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Monica L Mouer
Licensed Professional Counselor, MS, LCMHCS, CSAT, EMDR
Verified Verified
14 Endorsed
Davidson, NC 28036
I am skilled at working with strained relationships and oppositional clients, as well as Crisis, Trauma and Divorce.
Life is meant to be enjoyed, not endured. If you lack satisfaction in your life, counseling can help. I have a passion to see individuals live to their full potential with peace of mind, purpose in action and joy for everyday living. With over 15 years experience in counseling, education and pastoral ministry combined, I offer an educated perspective on many life issues. I am a trained in many trauma based and relational/family approaches to wholeness. I have extensive experience in working with teens and their families, couples and women's issues especially trauma, anger, emotional regulation, anxiety & depression.
I am skilled at working with strained relationships and oppositional clients, as well as Crisis, Trauma and Divorce.
Life is meant to be enjoyed, not endured. If you lack satisfaction in your life, counseling can help. I have a passion to see individuals live to their full potential with peace of mind, purpose in action and joy for everyday living. With over 15 years experience in counseling, education and pastoral ministry combined, I offer an educated perspective on many life issues. I am a trained in many trauma based and relational/family approaches to wholeness. I have extensive experience in working with teens and their families, couples and women's issues especially trauma, anger, emotional regulation, anxiety & depression.
(704) 869-2018 View (704) 869-2018
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Kelly Edens
Licensed Clinical Mental Health Counselor, LCMHC, CCTP, NCC
Verified Verified
Davidson, NC 28036  (Online Only)
My role is to create a relaxed, non-judgmental environment where you feel comfortable to explore your story together. I have helped people struggling with a range of different mental health diagnosis and life challenges. As a Certified Clinical Trauma Professional all my sessions are trauma informed and offer a warm, client-centered space for you to gain new perspectives about the world and yourself. In sessions with me you can expect to learn coping skills, but also get deeper by working on self-acceptance, autonomy, and overall feeling more empowered and in control.
My role is to create a relaxed, non-judgmental environment where you feel comfortable to explore your story together. I have helped people struggling with a range of different mental health diagnosis and life challenges. As a Certified Clinical Trauma Professional all my sessions are trauma informed and offer a warm, client-centered space for you to gain new perspectives about the world and yourself. In sessions with me you can expect to learn coping skills, but also get deeper by working on self-acceptance, autonomy, and overall feeling more empowered and in control.
(443) 773-2621 View (443) 773-2621
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Ashley Edmond
Licensed Clinical Mental Health Counselor, MS, LCMHC
Verified Verified
2 Endorsed
Davidson, NC 28036  (Online Only)
At some point in our lives, we all face challenges and difficulties. As a counselor, I feel it is my job to help guide and walk with you through these challenges. Through our work, we can navigate life’s obstacles and hardships and move towards accomplishing your therapeutic goals. I believe in illuminating my client’s strengths and utilizing those strengths to conquer anything that stands in their way of wellness, peace, and contentment. Our sessions can be a place to prioritize your needs in a safe, non-judgmental space.
At some point in our lives, we all face challenges and difficulties. As a counselor, I feel it is my job to help guide and walk with you through these challenges. Through our work, we can navigate life’s obstacles and hardships and move towards accomplishing your therapeutic goals. I believe in illuminating my client’s strengths and utilizing those strengths to conquer anything that stands in their way of wellness, peace, and contentment. Our sessions can be a place to prioritize your needs in a safe, non-judgmental space.
(980) 238-3461 View (980) 238-3461
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Kimberly B Krueger
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, MSW, LCSW, DBT-LBC, LISW-CP
Verified Verified
13 Endorsed
Davidson, NC 28036
LIVE HAPPIER! LOVE DEEPER! START NOW! Are you feeling stressed, worried all the time, unhappy, and coping in ways you wish you weren't? Do you feel like you are constantly on an emotional rollercoaster and don't know how to get off? Do you struggle with never feeling good enough? Have you tried other therapists... and they just didn't get it? Do you just want to Be Happy and have a Normal life? YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS ALONE! I hope you will allow me the opportunity to partner with you, turn this around and create a Life you Love. You deserve to be happy and have that great life. And it's totally doable.
LIVE HAPPIER! LOVE DEEPER! START NOW! Are you feeling stressed, worried all the time, unhappy, and coping in ways you wish you weren't? Do you feel like you are constantly on an emotional rollercoaster and don't know how to get off? Do you struggle with never feeling good enough? Have you tried other therapists... and they just didn't get it? Do you just want to Be Happy and have a Normal life? YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS ALONE! I hope you will allow me the opportunity to partner with you, turn this around and create a Life you Love. You deserve to be happy and have that great life. And it's totally doable.
(704) 750-8285 View (704) 750-8285
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Jeannine Bodner
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, MSW, LCSW
Verified Verified
Davidson, NC 28036
I respect the courage that it takes to seek help when life's challenges become overwhelming. It is often a very painful place that can be difficult to share with another person. I am very sensitive to the fact that the first step can be the most difficult. I use a collaborative, compassionate approach with my clients. I rely on my knowledge and experience coupled with theoretical approaches to customize a plan for the individual situation. The goal is to work toward holistic balance.
I respect the courage that it takes to seek help when life's challenges become overwhelming. It is often a very painful place that can be difficult to share with another person. I am very sensitive to the fact that the first step can be the most difficult. I use a collaborative, compassionate approach with my clients. I rely on my knowledge and experience coupled with theoretical approaches to customize a plan for the individual situation. The goal is to work toward holistic balance.
(704) 851-8218 View (704) 851-8218
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Judy Scheel, Ph.D., LCSW, CEDS
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, PhD, LCSW, CEDS
Verified Verified
Davidson, NC 28035
With years of training & personal analysis, I am solidly qualified to treat individuals/couples/families for mental health issues like anxiety & depression & interpersonal issues. I am certified as an EATING DISORDER expert (CEDS) & provide treatment for SEXUAL ISSUES with training from NYU Langone Medical. I am an Associate Member of SSTAR (Society for Sex Therapy & Research.) My approaches are fueled by many years of training in psychological theories. I am licensed in NC, NY & CA with offices in Charlotte, NC, New York, NY & offer video sessions for CA residents. I write two Blogs for psychologytoday.com on Sex & Eating Issues
With years of training & personal analysis, I am solidly qualified to treat individuals/couples/families for mental health issues like anxiety & depression & interpersonal issues. I am certified as an EATING DISORDER expert (CEDS) & provide treatment for SEXUAL ISSUES with training from NYU Langone Medical. I am an Associate Member of SSTAR (Society for Sex Therapy & Research.) My approaches are fueled by many years of training in psychological theories. I am licensed in NC, NY & CA with offices in Charlotte, NC, New York, NY & offer video sessions for CA residents. I write two Blogs for psychologytoday.com on Sex & Eating Issues
(914) 352-5131 View (914) 352-5131
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Shannon Brewer
Psychological Associate, MA, LPA
Verified Verified
3 Endorsed
Davidson, NC 28036
I have worked in a variety of settings: prison, inpatient, day treatment, outpatient and private practice. These experiences have made me a well rounded clinician. I offer my clients a safe place to explore often painful issues in a non-judgemental atmosphere. My ideal client is one who has specific goals in therapy and is willing to address them through work in session and exercises they can work on outside of session.
I have worked in a variety of settings: prison, inpatient, day treatment, outpatient and private practice. These experiences have made me a well rounded clinician. I offer my clients a safe place to explore often painful issues in a non-judgemental atmosphere. My ideal client is one who has specific goals in therapy and is willing to address them through work in session and exercises they can work on outside of session.
(704) 209-7014 View (704) 209-7014
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R J Wolf Counseling Services
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, MSW, LCSW
Verified Verified
Davidson, NC 28036
Life is full of twists and turns, often unexpected and challenging to even the most seasoned navigator. Individual, couple, and family therapy can provide relief to those seeking support by regrouping, learning coping skills and gaining helpful insight to promote empowered change. It is my honor to help individuals, couples, and families who are seeking help to either heal, learn new ways to manage their lives or adjust to new challenges. I have extensive experience in the fields of anxiety/depression/PTSD, adjustment, illness, grief, sudden loss, marriage, post-partum depression, blended family, parenting, and addiction. My practice encompasses adolescents to the young at heart.
Life is full of twists and turns, often unexpected and challenging to even the most seasoned navigator. Individual, couple, and family therapy can provide relief to those seeking support by regrouping, learning coping skills and gaining helpful insight to promote empowered change. It is my honor to help individuals, couples, and families who are seeking help to either heal, learn new ways to manage their lives or adjust to new challenges. I have extensive experience in the fields of anxiety/depression/PTSD, adjustment, illness, grief, sudden loss, marriage, post-partum depression, blended family, parenting, and addiction. My practice encompasses adolescents to the young at heart.
(704) 610-2455 View (704) 610-2455
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Dr. Nanci Stafford
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, BSW, MSW, LCSW, LISW-CP, Ed D
Verified Verified
3 Endorsed
Davidson, NC 28036
TY for taking the time to consider me as your therapist and welcome to your safe space. I work with individuals who have been in domestic partnerships where one exhibits emotionally abusive behaviors: i.e. manip., blame, gaslighting, plays the victim AND persecutor, obligates, fear (real or imagined), and guilt etc.; a unique situation that requires a professional's help. I invite you to peruse my website and ask me any questions you might have. I also work with those experiencing anxiety, depression, family problems, and adjusting to life circumstances. Two + therapists who work here as well. Let's get you feeling better!
TY for taking the time to consider me as your therapist and welcome to your safe space. I work with individuals who have been in domestic partnerships where one exhibits emotionally abusive behaviors: i.e. manip., blame, gaslighting, plays the victim AND persecutor, obligates, fear (real or imagined), and guilt etc.; a unique situation that requires a professional's help. I invite you to peruse my website and ask me any questions you might have. I also work with those experiencing anxiety, depression, family problems, and adjusting to life circumstances. Two + therapists who work here as well. Let's get you feeling better!
(980) 292-8291 View (980) 292-8291

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Nikki Mahmutovic
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Madison Briggs
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Verified Verified
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Divorce Therapists

How does therapy for people affected by a divorce work?

Individuals may feel a number of emotions following a divorce, such as shock, guilt, grief, anger, and fear. Therapists offer a non-judgmental space for individuals to talk about what they’ve experienced and process their emotions. Therapists will help clients develop coping strategies. They can also help a client rebuild their sense of self and self-worth and talk about what a happier future might look like.

What’s the most common type of therapy following a divorce?

There are several types of therapy that may be useful for divorce, including cognitive behavioral, acceptance and commitment, solution-focused brief, and mindfulness-based therapies. Many therapy types are talk-therapy based, which is typically the most popular option for individuals dealing with divorce. Cognitive behavioral therapy is a widely-used talk therapy, however, there’s no specific therapy type that’s designed to help people with divorce, and different types will work depending on the person.

When should an individual seek help due to a divorce?

When the feelings of a divorced individual, or an individual going through the process of divorce, begin to disrupt healthy daily functioning, it may be a good time to look into therapy. If a person finds that they are not performing at work due to problems with anxiety or motivation, if they’re no longer seeing friends due to feelings of shame, or if they’re not properly taking care of themselves as a result of depression, speaking to a professional could help.

How do you encourage someone to go to therapy due to a divorce?

It’s helpful to express concern and love for the individual while framing therapy as a tool for improving their life. Sharing how the individual appears to be suffering, and what effects it has on them or on their children, should be done with compassion and empathy. It may be useful to devise a game plan—breaking the process down into parts, such as finding a therapist, making appointments, and looking into insurance coverage.