Therapists in Kenosha County, WI

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Shalini Varma M. D. Psychiatry
MD, BD Cert, NBPAS, ABPN
Verified Verified
Kenosha, WI 53142
ACCEPTING PEOPLE OF ALL AGES WITHIN ONE WEEK! Depression, Anxiety, ADHD, Autism, School and Work Accommodations, Difficulty sleeping, Addictions & Medication. Evening appointments are available. Care provided by me, a Physician, a Double Board Certified MD Psychiatrist may be a more effective approach for you. I am structured and organized with treatment. I also provide neuropsychological and psychological TESTING. I am available for urgent needs. Work together to decrease struggling. US born and educated at Rutgers Medical School & completed Psychiatry Residency at Advocate Lutheran General Hospital.
ACCEPTING PEOPLE OF ALL AGES WITHIN ONE WEEK! Depression, Anxiety, ADHD, Autism, School and Work Accommodations, Difficulty sleeping, Addictions & Medication. Evening appointments are available. Care provided by me, a Physician, a Double Board Certified MD Psychiatrist may be a more effective approach for you. I am structured and organized with treatment. I also provide neuropsychological and psychological TESTING. I am available for urgent needs. Work together to decrease struggling. US born and educated at Rutgers Medical School & completed Psychiatry Residency at Advocate Lutheran General Hospital.
(847) 393-4392 View (847) 393-4392

Online Therapists

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Cedar Lake Counseling
Verified Verified
Mequon, WI 53092
Additional clinical focus areas include men's and women's issues, co-dependency, anger, panic disorder, marriage and family issues, life transitions, career, addictions (substances, pornography, sex, gambling), personality issues, divorce recovery, grief/loss, ADHD, school and social adjustment and more.
FREE PHONE CONSULTATIONS WITH DR. BLOEMER* will help establish your appointment with a best-fit therapist among our twelve therapists, who possess up to 30 years of experience. Specializations include Advanced Therapies (Brain-based treatment) for complex trauma, anxiety, depression, relationship issues, emotional pain, addictions and more. As symptom relief is achieved as quickly as possible, we assist in helping you improve your significant relationships and support your efforts toward achieving holistic awareness, life balance, and meaningful, personal growth.
Additional clinical focus areas include men's and women's issues, co-dependency, anger, panic disorder, marriage and family issues, life transitions, career, addictions (substances, pornography, sex, gambling), personality issues, divorce recovery, grief/loss, ADHD, school and social adjustment and more.
FREE PHONE CONSULTATIONS WITH DR. BLOEMER* will help establish your appointment with a best-fit therapist among our twelve therapists, who possess up to 30 years of experience. Specializations include Advanced Therapies (Brain-based treatment) for complex trauma, anxiety, depression, relationship issues, emotional pain, addictions and more. As symptom relief is achieved as quickly as possible, we assist in helping you improve your significant relationships and support your efforts toward achieving holistic awareness, life balance, and meaningful, personal growth.
(262) 947-4378 View (262) 947-4378
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Lee Hildebrand
Psychologist, PhD
Verified Verified
Mequon, WI 53092
Free phone consultations. I offer highly effective marriage and couples therapy, as well as individual therapy for substance abuse, sexual/internet addiction, depression, anxiety, life transitions, divorce, health/sports psychology, trauma (childhood, sexual, military), spiritual and other concerns. I also treat adolescents facing a wide variety of issues. My 18+ years of clinical experience include: VA Medical Center, Battle Creek, MI; Froedert Hospital, The Medical College of Wisconsin; VA Medical Center, Milwaukee; Marquette University Counseling Center; The Counseling Center of Milwaukee; St. Charles Youth and Family Agency.
Free phone consultations. I offer highly effective marriage and couples therapy, as well as individual therapy for substance abuse, sexual/internet addiction, depression, anxiety, life transitions, divorce, health/sports psychology, trauma (childhood, sexual, military), spiritual and other concerns. I also treat adolescents facing a wide variety of issues. My 18+ years of clinical experience include: VA Medical Center, Battle Creek, MI; Froedert Hospital, The Medical College of Wisconsin; VA Medical Center, Milwaukee; Marquette University Counseling Center; The Counseling Center of Milwaukee; St. Charles Youth and Family Agency.
(414) 446-3109 View (414) 446-3109
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Dr. Joanne L. Barian Psy.D.HP. (Dr. Jo)
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, PsyDHP, MSW, LCSW, NCCAP, AAMFT
Verified Verified
Milwaukee, WI 53227  (Online Only)
I am currently practicing as an MSW, LCSW, a Licensed Clinical Social Worker, w/ a specialization in Marriage & Family Therapy, & a sub-specialty in substance abuse issues & addiction.
Surrender to what is, let go of what was, have faith in what will be. Creating profound Peace, Love, Deep Fulfillment, & Spiritual Transformation and tapping into one's natural born potential. It Is Never Too Late To Be What You Were Meant To Become. BE – The best version of your Highest Self DO – The next “right thing” in becoming your “Authentic Self." HAVE – A new found freedom within yourself, to create the peace, love, happiness & fulfillment.
I am currently practicing as an MSW, LCSW, a Licensed Clinical Social Worker, w/ a specialization in Marriage & Family Therapy, & a sub-specialty in substance abuse issues & addiction.
Surrender to what is, let go of what was, have faith in what will be. Creating profound Peace, Love, Deep Fulfillment, & Spiritual Transformation and tapping into one's natural born potential. It Is Never Too Late To Be What You Were Meant To Become. BE – The best version of your Highest Self DO – The next “right thing” in becoming your “Authentic Self." HAVE – A new found freedom within yourself, to create the peace, love, happiness & fulfillment.
(414) 501-2759 View (414) 501-2759
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Mehwish Aqueel
Licensed Professional Counselor, NCC, LPC, MSc
Verified Verified
1 Endorsed
Milwaukee, WI 53221
I have indepth experience and training in DBT Dialectical Behavior Therapy for treatment of Depression, Anxiety, Mood Disorder, ADHD, PTSD, Trauma, Grief, Self-esteem, Stress, Anger-Management, Marriage Counseling, Parenting, Interpersonal Skills Development & Addiction.
“A JOURNEY OF A THOUSAND MILES BEGINS WITH A SINGLE STEP” (Tao Te Ching) I am a National Board Certified Counselor specialized in Evidence Based Treatment. My treatment philosophy is to help Adolescents, Adults and families manage stressful life situations, relational stressors, embrace change, acceptance and meet challenging goals.
I have indepth experience and training in DBT Dialectical Behavior Therapy for treatment of Depression, Anxiety, Mood Disorder, ADHD, PTSD, Trauma, Grief, Self-esteem, Stress, Anger-Management, Marriage Counseling, Parenting, Interpersonal Skills Development & Addiction.
“A JOURNEY OF A THOUSAND MILES BEGINS WITH A SINGLE STEP” (Tao Te Ching) I am a National Board Certified Counselor specialized in Evidence Based Treatment. My treatment philosophy is to help Adolescents, Adults and families manage stressful life situations, relational stressors, embrace change, acceptance and meet challenging goals.
(414) 246-5601 View (414) 246-5601
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Daniel J Cruger
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, LCSW, CSAC, CSI-T
Verified Verified
Sun Prairie, WI 53590
Waitlist for new clients
I am experienced in trauma treatment, anxiety, depression, substance use, using cognitive behavioral therapy, motivational interviewing, EMDR, and polyvagal therapies. I believe in a practical application of evidenced based therapies, displaying compassion for all of the struggles in life.
I am experienced in trauma treatment, anxiety, depression, substance use, using cognitive behavioral therapy, motivational interviewing, EMDR, and polyvagal therapies. I believe in a practical application of evidenced based therapies, displaying compassion for all of the struggles in life.
(608) 546-9377 View (608) 546-9377
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Diane Meade
Licensed Professional Counselor, MS, LPC, SAC-IT
Verified Verified
1 Endorsed
Hartland, WI 53029
Welcome to my counseling page! I am a calm, honest, empathetic, and laid-back professional who is committed to creating a safe and supportive environment for my clients. If you're feeling overwhelmed, anxious, are experiencing depression, or if you're struggling with a major life transition, I'm here for you. Life's unexpected challenges can leave us feeling overwhelmed, but with the right support, we can navigate these difficulties and emerge stronger.
Welcome to my counseling page! I am a calm, honest, empathetic, and laid-back professional who is committed to creating a safe and supportive environment for my clients. If you're feeling overwhelmed, anxious, are experiencing depression, or if you're struggling with a major life transition, I'm here for you. Life's unexpected challenges can leave us feeling overwhelmed, but with the right support, we can navigate these difficulties and emerge stronger.
(262) 218-3389 View (262) 218-3389
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Tony Penton
Licensed Professional Counselor, LPC
Verified Verified
1 Endorsed
Fond Du Lac, WI 54935
Welcome, and thanks for stopping by my page! I understand that this effort to find a counselor can be one filled with anxiety. You have reached a point in your life where you have done all you can to help yourself, but you still find yourself needing assistance in doing so. I am honored that you chose to stop here for a moment. Making the next steps to contact a counselor will require more strength. I know you can do it. You have come this far, don’t stop! Whether you choose me or someone else, you’re heading in the right direction.
Welcome, and thanks for stopping by my page! I understand that this effort to find a counselor can be one filled with anxiety. You have reached a point in your life where you have done all you can to help yourself, but you still find yourself needing assistance in doing so. I am honored that you chose to stop here for a moment. Making the next steps to contact a counselor will require more strength. I know you can do it. You have come this far, don’t stop! Whether you choose me or someone else, you’re heading in the right direction.
(414) 509-0061 View (414) 509-0061
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Stacey Dulin
Licensed Professional Counselor, LPC, MA
Verified Verified
2 Endorsed
Sun Prairie, WI 53590
Are you looking for help with life's challenges? Do you strive for inner peace and happiness? I can help you through these difficult times and assist you with making important decisions you may be facing. We will work together to come up with individualized solutions to help you overcome your obstacles so you can be your authentic self. I want to provide you with a safe, supportive environment, and want you to feel comfortable, so I often incorporate relaxation exercises into sessions. I am experienced in providing a wide variety of therapeutic services to individuals, couples, and families.
Are you looking for help with life's challenges? Do you strive for inner peace and happiness? I can help you through these difficult times and assist you with making important decisions you may be facing. We will work together to come up with individualized solutions to help you overcome your obstacles so you can be your authentic self. I want to provide you with a safe, supportive environment, and want you to feel comfortable, so I often incorporate relaxation exercises into sessions. I am experienced in providing a wide variety of therapeutic services to individuals, couples, and families.
(608) 807-2399 View (608) 807-2399
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Tanya Hiser
Licensed Professional Counselor, LPC, NRT
Verified Verified
2 Endorsed
Madison, WI 53719  (Online Only)
I love working with adolescents and adults who need assistance finding their authentic self and true voice. Those who suffer with trauma related to their life circumstances, past or present, are of particular interest to me, especially those in the professions of police, fire or EMT's. The issues at hand, be they anxiety, addiction, trauma or depression are only gateways to discovering healing, balance and wellness on multiple levels. I assist you in becoming the abundant, vibrant best version of yourself by helping you release old patterns of thinking and behaving that are stopping you from being who you want to be.
I love working with adolescents and adults who need assistance finding their authentic self and true voice. Those who suffer with trauma related to their life circumstances, past or present, are of particular interest to me, especially those in the professions of police, fire or EMT's. The issues at hand, be they anxiety, addiction, trauma or depression are only gateways to discovering healing, balance and wellness on multiple levels. I assist you in becoming the abundant, vibrant best version of yourself by helping you release old patterns of thinking and behaving that are stopping you from being who you want to be.
(608) 422-4075 View (608) 422-4075
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Katy M Hagmeyer
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, MSW, LCSW
Verified Verified
Oak Creek, WI 53154
Currently only accepting clients that communicates via American Sign Language. I work with individuals facing a variety of challenges in life. I believe in strength based approach, utilizing strength and inspiration to lead you to whole well being. My approach is nonjudgmental, I believe each individual have inner strength and inspiration that can guide them in recovery. I integrate various theories and skills into my practice with a belief in mindfulness and motivational interviewing as a therapeutic tool. I take great care in my approach as a culturally sensitive and caring person.
Currently only accepting clients that communicates via American Sign Language. I work with individuals facing a variety of challenges in life. I believe in strength based approach, utilizing strength and inspiration to lead you to whole well being. My approach is nonjudgmental, I believe each individual have inner strength and inspiration that can guide them in recovery. I integrate various theories and skills into my practice with a belief in mindfulness and motivational interviewing as a therapeutic tool. I take great care in my approach as a culturally sensitive and caring person.
(414) 246-5563 View (414) 246-5563
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Julie Ann Paleen Aronow
Marriage & Family Therapist, LMFT, MS
Verified Verified
1 Endorsed
Middleton, WI 53562
No matter who you are, or what you’re facing, you deserve a life worth living. I am here to help you break through the pain, anxiety, depression, and roadblocks holding you back from the life, and the relationships, you want and deserve. Are you living with unspoken pain from past trauma? Struggling with family or relationship conflicts that are never resolved? At the pinnacle of your career, yet drowning in workplace stress leading to anxiety, depression or substance use? Experiencing pandemic-related stress bubbling to the surface? If so, let’s talk.
No matter who you are, or what you’re facing, you deserve a life worth living. I am here to help you break through the pain, anxiety, depression, and roadblocks holding you back from the life, and the relationships, you want and deserve. Are you living with unspoken pain from past trauma? Struggling with family or relationship conflicts that are never resolved? At the pinnacle of your career, yet drowning in workplace stress leading to anxiety, depression or substance use? Experiencing pandemic-related stress bubbling to the surface? If so, let’s talk.
(608) 802-7546 View (608) 802-7546
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Maureen Martin
Pre-Licensed Professional
Verified Verified
Watertown, WI 53094
First, let me get your attention by telling you I promise " This too shall pass". You might be feeling broken and lost somewhere inside yourself and your past has been one struggle after another possibly of your own making or because of what others have done. I hope that you and I can work together so you can live your best life as you imagine you want it to be. Laughter is amazing and should be part of your life on a daily basis. I hope that together we can find the answer to your needs so that you can learn to dance with the music and enjoy where you are even in the middle of winter.
First, let me get your attention by telling you I promise " This too shall pass". You might be feeling broken and lost somewhere inside yourself and your past has been one struggle after another possibly of your own making or because of what others have done. I hope that you and I can work together so you can live your best life as you imagine you want it to be. Laughter is amazing and should be part of your life on a daily basis. I hope that together we can find the answer to your needs so that you can learn to dance with the music and enjoy where you are even in the middle of winter.
(920) 668-2118 View (920) 668-2118
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Andrea Himes
Licensed Professional Counselor, LPC, SAC
Verified Verified
2 Endorsed
Racine, WI 53403  (Online Only)
Are you sick and tired of being sick and tired? You’re stuck in this cycle that you can’t consciously figure out how to change. Nobody understands and the shame gets deeper. Maybe you can’t shake the anxious voice in your head, you can’t escape the depressed part of you that keeps creeping in, or you keep hitting self destruct. Whatever the reason, I am proud of you for seeking help because being vulnerable is not easy. I want to create a nonjudgmental space where you can be your authentic self and explore deeper levels. You are the expert on yourself. I want to help you find your stuck points so that you can move for forward.
Are you sick and tired of being sick and tired? You’re stuck in this cycle that you can’t consciously figure out how to change. Nobody understands and the shame gets deeper. Maybe you can’t shake the anxious voice in your head, you can’t escape the depressed part of you that keeps creeping in, or you keep hitting self destruct. Whatever the reason, I am proud of you for seeking help because being vulnerable is not easy. I want to create a nonjudgmental space where you can be your authentic self and explore deeper levels. You are the expert on yourself. I want to help you find your stuck points so that you can move for forward.
(262) 599-6444 View (262) 599-6444
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Courtney M Lalond
Licensed Professional Counselor, LPC
Verified Verified
Milwaukee, WI 53215
My name is Courtney LaLond. I am a Licensed Professional Counselor. I have been practicing for about 5 years now. I have 4 years of experience working with children ages 5-18, along with adults with persistent mental health disorders. I work with people from young children to seniors. I am experienced in working with people with anxiety, depression, bipolar disorder, obsessive-compulsive disorder, addiction, and other persistent mental health disorders.
My name is Courtney LaLond. I am a Licensed Professional Counselor. I have been practicing for about 5 years now. I have 4 years of experience working with children ages 5-18, along with adults with persistent mental health disorders. I work with people from young children to seniors. I am experienced in working with people with anxiety, depression, bipolar disorder, obsessive-compulsive disorder, addiction, and other persistent mental health disorders.
(414) 240-0984 View (414) 240-0984
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Michael P Rospenda
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, LCSW, SAC
Verified Verified
Brookfield, WI 53005
Do you find yourself focusing on past adversities or future concerns? Do you notice that they seem to take you away from making the changes you want for yourself or your relationships? I would like to work with you in determining how to process and work through these challenges while staying in the present moment. I will work collaboratively with you to help you become the best version of yourself while taking into account your life’s circumstances. I bring a warm, empathetic, and energetic approach that fosters a safe environment to put you at ease in order to explore the challenges you face.
Do you find yourself focusing on past adversities or future concerns? Do you notice that they seem to take you away from making the changes you want for yourself or your relationships? I would like to work with you in determining how to process and work through these challenges while staying in the present moment. I will work collaboratively with you to help you become the best version of yourself while taking into account your life’s circumstances. I bring a warm, empathetic, and energetic approach that fosters a safe environment to put you at ease in order to explore the challenges you face.
(262) 592-8960 View (262) 592-8960
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Krin Kramer Psychotherapy
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, MSW, LCSW
Verified Verified
Delafield, WI 53018
I am passionate about using EMDR (eye movement desensitization and reprocessing) to assist clients struggling with performance blocks, PTSD, complex trauma, complicated grief, pet grief, sexual abuse, adjustment, relationship trauma, medical trauma, creative flow and addictions. Shadow work can be incredibly effective when seeking assistance with subconscious blocks.
I am passionate about using EMDR (eye movement desensitization and reprocessing) to assist clients struggling with performance blocks, PTSD, complex trauma, complicated grief, pet grief, sexual abuse, adjustment, relationship trauma, medical trauma, creative flow and addictions. Shadow work can be incredibly effective when seeking assistance with subconscious blocks.
(920) 520-2901 View (920) 520-2901
Dr. Lauri C. Gebhard
Psychologist, PhD
Verified Verified
Shorewood, WI 53211
Are you stressed? Depressed? Anxious? Angry? Do you suffer from fatigue? Insomnia? Perfectionism? Low self esteem? Infertility? Weight Problems? Trauma? ADD? or Memory Problems? I can help. I am a clinical health psychologist with a specialty in behavioral medicine and am dedicated to empowering patients to positively heal their mind, body and spirit. With the specialty training I received in mind body medicine across the country, including through Harvard Medical School/Cambridge Hospital and University of Miami/Jackson Memorial Medical Center, I founded the Mind Body Program over 25 years ago. We employ innovative practices
Are you stressed? Depressed? Anxious? Angry? Do you suffer from fatigue? Insomnia? Perfectionism? Low self esteem? Infertility? Weight Problems? Trauma? ADD? or Memory Problems? I can help. I am a clinical health psychologist with a specialty in behavioral medicine and am dedicated to empowering patients to positively heal their mind, body and spirit. With the specialty training I received in mind body medicine across the country, including through Harvard Medical School/Cambridge Hospital and University of Miami/Jackson Memorial Medical Center, I founded the Mind Body Program over 25 years ago. We employ innovative practices
(262) 214-5777 View (262) 214-5777
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Lori Cao
Marriage & Family Therapist, CSAT-S, EMDR, Sexolog, CPTT-S, CBRTT-C
Verified Verified
1 Endorsed
Elm Grove, WI 53122
Welcome, I'm Lori Cao, and I'm delighted you've found your way here. If you're navigating challenges such as pornography/sexual addiction, compulsive sexual behaviors, deception, gaslighting, betrayal trauma, complex trauma, problematic sexual choices, as well as anxiety and/or depression, you're in the right place. For those seeking to enrich their relationships, it's a privilege to guide individuals and couples towards deeper, more fulfilling connections. Our aim is to assist every individual and couple in fostering a life and relationship that is healthy, balanced, connected, and joyful.
Welcome, I'm Lori Cao, and I'm delighted you've found your way here. If you're navigating challenges such as pornography/sexual addiction, compulsive sexual behaviors, deception, gaslighting, betrayal trauma, complex trauma, problematic sexual choices, as well as anxiety and/or depression, you're in the right place. For those seeking to enrich their relationships, it's a privilege to guide individuals and couples towards deeper, more fulfilling connections. Our aim is to assist every individual and couple in fostering a life and relationship that is healthy, balanced, connected, and joyful.
(612) 399-6449 View (612) 399-6449
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Mind Body Spirit Program
Psychologist, PhD
Verified Verified
Shorewood, WI 53211
Immediate Appointments Available Visit www.mindbodyspiritprogram.com. We treat each client with the the respect and compassion they deserve. We work as a team to help each client accomplish their goals, fulfill their potential and live their best life. Each client has rheir own story and we collaboratively design a plan to accomplish success. We believe that providing a ZERO judgement zone is crucial. We will be your guide, mentor, and biggest cheerleader. Together we will accomplish your goals so you can live the life you were meant to live
Immediate Appointments Available Visit www.mindbodyspiritprogram.com. We treat each client with the the respect and compassion they deserve. We work as a team to help each client accomplish their goals, fulfill their potential and live their best life. Each client has rheir own story and we collaboratively design a plan to accomplish success. We believe that providing a ZERO judgement zone is crucial. We will be your guide, mentor, and biggest cheerleader. Together we will accomplish your goals so you can live the life you were meant to live
(262) 217-7809 View (262) 217-7809

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Marriage Counseling Therapists

How does marriage counseling work?

Marriage counseling works by teaching couples concrete skills to communicate with one another and solve disagreements in healthy ways. A trained mental health professional works with both members of a couple to explore difficulties the couple may be having and helps them develop skills to address these matters. Couples who don’t have any difficulties but want to prepare for marriage may develop skills for the future.

How long does marriage counseling typically last?

Marriage counseling is a short-term form of therapy; the process may last between four and eight sessions. Other forms of relationship guidance from mental health professionals, such as couples therapy, are longer lasting, may focus on the past rather than just the present, and are tailored to the individual couple and their emotions, history, and patterns in the relationship. Couples therapy often lasts for 12 weeks or longer.

Is marriage counseling effective?

Marriage counseling helps many couples develop relationship skills that may not have been acquired or tested in a relationship; partners may be better able to communicate and address conflict following counseling. However, there are many different forms of marriage counseling, and this form of counseling does not have as strong an evidence base as other modalities such as couples therapy.

Is marriage counseling effective if only one partner wants to go?

Yes, marriage counseling can still be effective if one partner convinces the other to engage in the process. Of course, whether counseling is effective depends on the couple’s commitment to work on their relationship; however, the short-term, skills-based nature of marriage counseling makes it a relatively easy “ask” of a partner, and the hesitant individual may see its value once counseling begins.