Dina M Anaya
Licensed Professional Counselor, MA, LPC Verified
Holland, MI 49424
Not accepting new clients
For many years, I have specialized in working with adults, both English and Spanish speaking, who struggle with anxiety, depression and family issues.
Maybe your life has gone off course, a relationship didn't go as planned or shame is weighing you down from reaching your full potential. Dina will walk alongside you on your path to discovery and healing and help you realize you are not alone. Sharing your story takes courage and Healing Hope is here to listen.
(616) 219-8206
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Holland, MI 49424
Not accepting new clients
For many years, I have specialized in working with adults, both English and Spanish speaking, who struggle with anxiety, depression and family issues.
Maybe your life has gone off course, a relationship didn't go as planned or shame is weighing you down from reaching your full potential. Dina will walk alongside you on your path to discovery and healing and help you realize you are not alone. Sharing your story takes courage and Healing Hope is here to listen.
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Jean Chamness Russner
Limited Licensed Psychologist, MSA, MA LLP Verified
Holland, MI 49423
Offers online therapy
Gerald Schmuker, a Child and Adolescent Psychiatrist, and share space in his practice: Guided Development Family Psychiatric Care.
*Not currently accepting new clients.* People are my Passion. Whether you need a listening ear to process feelings, a helping hand to navigate life transitions or interpersonal relationships, or education on managing mental conditions, I'm here to help. With over 20 years of experience and being CBT Certified, I use DBT-informed CBT techniques, combined with the healing effects of a positive, supportive relationship, to teach you coping strategies to manage stress and improve your emotional well-being. I especially enjoy working with families of children and adolescents struggling with emotional or behavioral issues.
(616) 219-8286
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Holland, MI 49423
Offers online therapy
Gerald Schmuker, a Child and Adolescent Psychiatrist, and share space in his practice: Guided Development Family Psychiatric Care.
*Not currently accepting new clients.* People are my Passion. Whether you need a listening ear to process feelings, a helping hand to navigate life transitions or interpersonal relationships, or education on managing mental conditions, I'm here to help. With over 20 years of experience and being CBT Certified, I use DBT-informed CBT techniques, combined with the healing effects of a positive, supportive relationship, to teach you coping strategies to manage stress and improve your emotional well-being. I especially enjoy working with families of children and adolescents struggling with emotional or behavioral issues.
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Lynn Stubbs
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, LMSW, ACSW Verified
Holland, MI 49423
Not accepting new clients
Originally trained in the psychodynamic tradition, I utilize a variety of approaches including Internal Family Systems, Cognitive Behavioral Therapy, TEAM ( a highly effective therapy developed by David Burns - Stanford University), Acceptance Commitment Therapy, Mindfulness, and Brainspotting.
For the past 30 years, I have had the privilege of helping individuals achieve their goals and overcome a variety of difficulties including depression, anxiety, eating disorders, relational struggles, and life transitions. My hope is that each individual I work with will gain a better understanding of themselves and their context and also learn valuable skills to move forward towards a more fulfilling and flourishing life.
(616) 552-4349
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Holland, MI 49423
Not accepting new clients
Originally trained in the psychodynamic tradition, I utilize a variety of approaches including Internal Family Systems, Cognitive Behavioral Therapy, TEAM ( a highly effective therapy developed by David Burns - Stanford University), Acceptance Commitment Therapy, Mindfulness, and Brainspotting.
For the past 30 years, I have had the privilege of helping individuals achieve their goals and overcome a variety of difficulties including depression, anxiety, eating disorders, relational struggles, and life transitions. My hope is that each individual I work with will gain a better understanding of themselves and their context and also learn valuable skills to move forward towards a more fulfilling and flourishing life.
Abundance of Hope
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, LMSW Verified
Holland, MI 49423
Offers online therapy
I have a heart for helping people and walking alongside them in their journey of healing. Life can bring unexpected pain and suffering. Often times you can feel lost and confused with no one to turn to. Counseling is a beautiful way to seek help from someone who will guide you through the littlest to most difficult times in your life. Everyone can benefit from talking to someone who is not a family member or friend. Someone who will truly hear your needs and unconditionally support you. I am here for you! Please Call Today!
(616) 952-2019
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Holland, MI 49423
Offers online therapy
I have a heart for helping people and walking alongside them in their journey of healing. Life can bring unexpected pain and suffering. Often times you can feel lost and confused with no one to turn to. Counseling is a beautiful way to seek help from someone who will guide you through the littlest to most difficult times in your life. Everyone can benefit from talking to someone who is not a family member or friend. Someone who will truly hear your needs and unconditionally support you. I am here for you! Please Call Today!
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Theresa R Butler
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, LMSW Verified
Holland, MI 49423
Offers online therapy
I have over 12 years of experience as a family therapist and I have worked extensively with individuals, parents and children to build healthy relationships.
There are times in life when it feels like you cannot take another minute of toxic stress or anxiety….whether it is about how you are coping with personal challenges or about your children or relationships. Perhaps there are events in your past that keep you from moving forward with your life. I invite you to a calm and welcoming space to help you find a way to resolve these issues. I am an empathetic listener who strives to help others rediscover strengths to heal their hearts so they can achieve their goals.
(616) 499-6209
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Holland, MI 49423
Offers online therapy
I have over 12 years of experience as a family therapist and I have worked extensively with individuals, parents and children to build healthy relationships.
There are times in life when it feels like you cannot take another minute of toxic stress or anxiety….whether it is about how you are coping with personal challenges or about your children or relationships. Perhaps there are events in your past that keep you from moving forward with your life. I invite you to a calm and welcoming space to help you find a way to resolve these issues. I am an empathetic listener who strives to help others rediscover strengths to heal their hearts so they can achieve their goals.
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Heather Louise O'Brien
Licensed Professional Counselor, MA, LPC, NCC Verified
Holland, MI 49424
Offers online therapy
I have worked in the mental health field for over 20 years &can help with a wide range of issues, including self-esteem, spirituality, anxiety, depression, grief and loss, relationship/family (couples, divorce, separation) LGBTQ concerns, and gender dysphoria.
We all have meaningful stories to tell, and I look forward to learning how I can be of service to you, whether it’s easing stress, improving communication, getting your relationship (with others and yourself) back on track or helping you develop healthy thinking patterns. I can help give you “tools for your toolbox” to help overcome life’s obstacles. My goal is for you to feel valued, safe, and heard while building a relationship of trust and understanding. I will walk alongside you and provide collaborative, action oriented and honest feedback to shape your journey towards a greater sense of freedom, meaning & purpose.
(616) 952-3173
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Holland, MI 49424
Offers online therapy
I have worked in the mental health field for over 20 years &can help with a wide range of issues, including self-esteem, spirituality, anxiety, depression, grief and loss, relationship/family (couples, divorce, separation) LGBTQ concerns, and gender dysphoria.
We all have meaningful stories to tell, and I look forward to learning how I can be of service to you, whether it’s easing stress, improving communication, getting your relationship (with others and yourself) back on track or helping you develop healthy thinking patterns. I can help give you “tools for your toolbox” to help overcome life’s obstacles. My goal is for you to feel valued, safe, and heard while building a relationship of trust and understanding. I will walk alongside you and provide collaborative, action oriented and honest feedback to shape your journey towards a greater sense of freedom, meaning & purpose.
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Susan Van Wyngarden
Counselor, MA, LPC Verified
Holland, MI 49423
Offers online therapy
A unique aspect of my practice is that Midtown is a 501(c)3 non profit practice supported by a family of contributors.
I love working with a client earnestly seeking life change. We pursue self reflection and cognitive restructuring.while probing the roots of a client's faith. I have also found that my life experience, which includes a 32-year marriage and the raising of 3 young adults now heading out into the world, provides a rich source of good counsel. My style is characterized by a personal approach that is warm and supportive with a holistic focus and my sincere hope for all my clients is a personal awareness that brings the emotional and mental stability that leads to positive behaviors.
(616) 871-2436
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Holland, MI 49423
Offers online therapy
A unique aspect of my practice is that Midtown is a 501(c)3 non profit practice supported by a family of contributors.
I love working with a client earnestly seeking life change. We pursue self reflection and cognitive restructuring.while probing the roots of a client's faith. I have also found that my life experience, which includes a 32-year marriage and the raising of 3 young adults now heading out into the world, provides a rich source of good counsel. My style is characterized by a personal approach that is warm and supportive with a holistic focus and my sincere hope for all my clients is a personal awareness that brings the emotional and mental stability that leads to positive behaviors.
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Lauren DeRoo
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, LMSW Verified
Holland, MI 49423
Offers online therapy
CURRENTLY ACCEPTING NEW CLIENTS! Your story matters. Life is full of twists and turns that can create baggage (Trauma, Family conflict, Stress & Anxiety, Depression, Unexpected life circumstances & Changes, Life Transition & Growing pains) amongst the beauty of your life. We all have flaws. But we need to accept that we are worth loving and worthy of hope and healing. This starts with unpacking your story, and finding your truth in the process. It is my honor to walk along side you, assisting in this process of healing and gaining strength within your story and life. FYI- I am walking distance from Hope College!
(616) 208-5611
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Holland, MI 49423
Offers online therapy
CURRENTLY ACCEPTING NEW CLIENTS! Your story matters. Life is full of twists and turns that can create baggage (Trauma, Family conflict, Stress & Anxiety, Depression, Unexpected life circumstances & Changes, Life Transition & Growing pains) amongst the beauty of your life. We all have flaws. But we need to accept that we are worth loving and worthy of hope and healing. This starts with unpacking your story, and finding your truth in the process. It is my honor to walk along side you, assisting in this process of healing and gaining strength within your story and life. FYI- I am walking distance from Hope College!
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Tony Bordenkircher
Marriage & Family Therapist, LMFT, CSAT Verified
Holland, MI 49423
Offers online therapy
I am a Marriage and Family Therapist in the Holland / Zeeland area providing supportive yet challenging services in my specialty areas of couples, family, and their teens. I also specialize in the assessment and treatment of Sexual Addiction. Clients choose me because of my specific training, particularly with couples, and my ability to integrate matters of faith. Please view my website or contact me to schedule an appointment!
(616) 420-2579
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Holland, MI 49423
Offers online therapy
I am a Marriage and Family Therapist in the Holland / Zeeland area providing supportive yet challenging services in my specialty areas of couples, family, and their teens. I also specialize in the assessment and treatment of Sexual Addiction. Clients choose me because of my specific training, particularly with couples, and my ability to integrate matters of faith. Please view my website or contact me to schedule an appointment!
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Lennis Baggech
Limited Licensed Psychologist, MA, LLP Verified
Holland, MI 49423
Offers online therapy
Anxiety, depression, and difficult family relationships are foundational to life's pain.
I've been in practice 25 yrs - with individuals/couples & families -- kids 6+, many teens, college students & adults. I'm shamelessly informal -- no ties or pressed shirts here!. The office is quite unique - - very large, ultra comfy, w/MANY natural oddities... slightly chaotic -- like life! Good strong coffee/tea/soda & munchies always available. Pets welcome. I'm adopted myself, a licensed foster parent, & work with trauma and attachment. I have a multi-cultural family & lived abroad (Africa). I do co-parenting therapy & am also very familiar w/court systems, working with Dr.'s, lawyers, schools and custody issues.
(616) 566-1135
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Holland, MI 49423
Offers online therapy
Anxiety, depression, and difficult family relationships are foundational to life's pain.
I've been in practice 25 yrs - with individuals/couples & families -- kids 6+, many teens, college students & adults. I'm shamelessly informal -- no ties or pressed shirts here!. The office is quite unique - - very large, ultra comfy, w/MANY natural oddities... slightly chaotic -- like life! Good strong coffee/tea/soda & munchies always available. Pets welcome. I'm adopted myself, a licensed foster parent, & work with trauma and attachment. I have a multi-cultural family & lived abroad (Africa). I do co-parenting therapy & am also very familiar w/court systems, working with Dr.'s, lawyers, schools and custody issues.
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Daniel L Bierma
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, MEd, MDiv, LMSW Verified
Holland, MI 49423
Offers online therapy
I would be honored to be trusted as your therapist as we work together to help you find you and your family's goal(s) and move yourself toward a more fulfilling and productive life that you choose.
I have been working with children, families and organizations for over three decades in various forms. From children with special needs, to teaching, to hospice care, to working in schools and organizations, to now working full time as a therapist. In working as a therapist I have experience working in schools, churches, foster care, CPS, FOC, family relationships, child behavior, parenting, conflict resolution, and leadership counseling. I have worked with children, parents, grandparents, pastors, principals, and others seeking to move in a different direction, or better manage their current situation.
(616) 201-0834
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Holland, MI 49423
Offers online therapy
I would be honored to be trusted as your therapist as we work together to help you find you and your family's goal(s) and move yourself toward a more fulfilling and productive life that you choose.
I have been working with children, families and organizations for over three decades in various forms. From children with special needs, to teaching, to hospice care, to working in schools and organizations, to now working full time as a therapist. In working as a therapist I have experience working in schools, churches, foster care, CPS, FOC, family relationships, child behavior, parenting, conflict resolution, and leadership counseling. I have worked with children, parents, grandparents, pastors, principals, and others seeking to move in a different direction, or better manage their current situation.
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Molly Henson
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, LMSW, ADS Verified
Holland, MI 49423
Offers online therapy
Our lives are full of changes, struggles, and great joys. It is during the times when we are experiencing a variety of family or personal struggles that we need someone to listen to us and offer resources and alternative points of view while we challenge ourselves to grow. Whether you, your teenager or your family are experiencing obstacles, I would like to help. I have spent nearly 20 years working with adolescents, particularly girls, and their families. I also enjoy working with athletes and sports-minded individuals.
(616) 788-2793
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Holland, MI 49423
Offers online therapy
Our lives are full of changes, struggles, and great joys. It is during the times when we are experiencing a variety of family or personal struggles that we need someone to listen to us and offer resources and alternative points of view while we challenge ourselves to grow. Whether you, your teenager or your family are experiencing obstacles, I would like to help. I have spent nearly 20 years working with adolescents, particularly girls, and their families. I also enjoy working with athletes and sports-minded individuals.
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Joel Whitney, Counselor
Counselor, MA, LPC Verified
Holland, MI 49423
Joel is a Christian Counselor in Holland MI who works exclusively with children and teens, and helps parents reclaim confidence and joy in parenting. Joel is focused exclusively on kids and family. His passion and expertise lie in his love of kids and getting to know them. He specializes in childhood & adolescent issues, parenting strategies, and coping through divorce. Joel excels at making connections with kids and parents and helping them navigate through the frustrations of family life to reach a place of peace and joy.
(616) 548-6081
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Holland, MI 49423
Joel is a Christian Counselor in Holland MI who works exclusively with children and teens, and helps parents reclaim confidence and joy in parenting. Joel is focused exclusively on kids and family. His passion and expertise lie in his love of kids and getting to know them. He specializes in childhood & adolescent issues, parenting strategies, and coping through divorce. Joel excels at making connections with kids and parents and helping them navigate through the frustrations of family life to reach a place of peace and joy.
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Marianne Huff
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, LMSW Verified
Holland, MI 49424
I enjoy working with individuals who are looking within themselves for the answers to the questions. The key to inner healing is partially about asking the right questions. I am best suited to working with individuals who struggle with anxiety; depression; childhood trauma and issues related to being raised in a home with alcoholic parents or family members. I have experience working with parents who have children with disabilities. It can be difficult to be parenting a child with a mental illness or autism. I am person-centered in my approach. I work collaboratively with individuals to help each reach his/her potential.
(313) 329-6108
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Holland, MI 49424
I enjoy working with individuals who are looking within themselves for the answers to the questions. The key to inner healing is partially about asking the right questions. I am best suited to working with individuals who struggle with anxiety; depression; childhood trauma and issues related to being raised in a home with alcoholic parents or family members. I have experience working with parents who have children with disabilities. It can be difficult to be parenting a child with a mental illness or autism. I am person-centered in my approach. I work collaboratively with individuals to help each reach his/her potential.
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James Patrick Doherty
Psychologist, PsyD Verified
Holland, MI 49423
I work with children, adolescents, adults, couples and families on a wide range of personal and family-adjustment concerns. Some people have a clear idea of the problem at the outset. Others simply feel troubled and are having difficulty coping with daily challenges. In all cases, I begin with a close consideration of what is known about the difficulty and of factors that may have contributed to its development. In doing so, I encourage a spirit of collaboration in identifying a treatment focus that includes utilization of personal strengths and capabilities necessary to reestablish a better sense of overall wellbeing.
(616) 209-4151
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Holland, MI 49423
I work with children, adolescents, adults, couples and families on a wide range of personal and family-adjustment concerns. Some people have a clear idea of the problem at the outset. Others simply feel troubled and are having difficulty coping with daily challenges. In all cases, I begin with a close consideration of what is known about the difficulty and of factors that may have contributed to its development. In doing so, I encourage a spirit of collaboration in identifying a treatment focus that includes utilization of personal strengths and capabilities necessary to reestablish a better sense of overall wellbeing.
Cindy Milton
Marriage & Family Therapist, LLMFT, DBA-H Verified
Holland, MI 49423
Offers online therapy
Do you feel that something is standing in the way of you fully connecting with your partner? Do you love your partner, but feel like you are not “in love” with them anymore? Oftentimes, these feelings arise when couples get caught in negative cycles that block them from forming or maintaining healthy emotional bonds with one another. The stress of an unharmonious relationship is an obstacle that expands over time, pushing couples further apart. While the couple feels the strain, they seldom recognize the undesirable routines that are the cause, nor do they know how to change them. This is when marriage and family therapy can help.
(231) 867-0855
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Holland, MI 49423
Offers online therapy
Do you feel that something is standing in the way of you fully connecting with your partner? Do you love your partner, but feel like you are not “in love” with them anymore? Oftentimes, these feelings arise when couples get caught in negative cycles that block them from forming or maintaining healthy emotional bonds with one another. The stress of an unharmonious relationship is an obstacle that expands over time, pushing couples further apart. While the couple feels the strain, they seldom recognize the undesirable routines that are the cause, nor do they know how to change them. This is when marriage and family therapy can help.
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Lisa Giles
Marriage & Family Therapist, LMFT Verified
Office is near:
Holland, MI 49424
I offer individual, family and couples therapy depending on your specific needs.
To start, I am an Internal Family Systems Therapist and most clients I see are looking for IFS therapy. Now, Are you at a place in your life where you just want more? Maybe your marriage is not necessarily "bad" but a part of you feels like you are missing out on what you know it could be. Maybe a part of you is critical of yourself and is keeping you from reaching your dreams. I believe that better understanding and getting to know your own internal world helps you see the world differently. It is from that centered place that you can better get to know your compassionate, curious, and confident self. Life can be so much more!
(760) 642-6094
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Office is near:
Holland, MI 49424
I offer individual, family and couples therapy depending on your specific needs.
To start, I am an Internal Family Systems Therapist and most clients I see are looking for IFS therapy. Now, Are you at a place in your life where you just want more? Maybe your marriage is not necessarily "bad" but a part of you feels like you are missing out on what you know it could be. Maybe a part of you is critical of yourself and is keeping you from reaching your dreams. I believe that better understanding and getting to know your own internal world helps you see the world differently. It is from that centered place that you can better get to know your compassionate, curious, and confident self. Life can be so much more!
Curtis J Birky PhD
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, PhD, LMSW, LCSW Verified
Office is near:
Holland, MI 49423
Offers online therapy
When things are especially stressful or overwhelming therapy can be a good resource. I am trained to assist as you make significant decisions or figure out how to proceed. Typically I help people with relationship or family matters, depression and anxiety, loss of a loved one, unexpected circumstances, and matters of personal growth or change.
(269) 202-4258
Verified

Office is near:
Holland, MI 49423
Offers online therapy
When things are especially stressful or overwhelming therapy can be a good resource. I am trained to assist as you make significant decisions or figure out how to proceed. Typically I help people with relationship or family matters, depression and anxiety, loss of a loved one, unexpected circumstances, and matters of personal growth or change.
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Nicole Beurkens
Psychologist, PhD, CNS Verified
Office is near:
Holland, MI 49424
Offers online therapy
For 20 years I have had the privilege of working with children, adolescents, and adults affected by a variety of neurological, developmental, and emotional disorders. Patients and families seek out my services from across the state of Michigan, throughout the United States, and around the world. The team of experts at my clinic provides the highest quality evaluation and treatment services, and supports all family members in the process. Our comprehensive treatment plans ensure that patients gain the communication, relationship, and learning skills they need for a high quality of life now and in the future.
(616) 548-6607
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Office is near:
Holland, MI 49424
Offers online therapy
For 20 years I have had the privilege of working with children, adolescents, and adults affected by a variety of neurological, developmental, and emotional disorders. Patients and families seek out my services from across the state of Michigan, throughout the United States, and around the world. The team of experts at my clinic provides the highest quality evaluation and treatment services, and supports all family members in the process. Our comprehensive treatment plans ensure that patients gain the communication, relationship, and learning skills they need for a high quality of life now and in the future.
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Anna Van Wyck
Counselor, LPC, RPT, IMH-EII Verified
Office is near:
Holland, MI 49423
Child Counselor, Registered Play Therapist (RPT), Infant Family Specialist, (IMH-E(II)). Counseling helps children & families work on their concerns, relationships, behaviors, and feelings. As a therapist who specializes in working with children, I often use therapeutic play (Play Therapy). Play is expression, communication, and learning for children. It is by using play therapy that I connect with kiddos, help children learn new skills, and join with them in processing their life experiences. It is my goal to work together with you toward enhancing your child's self-esteem, relationships, emotional health, and inner strength.
(231) 903-6351
Verified

Office is near:
Holland, MI 49423
Child Counselor, Registered Play Therapist (RPT), Infant Family Specialist, (IMH-E(II)). Counseling helps children & families work on their concerns, relationships, behaviors, and feelings. As a therapist who specializes in working with children, I often use therapeutic play (Play Therapy). Play is expression, communication, and learning for children. It is by using play therapy that I connect with kiddos, help children learn new skills, and join with them in processing their life experiences. It is my goal to work together with you toward enhancing your child's self-esteem, relationships, emotional health, and inner strength.

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What type of mental health professional is right for me?
Some of the most common types of mental health providers in Holland are psychologists, licensed counselors, therapists, psychotherapists, and licensed clinical social workers, all of whom diagnose mental health conditions and provide individualized treatment.

Services offered, education and credentials vary by type of mental health professional. Each professional in Holland then may specialize in certain areas, such as depression, marriage counseling, or anxiety. Although many mental health providers are not licensed to prescribe medication, they may coordinate with a provider who can.

Both in-person and online therapy sessions are available from most psychologists.

How to find a specialist?
You can refine your search using the filters on this page. There are several categories you can filter by to find mental health professionals with the experience you are looking for. You may want to filter for CBT Psychologists in Holland, or Child Psychologists in Holland.

Many find it useful to use filters to view only psychologists that have experience working with certain issues, like Holland psychologists specializing in EMDR.

What method of therapy is right for me?
When it comes to treatment methods, there's no 'right way.’ Each method of therapy can be beneficial for a variety of issues. Psychologists in Holland specialize in therapeutic approaches such as CBT, EMDR, and Interpersonal Therapy (IPT), among others. Finding a psychologist or therapist who is a good fit for you is the most important step to discovering what type of therapy, or combination of therapeutic approaches, will meet your individual needs. Learn what to expect from different types of therapy and how they work.

How to use my insurance?
Many therapists accept health insurance. Check to see if your insurance is covered. Feel free to discuss this when you contact the therapist.