Jenna Daniel
Licensed Professional Counselor, LPC Verified
Verified
Phoenix, AZ 85028
I am a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), who earned my Master’s of Arts in Clinical Mental Health counseling from Northern Arizona University. I have a passion for working with adolescents and adults who have OCD, anxiety, depression, and trauma. I use an integrated approach and I'm trained in CBT, DBT, ACT, ERP, EMDR and TF-CBT.
Obsessive-Compulsive (OCD)
(520) 827-3088
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Phoenix, AZ 85028
Obsessive-Compulsive (OCD)
I am a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), who earned my Master’s of Arts in Clinical Mental Health counseling from Northern Arizona University. I have a passion for working with adolescents and adults who have OCD, anxiety, depression, and trauma. I use an integrated approach and I'm trained in CBT, DBT, ACT, ERP, EMDR and TF-CBT.
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Misty Andersen-Pitcher
Licensed Professional Counselor, MSc, LPC Verified
Verified
Phoenix, AZ 85029
I bring compassion and acceptance to every session. I offer unique perspective, a little humor to lighten your day, and a variety of therapeutic approaches to tailor your healing to your goals.
Obsessive-Compulsive (OCD)
(623) 292-4701
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Phoenix, AZ 85029
Obsessive-Compulsive (OCD)
I bring compassion and acceptance to every session. I offer unique perspective, a little humor to lighten your day, and a variety of therapeutic approaches to tailor your healing to your goals.
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Kristin Kohn
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, MSW , LCSW Verified
Verified
Phoenix, AZ 85028
Feeling worried much of the time, having panic attacks, and feeling so overwhelmed by your thoughts can be exhausting. My clients often find themselves in this loop of having debilitating thoughts, needing to get rid of them, keeping track of what triggers anxiety so they can avoid it, and yet the worry seems to grow even stronger. And eventually, they are beyond frustrated that these worries seem to be taking over their life. Sometimes, the worries are about contamination or fear of harming a loved one, needing to be perfect, or being judged and rejected. Whatever it is, the fears interfere with what's most important to them.
Obsessive-Compulsive (OCD)
(855) 976-3597
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Phoenix, AZ 85028
Obsessive-Compulsive (OCD)
Feeling worried much of the time, having panic attacks, and feeling so overwhelmed by your thoughts can be exhausting. My clients often find themselves in this loop of having debilitating thoughts, needing to get rid of them, keeping track of what triggers anxiety so they can avoid it, and yet the worry seems to grow even stronger. And eventually, they are beyond frustrated that these worries seem to be taking over their life. Sometimes, the worries are about contamination or fear of harming a loved one, needing to be perfect, or being judged and rejected. Whatever it is, the fears interfere with what's most important to them.
NOCD- Therapists for OCD
Psychologist, PhD Verified
Verified
Phoenix, AZ 85016
Imagine what life would be like if you weren't bothered by OCD. NOCD is here to help you regain peace of mind. NOCD is a digital health company that’s focused on effectively treating people with Obsessive Compulsive Disorder. Inside the NOCD mobile app, you can work with one of our licensed mental health therapists with specialty training in OCD. When your therapist isn’t available, access support communities and therapeutic tools - so that you are never alone. NOCD’s protocol has been proven to reduce OCD severity by 40% in less than 10 weeks.
Obsessive-Compulsive (OCD)
(872) 221-6421
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Phoenix, AZ 85016
Obsessive-Compulsive (OCD)
Imagine what life would be like if you weren't bothered by OCD. NOCD is here to help you regain peace of mind. NOCD is a digital health company that’s focused on effectively treating people with Obsessive Compulsive Disorder. Inside the NOCD mobile app, you can work with one of our licensed mental health therapists with specialty training in OCD. When your therapist isn’t available, access support communities and therapeutic tools - so that you are never alone. NOCD’s protocol has been proven to reduce OCD severity by 40% in less than 10 weeks.
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Roberta Jane Zatkowsky
Licensed Professional Counselor, LPC, MSc, MS, NCC Verified
Verified
Office is near:
Phoenix, AZ 85016
I treat OCD, Trichotillomania (hair-pulling), & Dermatillomania (skin-picking) using Exposure Response Prevention, ComB, HRT, & ACT. Treat past and present TRAUMA using EMDR. I have experience in individual and group therapy with children, adolescents, adults, couples, & families suffering from depression, anxiety, & bipolar disorder. I treat children and adolescents' behavioral problems such as aggression, anger, rebellion, poor academic performance, criminal problems, and sexual abuse. I have worked with adults suffering from sexual compulsivity and addiction, and educate adults on parenting skills and communication skills. I work with couples going through infertility, adoption, and relationship issues.
Obsessive-Compulsive (OCD)
(480) 405-7596
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Office is near:
Phoenix, AZ 85016
Obsessive-Compulsive (OCD)
I treat OCD, Trichotillomania (hair-pulling), & Dermatillomania (skin-picking) using Exposure Response Prevention, ComB, HRT, & ACT. Treat past and present TRAUMA using EMDR. I have experience in individual and group therapy with children, adolescents, adults, couples, & families suffering from depression, anxiety, & bipolar disorder. I treat children and adolescents' behavioral problems such as aggression, anger, rebellion, poor academic performance, criminal problems, and sexual abuse. I have worked with adults suffering from sexual compulsivity and addiction, and educate adults on parenting skills and communication skills. I work with couples going through infertility, adoption, and relationship issues.
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Mark Treegoob
Psychologist, PhD Verified
Verified
Office is near:
Phoenix, AZ 85061
I work with children 11 or over through adolescence, and adults of all ages.
Obsessive-Compulsive (OCD)
(480) 409-2321
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Office is near:
Phoenix, AZ 85061
Obsessive-Compulsive (OCD)
I work with children 11 or over through adolescence, and adults of all ages.
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Molly Mahoney
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, MSW, LCSW Verified
Verified
Office is near:
Phoenix, AZ 85020
Making the decision to begin therapy is not an easy one, but the therapeutic process can help you to understand the reason for your symptoms and behaviors, and assist you in making desired changes. My perspective is strength based and together we can work to identify obstacles, which may be getting in the way of achieving your goals. My approach is warm, respectful and empathetic. I am committed to best practices and am trained in EMDR and ERP. Incorporating various treatment modalities, I offer individual therapy to children, adolescents and adults, and am trained in couples and family therapy.
Obsessive-Compulsive (OCD)
(480) 800-8121
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Office is near:
Phoenix, AZ 85020
Obsessive-Compulsive (OCD)
Making the decision to begin therapy is not an easy one, but the therapeutic process can help you to understand the reason for your symptoms and behaviors, and assist you in making desired changes. My perspective is strength based and together we can work to identify obstacles, which may be getting in the way of achieving your goals. My approach is warm, respectful and empathetic. I am committed to best practices and am trained in EMDR and ERP. Incorporating various treatment modalities, I offer individual therapy to children, adolescents and adults, and am trained in couples and family therapy.
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Michael Zatkowsky
Psychologist, PsyD Verified
Verified
Office is near:
Phoenix, AZ 85032
1st Psychologist in Arizona to treat OCD as a specialty starting 25 years ago, and 1st to attend all available Advanced training to CORRECTLY treat OCD using ERP (Exposure Response Prevention). National Panel of Experts member at the International OCD Annual conference. Treat all OCD Spectrum Disorders, including Body-Focused Repetitive Behaviors (BFRBs) such as Trichotillomania (hair pulling), Dermatillomania (skin-picking), Nail-biting, Cuticle-pulling; Tics; Tourettes Syndrome; Hoarding; Body Dysmorphic Disorder (BDD); Anxiety Disorders; and Depression. Patients range in age from 3 to 93 years old. Our goal at the OCD Spectrum Clinic is to make us obsolete.
Obsessive-Compulsive (OCD)
(480) 525-8353
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Office is near:
Phoenix, AZ 85032
Obsessive-Compulsive (OCD)
1st Psychologist in Arizona to treat OCD as a specialty starting 25 years ago, and 1st to attend all available Advanced training to CORRECTLY treat OCD using ERP (Exposure Response Prevention). National Panel of Experts member at the International OCD Annual conference. Treat all OCD Spectrum Disorders, including Body-Focused Repetitive Behaviors (BFRBs) such as Trichotillomania (hair pulling), Dermatillomania (skin-picking), Nail-biting, Cuticle-pulling; Tics; Tourettes Syndrome; Hoarding; Body Dysmorphic Disorder (BDD); Anxiety Disorders; and Depression. Patients range in age from 3 to 93 years old. Our goal at the OCD Spectrum Clinic is to make us obsolete.
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Samuel S Lample
Licensed Professional Counselor, MA, LPC, CEDS Verified
Verified
Phoenix, AZ 85028
I transitioned to full time private practice on July 1, 2014. After 10 years working in an intensive treatment center and 3 years as Clinical Director at Doorways, focusing on the treatment of Eating Disorders, it was time to broaden the scope of my practice. Although I will continue to treat older adolescents and Eating Disorders on a case by case basis, I am increasing my focus on Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder and related Anxiety Disorders, Trauma and Couples & Marital Therapy. My therapeutic style is relational, based on a conversation between equals. I genuinely care about the wellbeing of my clients.
Obsessive-Compulsive (OCD)
(602) 734-5815
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Phoenix, AZ 85028
Obsessive-Compulsive (OCD)
I transitioned to full time private practice on July 1, 2014. After 10 years working in an intensive treatment center and 3 years as Clinical Director at Doorways, focusing on the treatment of Eating Disorders, it was time to broaden the scope of my practice. Although I will continue to treat older adolescents and Eating Disorders on a case by case basis, I am increasing my focus on Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder and related Anxiety Disorders, Trauma and Couples & Marital Therapy. My therapeutic style is relational, based on a conversation between equals. I genuinely care about the wellbeing of my clients.
Colter Bloxom
Licensed Professional Counselor, MA, LPC Verified
Verified
Phoenix, AZ 85028
*I am currently not taking new clients until the beginning of 2021.* I believe that we all have something that we keep in the dark, believing that if people were to uncover the truth, surely it would destroy us. However, it's never that thing that we keep in the dark, it is the fact that we keep it in the dark. I base my practice around creating a safe space for you to bring out whatever has been causing you anxiety, stress, and pain in your life. I am passionate about debunking the stigma previously associated with mental health and firmly believe that just because you are seeking out counseling, does not mean that you are broken.
Obsessive-Compulsive (OCD)
(480) 725-0812
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Phoenix, AZ 85028
Obsessive-Compulsive (OCD)
*I am currently not taking new clients until the beginning of 2021.* I believe that we all have something that we keep in the dark, believing that if people were to uncover the truth, surely it would destroy us. However, it's never that thing that we keep in the dark, it is the fact that we keep it in the dark. I base my practice around creating a safe space for you to bring out whatever has been causing you anxiety, stress, and pain in your life. I am passionate about debunking the stigma previously associated with mental health and firmly believe that just because you are seeking out counseling, does not mean that you are broken.
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Nikki Schlundt
Licensed Professional Counselor, MA, LPC Verified
Verified
Phoenix, AZ 85028
I believe that this life is meant to be lived fully and freely in every moment. It is a simple concept, but sometimes so difficult to experience as our thoughts keep us held in the past or our fears spiral us into the future. You may feel completely trapped in a cycle of unhealthy thoughts and behaviors and sense you're losing control. Sometimes we struggle getting lost in heartache or pain and forget what life can look like on the other side. I have a genuine passion for coming alongside each person to help rediscover a full and free life with all of its wonders and difficulties.
Obsessive-Compulsive (OCD)
(602) 638-1944
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Phoenix, AZ 85028
Obsessive-Compulsive (OCD)
I believe that this life is meant to be lived fully and freely in every moment. It is a simple concept, but sometimes so difficult to experience as our thoughts keep us held in the past or our fears spiral us into the future. You may feel completely trapped in a cycle of unhealthy thoughts and behaviors and sense you're losing control. Sometimes we struggle getting lost in heartache or pain and forget what life can look like on the other side. I have a genuine passion for coming alongside each person to help rediscover a full and free life with all of its wonders and difficulties.
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Alchemy Counseling - Scott Hooyman
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, MSW, LCSW Verified
Verified
Phoenix, AZ 85023
Is your anxiety or panic out of control? You can have the peace and calm you've been looking for! Are you feeling overwhelmed and depressed? You can experience the joy you've always wanted! Is your OCD keeping you from living a full life? You can be free of the intrusive thoughts and compulsive behaviors and get your life back! Are you still troubled by your past? You can learn to let it go, be more present, and move forward with your life! Taking that first step of asking for help can be difficult. Call now (602) 842-4388.
Obsessive-Compulsive (OCD)
(602) 975-3299
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Phoenix, AZ 85023
Obsessive-Compulsive (OCD)
Is your anxiety or panic out of control? You can have the peace and calm you've been looking for! Are you feeling overwhelmed and depressed? You can experience the joy you've always wanted! Is your OCD keeping you from living a full life? You can be free of the intrusive thoughts and compulsive behaviors and get your life back! Are you still troubled by your past? You can learn to let it go, be more present, and move forward with your life! Taking that first step of asking for help can be difficult. Call now (602) 842-4388.
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Rich Killen
Licensed Professional Counselor, MA, LPC, NCC Verified
Verified
Office is near:
Phoenix, AZ 85028
I have a passion for helping people reach their goals whether it is personal, relational, occupational or any other domain in your life. I became a therapist because I enjoy helping people and I enjoy understanding what makes each person unique. It is through this understanding that I am able to get to the root of the problem and help walk alongside my clients through their journey of healing.
Obsessive-Compulsive (OCD)
(480) 535-0204
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Office is near:
Phoenix, AZ 85028
Obsessive-Compulsive (OCD)
I have a passion for helping people reach their goals whether it is personal, relational, occupational or any other domain in your life. I became a therapist because I enjoy helping people and I enjoy understanding what makes each person unique. It is through this understanding that I am able to get to the root of the problem and help walk alongside my clients through their journey of healing.
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David Gilbreath Barton
Counselor, PhD, LMHC Verified
Verified
Office is near:
Phoenix, AZ 85001
People often contact me because they are suffering from loss, depression, anxiety, trauma, or crises of meaning. Something is holding them back. Something keeps them stuck in patterns and habits they no longer want or need, but they don't know how to change. Sometimes they don't even know what's wrong, but they understand something is missing. If you have tried therapy before without the results you are looking for, it might be that you are the type of personality who needs a deeper and more symbolic approach that will change the way you see and see the ways to change.
Obsessive-Compulsive (OCD)
(505) 295-2689
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Office is near:
Phoenix, AZ 85001
Obsessive-Compulsive (OCD)
People often contact me because they are suffering from loss, depression, anxiety, trauma, or crises of meaning. Something is holding them back. Something keeps them stuck in patterns and habits they no longer want or need, but they don't know how to change. Sometimes they don't even know what's wrong, but they understand something is missing. If you have tried therapy before without the results you are looking for, it might be that you are the type of personality who needs a deeper and more symbolic approach that will change the way you see and see the ways to change.
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Bradley Boivin
Psychologist, PsyD Verified
Verified
Office is near:
Phoenix, AZ 85024
We all face difficult experiences in life that seem unmanageable. Maybe you're experiencing difficulty in your relationship with your spouse, children or significant other. Maybe you have lost someone close to you or have been diagnosed with a chronic illness. Maybe you're having a difficult time adjusting to a new job or recent retirement. Maybe you're struggling with addiction or experiencing financial stress. Maybe you're anxious or depressed and find yourself avoiding doing things you used to enjoy. Maybe you're not sure what you're experiencing but feel as though, "Something just isn't right."
Obsessive-Compulsive (OCD)
(602) 492-9468
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Office is near:
Phoenix, AZ 85024
Obsessive-Compulsive (OCD)
We all face difficult experiences in life that seem unmanageable. Maybe you're experiencing difficulty in your relationship with your spouse, children or significant other. Maybe you have lost someone close to you or have been diagnosed with a chronic illness. Maybe you're having a difficult time adjusting to a new job or recent retirement. Maybe you're struggling with addiction or experiencing financial stress. Maybe you're anxious or depressed and find yourself avoiding doing things you used to enjoy. Maybe you're not sure what you're experiencing but feel as though, "Something just isn't right."
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JoAnn Richi, MC, LPC
Licensed Professional Counselor, MC, LPC Verified
Verified
Phoenix, AZ 85048
"If you want to talk to someone who will really listen to you, quickly grasp your situation, and know exactly what to do about it, please contact me. I welcome every client in a completely non-judgmental manner and I would like to work with you." - JoAnn Richi, MC, LPC
Obsessive-Compulsive (OCD)
(480) 961-2365
Verified

Phoenix, AZ 85048
Obsessive-Compulsive (OCD)
"If you want to talk to someone who will really listen to you, quickly grasp your situation, and know exactly what to do about it, please contact me. I welcome every client in a completely non-judgmental manner and I would like to work with you." - JoAnn Richi, MC, LPC
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Natasha Daniels
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, LCSW Verified
Verified
Phoenix, AZ 85085
[MY PRACTICE IS FULL] I have devoted my practice and career to helping kids of all ages overcome all forms of anxiety and OCD. I use evidence-based Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT) and Exposure Response Prevention (ERP) to help kids develop life-long skills to crush their anxiety and/or OCD. I believe in engaging the parents throughout the process as we work together as a team, building skills within the child, as well as in the home environment. I meet with parents alone the first session to discuss background and treatment goals. I meet with parents alone periodically to discuss progress and skills.
Obsessive-Compulsive (OCD)
(480) 405-4593
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Phoenix, AZ 85085
Obsessive-Compulsive (OCD)
[MY PRACTICE IS FULL] I have devoted my practice and career to helping kids of all ages overcome all forms of anxiety and OCD. I use evidence-based Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT) and Exposure Response Prevention (ERP) to help kids develop life-long skills to crush their anxiety and/or OCD. I believe in engaging the parents throughout the process as we work together as a team, building skills within the child, as well as in the home environment. I meet with parents alone the first session to discuss background and treatment goals. I meet with parents alone periodically to discuss progress and skills.
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Alicia Goodman
Psychologist, PhD, NCSP Verified
Verified
Phoenix, AZ 85028
My ideal clients for therapy are 7-20 yrs of age and their parents. I specialize in treating Selective Mutism ( using PCIT-SM), OCD ( with ERP), Tourette’s/tics ( using C-BIT), and other anxIety disorders ( using CBT, DBT, and EMDR) including specific phobias, separation anxiety, generalized anxiety, and social anxiety. In addition, I conduct psychoeducational evaluations, gifted, twice exceptional, ADHD, and learning disorder evaluations. I also help parents who may be struggling with behavioral challenges at home and who are wanting parent coaching or tools to help them be more effective with their children.
Obsessive-Compulsive (OCD)
(480) 685-5806
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Phoenix, AZ 85028
Obsessive-Compulsive (OCD)
My ideal clients for therapy are 7-20 yrs of age and their parents. I specialize in treating Selective Mutism ( using PCIT-SM), OCD ( with ERP), Tourette’s/tics ( using C-BIT), and other anxIety disorders ( using CBT, DBT, and EMDR) including specific phobias, separation anxiety, generalized anxiety, and social anxiety. In addition, I conduct psychoeducational evaluations, gifted, twice exceptional, ADHD, and learning disorder evaluations. I also help parents who may be struggling with behavioral challenges at home and who are wanting parent coaching or tools to help them be more effective with their children.
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Amanda Kaplan
Psychologist, PsyD Verified
Verified
Office is near:
Phoenix, AZ 85050
OPENING MARCH 15, 2021 - Perspective Therapy, LLC. Dr. Kaplan specializes in treating adolescents and adults for eating disorders, anxiety and obsessive compulsive disorder (OCD). She has experience working with athletes experiencing anxiety and disordered eating. Dr. Kaplan also assists individuals in working through past traumatic events and other co-occurring mental health conditions. Dr. Kaplan also has the capacity to offer telehealth services to individuals and families in Arizona.
Obsessive-Compulsive (OCD)
(623) 257-5931
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Office is near:
Phoenix, AZ 85050
Obsessive-Compulsive (OCD)
OPENING MARCH 15, 2021 - Perspective Therapy, LLC. Dr. Kaplan specializes in treating adolescents and adults for eating disorders, anxiety and obsessive compulsive disorder (OCD). She has experience working with athletes experiencing anxiety and disordered eating. Dr. Kaplan also assists individuals in working through past traumatic events and other co-occurring mental health conditions. Dr. Kaplan also has the capacity to offer telehealth services to individuals and families in Arizona.
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Ericka J Valdez
Licensed Professional Counselor, MS, LPC Verified
Verified
Phoenix, AZ 85015
Finding a therapist is like dating, not everyone who takes you out to dinner will be “the one”. The number one factor that assist people in reaching their full potential in therapy, is the RELATIONSHIP between the Client and therapist. Ericka has a reputation of quickly establishing trust and rapport with Clients, and individuals from all walks of life. Expect a caring and energetic creative therapist, who utilizes science and humor to help you, help yourself! My ideal Clients are children, adolescents and adults ages 4-50 who may be full of energy, creativity, loudness, craziness, sadness, and even madness.
Obsessive-Compulsive (OCD)
(602) 780-0331
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Phoenix, AZ 85015
Obsessive-Compulsive (OCD)
Finding a therapist is like dating, not everyone who takes you out to dinner will be “the one”. The number one factor that assist people in reaching their full potential in therapy, is the RELATIONSHIP between the Client and therapist. Ericka has a reputation of quickly establishing trust and rapport with Clients, and individuals from all walks of life. Expect a caring and energetic creative therapist, who utilizes science and humor to help you, help yourself! My ideal Clients are children, adolescents and adults ages 4-50 who may be full of energy, creativity, loudness, craziness, sadness, and even madness.

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Obsessive-Compulsive (OCD) (Trichotillomania (TTM), Hair Pulling, Skin Picking) Therapists
Obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD) is an anxiety disorder in which people have unwanted and repeated thoughts, feelings, ideas, sensations (obsessions), or behaviors that make them feel driven to do something (compulsions). It affects children, kids, teens and adults. Often the person carries out the behaviors to get rid of the obsessive thoughts, but this only provides temporary relief. Not performing the obsessive rituals can cause great anxiety. A person's level of OCD can be anywhere from mild to severe, but if severe and left untreated, it can destroy a person's capacity to function at work, at school or even to lead a comfortable existence in the home.

If you're looking for help with OCD therapy in Phoenix or for a Phoenix OCD therapist ,these professionals provide OCD treatment and obsessive compulsive disorder treatment. They include OCD therapists, OCD psychologists, OCD psychotherapists and OCD counselors in Phoenix. They can help with Phoenix OCD counseling, OCD symptoms, OCD children, obsessive compulsive disorder, and OCPD.

Hair-pulling (trichotillomania) and skin picking (dematillomania), collectively referred to as Body Focused Repetitive Behaviors, are classified as OCD-related disorders. Treatment for trichotillomiania in Phoenix or TTM or hair pulling in Phoenix or skin picking can be found from these therapists.

How can I tell if a therapist is right for me?
Therapists in Phoenix are able to work with a wide range of issues and communities, including the BIPOC community in Phoenix. They offer in person sessions as well as Teletherapy in Phoenix

For example, if you're seeking a marriage counselor in Phoenix you'll find that most therapists are trained in marriage counseling or couples counseling in Phoenix and couples therapy. And they welcome families for family counseling in Phoenix or family therapy in Phoenix.