybe you carry the burden of not being able to talk about experiences because of feelings of shame and insecurity. In all of these experiences, you are not and do not have to be alone. Together, we can learn how to embody & practice an enduring peace throughout all seasons.
Please email me for fastest response! Life can be distressing to manage and cope with. Maybe you’re feeling stuck and unable to enjoy the seasons of your life. Do you feel you’re in a cycle of where joy feels elusive and hopelessness feels near? Perhaps you are feeling overwhelmed, angry or simply numb. Maybe you carry the burden of not being able to talk about experiences because of feelings of shame and insecurity. In all of these experiences, you are not and do not have to be alone. Together, we can learn how to embody & practice an enduring peace throughout all seasons.
(425) 584-6370 View (425) 584-6370
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Hiromi Gerety
Counselor, LMHC, LPC, NCC, MA, MHR
Verified Verified
1 Endorsed
Redmond, WA 98052
Are you struggling or stuck? Do you feel confused, overwhelmed, stressed, anxious, or afraid? Do you feel sad, lonely, empty, lost, worthless, ashamed, or guilty? I am here to help you to go through your emotional pain, difficult life issues, relational issues, adjustment issues, mental health issues, or other overwhelming troubles and brokenness. I will listen and work with you to solve your issues and achieve your goals, to adjust to changes, to find yourself, and to feel connected to the world around you. I will walk with you in your journey to facilitate your healing and to grow into your full potential.
Are you struggling or stuck? Do you feel confused, overwhelmed, stressed, anxious, or afraid? Do you feel sad, lonely, empty, lost, worthless, ashamed, or guilty? I am here to help you to go through your emotional pain, difficult life issues, relational issues, adjustment issues, mental health issues, or other overwhelming troubles and brokenness. I will listen and work with you to solve your issues and achieve your goals, to adjust to changes, to find yourself, and to feel connected to the world around you. I will walk with you in your journey to facilitate your healing and to grow into your full potential.
(215) 392-6986 View (215) 392-6986
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Talia Parker | Further Healing Therapies
Counselor, MA, LMHCA
Verified Verified
2 Endorsed
Redmond, WA 98052
Feeling lost and disconnected from your Self? Perhaps you feel overwhelmed, exhausted, or hopeless. Maybe you wonder, "What's wrong with me?" Whatever you're experiencing, I believe that you have the ability to heal. How? By not only addressing your symptoms, but the underlying, root causes of them. I support clients in processing the root of their pain, so they can remember and release unconscious material that has been keeping them stuck, symptomatic, and separated. When you process at the root, your symptoms resolve naturally because they're no longer needed, making way for greater health, wholeness, freedom, and peace.
Feeling lost and disconnected from your Self? Perhaps you feel overwhelmed, exhausted, or hopeless. Maybe you wonder, "What's wrong with me?" Whatever you're experiencing, I believe that you have the ability to heal. How? By not only addressing your symptoms, but the underlying, root causes of them. I support clients in processing the root of their pain, so they can remember and release unconscious material that has been keeping them stuck, symptomatic, and separated. When you process at the root, your symptoms resolve naturally because they're no longer needed, making way for greater health, wholeness, freedom, and peace.
(253) 499-6937 View (253) 499-6937
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Daniel McKenzie
Marriage & Family Therapist, MS, LMFT, CSAT
Verified Verified
Redmond, WA 98052
Doesn't life feel too hard sometimes? Whether you're struggling with negative emotions, had something happen to you, or created a mess of your own, I want to help you find your way again and for you to know you're not alone. I've been helping adults, couples, parents, and families for over 15 years get their lives moving in the direction they want again, and hope you'll give me a chance too. I offer a client-centered approach for your unique situation and needs. For some people and in some stages of therapy I'll do a lot of listening. For other people and stages, I'll provide perspective and guidance as desired.
Doesn't life feel too hard sometimes? Whether you're struggling with negative emotions, had something happen to you, or created a mess of your own, I want to help you find your way again and for you to know you're not alone. I've been helping adults, couples, parents, and families for over 15 years get their lives moving in the direction they want again, and hope you'll give me a chance too. I offer a client-centered approach for your unique situation and needs. For some people and in some stages of therapy I'll do a lot of listening. For other people and stages, I'll provide perspective and guidance as desired.
(206) 900-8208 View (206) 900-8208
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lift hold heal
Counselor, MPS, ATR, LMHCA
Verified Verified
2 Endorsed
Redmond, WA 98052
I am an art therapist, artist and creative person who understands emotions and the body and how they work together. I am also a life-long learner who will always be honing her skills because I want to be someone who can serve every population I am working with in the best way that I can. Additionally, I am a human who believes in Spirit, so I believe there is a reason we come across one another's paths. We will teach one another and grow together if you choose to work with me.
I am an art therapist, artist and creative person who understands emotions and the body and how they work together. I am also a life-long learner who will always be honing her skills because I want to be someone who can serve every population I am working with in the best way that I can. Additionally, I am a human who believes in Spirit, so I believe there is a reason we come across one another's paths. We will teach one another and grow together if you choose to work with me.
(425) 217-8627 View (425) 217-8627
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Ben Steel
Counselor, EdD, LMHC, CMPC
Verified Verified
Redmond, WA 98052
Waitlist for new clients
I believe that you can experience healing and growth. I believe that everyone has experienced setbacks, hardships, and traumas in life that make it harder to love well and fulfill your personal goals. I believe that healthy, honest, vulnerable relationships are foundational to growth and healing. I believe that it is ultimately up to you to decide how to move forward and choose the path towards improvement. I believe that through honest evaluation and the hard work of taking ownership of your life along with improved relationships you can become empowered to address those issues and become who you are meant to be.
I believe that you can experience healing and growth. I believe that everyone has experienced setbacks, hardships, and traumas in life that make it harder to love well and fulfill your personal goals. I believe that healthy, honest, vulnerable relationships are foundational to growth and healing. I believe that it is ultimately up to you to decide how to move forward and choose the path towards improvement. I believe that through honest evaluation and the hard work of taking ownership of your life along with improved relationships you can become empowered to address those issues and become who you are meant to be.
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Thomas Beck
Mental Health Counselor, PhD
Verified Verified
Redmond, WA 98052  (Online Only)
In this time of unprecedented loss and stress due to COVID-19 and other world events such as accelerating climate change, I can help you deal with anxiety and depression. My orientation is transpersonal as I see physical and emotional issues as doorways to transformation and spiritual awakening. In my psychotherapy practice, people have achieved new levels of personal freedom and self-esteem. Together, we can enrich your quality of life and enhance your creativity. Integrative healing encompasses body, mind & spirit. We all deserve to be happy in our bodies and our lives. I work also with couples to resolve relationship issues.
In this time of unprecedented loss and stress due to COVID-19 and other world events such as accelerating climate change, I can help you deal with anxiety and depression. My orientation is transpersonal as I see physical and emotional issues as doorways to transformation and spiritual awakening. In my psychotherapy practice, people have achieved new levels of personal freedom and self-esteem. Together, we can enrich your quality of life and enhance your creativity. Integrative healing encompasses body, mind & spirit. We all deserve to be happy in our bodies and our lives. I work also with couples to resolve relationship issues.
(206) 260-0681 View (206) 260-0681
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Anil Coumar
Counselor, MA, LMHC
Verified Verified
12 Endorsed
Redmond, WA 98053
I practice Non-dual therapy, also known as non-dual counseling or non-dual psychology, which is a form of therapy that focuses on helping individuals to recognize and understand the true nature of their being and to cultivate a sense of inner peace and well-being. Non-dual therapy typically involves exploring and questioning the individual's thoughts, beliefs, and assumptions about other people and situations and helping them to develop a deeper understanding of their true nature and the interconnectedness of all things. This can involve meditation, mindfulness, self-inquiry, and more traditional forms of psychotherapy.
I practice Non-dual therapy, also known as non-dual counseling or non-dual psychology, which is a form of therapy that focuses on helping individuals to recognize and understand the true nature of their being and to cultivate a sense of inner peace and well-being. Non-dual therapy typically involves exploring and questioning the individual's thoughts, beliefs, and assumptions about other people and situations and helping them to develop a deeper understanding of their true nature and the interconnectedness of all things. This can involve meditation, mindfulness, self-inquiry, and more traditional forms of psychotherapy.
(206) 466-3414 View (206) 466-3414
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Amelia M J Carroll
Counselor, MS, LMHC, CT
Verified Verified
1 Endorsed
Redmond, WA 98052  (Online Only)
Working with people who are going through a life transition is where I thrive in my work. If you are struggling with feeling overwhelmed by the transitions that come with the human issues of life, I may be the right therapist for you. With life comes change, and with change we step into the unknown, which can bring up feelings of anxiety, depression, overwhelm, or just not knowing what step to take next or how to take it. I walk alongside you as you navigate these next steps in your life. You don’t have to do this alone! I provide a safe and supportive environment for your healing and growth to reduce symptoms and build confidence
Working with people who are going through a life transition is where I thrive in my work. If you are struggling with feeling overwhelmed by the transitions that come with the human issues of life, I may be the right therapist for you. With life comes change, and with change we step into the unknown, which can bring up feelings of anxiety, depression, overwhelm, or just not knowing what step to take next or how to take it. I walk alongside you as you navigate these next steps in your life. You don’t have to do this alone! I provide a safe and supportive environment for your healing and growth to reduce symptoms and build confidence
(253) 843-7138 View (253) 843-7138
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Therapy with Teresa
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, MSW, MHP, LICSW
Verified Verified
Redmond, WA 98052
Psychotherapy is a bridge to well being. I am currently accepting new clients between the ages of 18 and 52 for individual, family and couples counseling.
Psychotherapy is a bridge to well being. I am currently accepting new clients between the ages of 18 and 52 for individual, family and couples counseling.
(425) 584-2365 View (425) 584-2365
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Laura Larkin
Marriage & Family Therapist, MS, LMFT
Verified Verified
Redmond, WA 98052
Compassionate, Intuitive, Relevant. Hi, I'm Laura. A Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist (LF 60944497) who is passionate about helping clients foster more satisfying relationships, heal from past trauma, and find practical and meaningful ways to live with more freedom. To me, therapy is a place of deep listening. Of curiosity, attunement and courage. A place of learning and unlearning, of leaning in and letting go. Most clients come to me to work on relational issues, eating and body image concerns, anxiety, grief, depression, identity and difficulty in life transitions.
Compassionate, Intuitive, Relevant. Hi, I'm Laura. A Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist (LF 60944497) who is passionate about helping clients foster more satisfying relationships, heal from past trauma, and find practical and meaningful ways to live with more freedom. To me, therapy is a place of deep listening. Of curiosity, attunement and courage. A place of learning and unlearning, of leaning in and letting go. Most clients come to me to work on relational issues, eating and body image concerns, anxiety, grief, depression, identity and difficulty in life transitions.
(425) 243-1908 View (425) 243-1908
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Spirituality Therapists

What should I expect from therapy that incorporates a focus on spirituality?

Spirituality can mean different things to different individuals, depending on their experiences, beliefs, and life histories. Some individuals focus on strengthening their belief system, while others experience spirituality in secular ways, such as through meditation, yoga, or by spending time in nature. Clients can expect a therapist to help guide and grow their spirituality through any of these techniques, encouraging the individual to cope with the challenges they face and develop strategies to build resilience and purpose to improve their outlook in life.

What are the most common treatments that include spirituality?

There are several treatments that incorporate spirituality. Mindfulness-based cognitive therapy (MBCT) helps a person examine and reframe their negative thoughts and behaviors. Acceptance and commitment therapy (ACT) focuses on emotional acceptance and psychological flexibility. Existential therapy is most often used to address anxiety, depression, grief, loneliness, apathy, despair, questions of identity, and feelings of purposelessness and existential dread. Transpersonal therapy focuses on a client’s spirituality and meaning in life and may incorporate techniques including meditation, visualization, hypnotherapy, dream analysis, and or breathwork.

Can therapy incorporating spirituality help atheistic or agnostic individuals?

Yes. For non-believers, spirituality can offer benefits including a greater sense of connection to others and to the natural world. An interest in spirituality may also spur individuals to pursue mindfulness practices, or to contemplate their purpose in life and how to achieve it.

How effective is spirituality as a therapeutic remedy?

​​Research suggests spirituality is generally beneficial for individuals. It is correlated with better health habits, such as less substance use, and an improved capacity to cope with stress and other mental health challenges. Increased spirituality can lead individuals to become more empathic and less materialistic, as well.