Gestalt Therapists in San Lorenzo, CA

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Stevan Gengo
Marriage & Family Therapist, PhD, MFT, SAP
Online Only
My experience includes running five drug treatment programs, certification by the early founders of Gestalt Therapy, working as a forensic specialist, and earning a 7th degree black belt in Aikido.
We're artists, leaning into the world & willing our lives. And rapture, an essential feeling, leads us outward to be more truly ‘there’. Heidegger thus interprets Nietzsche’s “will to power:” A strong, full-bodied interest & movement towards the world, before us as a possibility but not always chosen. Poignantly, Heidegger (1961) names a “fallen” state: “Of someone who is intoxicated...he [sic] 'has' something like rapture. But his is not enraptured. The rapture of intoxication [does not raise one] beyond himself. What we are here calling rapture is merely...being 'soused,' something depriv[ing] us of every possible state of being."
My experience includes running five drug treatment programs, certification by the early founders of Gestalt Therapy, working as a forensic specialist, and earning a 7th degree black belt in Aikido.
We're artists, leaning into the world & willing our lives. And rapture, an essential feeling, leads us outward to be more truly ‘there’. Heidegger thus interprets Nietzsche’s “will to power:” A strong, full-bodied interest & movement towards the world, before us as a possibility but not always chosen. Poignantly, Heidegger (1961) names a “fallen” state: “Of someone who is intoxicated...he [sic] 'has' something like rapture. But his is not enraptured. The rapture of intoxication [does not raise one] beyond himself. What we are here calling rapture is merely...being 'soused,' something depriv[ing] us of every possible state of being."
(415) 818-1346 View (415) 818-1346
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Kristal Audoma
Marriage & Family Therapist, LMFT
Online Only
I utilize Cog-B, Gestalt, and Solution Focused to help individuals move towards a healthier version of themselves.
Hello, my name is Kristal Audoma, and I am a licensed Marriage and Family Therapist. My approach to therapy is direct yet empathetic with a strength-based approach. I work with individuals ranging from children to the elderly. I specialize in treating Anxiety, Depression, Couples Therapy, Family Therapy, Grief and Loss, Anger Management, Feedback Informed Care, LGBTQIA, and trauma informed. My style and approach are a good fit for teens and adults who may be dealing with challenges in their lives, both personally and professionally. These challenges may manifest as anxiety, depression, guilt, and anger.
I utilize Cog-B, Gestalt, and Solution Focused to help individuals move towards a healthier version of themselves.
Hello, my name is Kristal Audoma, and I am a licensed Marriage and Family Therapist. My approach to therapy is direct yet empathetic with a strength-based approach. I work with individuals ranging from children to the elderly. I specialize in treating Anxiety, Depression, Couples Therapy, Family Therapy, Grief and Loss, Anger Management, Feedback Informed Care, LGBTQIA, and trauma informed. My style and approach are a good fit for teens and adults who may be dealing with challenges in their lives, both personally and professionally. These challenges may manifest as anxiety, depression, guilt, and anger.
(707) 877-8447 View (707) 877-8447
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Erik Kahn
Marriage & Family Therapist, LMFT
Online Only
Hello, I'm Erik Kahn, a licensed Marriage and Family Therapist 146734. My approach to therapy is compassionate and collaborative, focusing on helping you navigate challenges and rediscover joy in your life. I specialize in relationship issues, stress management, and personal growth, and I'm here to support you in achieving a fulfilling and balanced life.
Hello, I'm Erik Kahn, a licensed Marriage and Family Therapist 146734. My approach to therapy is compassionate and collaborative, focusing on helping you navigate challenges and rediscover joy in your life. I specialize in relationship issues, stress management, and personal growth, and I'm here to support you in achieving a fulfilling and balanced life.
(949) 403-6761 View (949) 403-6761
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Jessica Paden
Marriage & Family Therapist, LMFT
Serves Area
I am a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist with a practice in California. I work particularly well with smart, intense people with untapped potential. This untapped potential is often a result of the effects of relational wounding, and/or pervasive emotional and mood difficulties. Together, we will work to help you reconnect to your sense of vitality, belonging, and purpose.
I am a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist with a practice in California. I work particularly well with smart, intense people with untapped potential. This untapped potential is often a result of the effects of relational wounding, and/or pervasive emotional and mood difficulties. Together, we will work to help you reconnect to your sense of vitality, belonging, and purpose.
(747) 350-1063 View (747) 350-1063

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Cara Altom
Marriage & Family Therapist, LMFT
1 Endorsed
Online Only
I help Christian women who feel stuck in difficult marriages find honest, courageous clarity about their next steps. Whether the tension comes from conflict at home, pressure at work, or the exhaustion of parenting, you don’t have to keep carrying it alone. My passion is helping women reclaim their voice while still honoring their vows, their values, and their relationship with Christ. Clarity isn’t easy, but it is possible and deeply needed when you’re at a crossroads in your marriage. In our work together, we explore real solutions to real problems, with or without your spouse’s participation in therapy.
I help Christian women who feel stuck in difficult marriages find honest, courageous clarity about their next steps. Whether the tension comes from conflict at home, pressure at work, or the exhaustion of parenting, you don’t have to keep carrying it alone. My passion is helping women reclaim their voice while still honoring their vows, their values, and their relationship with Christ. Clarity isn’t easy, but it is possible and deeply needed when you’re at a crossroads in your marriage. In our work together, we explore real solutions to real problems, with or without your spouse’s participation in therapy.
(530) 627-2168 View (530) 627-2168
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Krystelina Gonzalez
Marriage & Family Therapist, LMFT
Serves Area
I am committed to providing quality counseling with emphasis on compassion, acceptance, personal, and relational growth. My practice specializes in individual functioning and relationships by improving communication and emotional regulation. Me comprometo a proporcionar servicios de asesoramiento y consulta de calidad con énfasis en la compasión, el crecimiento personal y relacional. Mi práctica se especializa en mejorar el funcionamiento y las relaciones individuales al mejorar la comunicación y la inteligencia emocional.
I am committed to providing quality counseling with emphasis on compassion, acceptance, personal, and relational growth. My practice specializes in individual functioning and relationships by improving communication and emotional regulation. Me comprometo a proporcionar servicios de asesoramiento y consulta de calidad con énfasis en la compasión, el crecimiento personal y relacional. Mi práctica se especializa en mejorar el funcionamiento y las relaciones individuales al mejorar la comunicación y la inteligencia emocional.
(760) 691-5240 View (760) 691-5240
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Amanda Hults
Marriage & Family Therapist, LMFT
Online Only
Looking to start therapy, I look forward to providing you with a safe and judgment-free space to process and find new strategies to help you meet your goals. I specialize in working with individuals and couples in areas such as anxiety, depression, life stage changes, conflict resolution, ADHD, trauma, and much more. I hope I get to meet with you soon to help you best meet your goals.
Looking to start therapy, I look forward to providing you with a safe and judgment-free space to process and find new strategies to help you meet your goals. I specialize in working with individuals and couples in areas such as anxiety, depression, life stage changes, conflict resolution, ADHD, trauma, and much more. I hope I get to meet with you soon to help you best meet your goals.
(510) 738-3505 View (510) 738-3505
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Yvonne Guertin
Marriage & Family Therapist, LMFT, RMBP, SEP
5 Endorsed
San Francisco, CA 94109
My integral psychology background and ongoing training draws from several talk and process-oriented, experiential, somatic modalities including Gestalt, the Hakomi Method (hakomica.org), Somatic Experiencing (traumahealing.org) body-oriented approach to healing trauma/stress, and Rosen Method Bodywork (rosenmethod.com), hands on mind-body awareness.
Coming from a holistic, mind-body, humanistic, compassionate perspective, I work with clients who desire to improve the quality of their lives, reducing stress and emotional pain. Clients may suffer from loneliness, depression, low self-esteem, anxiety or loss. They may need help with communication awareness, grounding methods, self-care, sexual fulfillment or life purpose. These conditions are more normal than abnormal, while sometimes feeling overwhelming. I invite clients to listen to and trust their innate wisdom, guiding them to identify and move through the obstacles preventing them from living their life to the fullest.
My integral psychology background and ongoing training draws from several talk and process-oriented, experiential, somatic modalities including Gestalt, the Hakomi Method (hakomica.org), Somatic Experiencing (traumahealing.org) body-oriented approach to healing trauma/stress, and Rosen Method Bodywork (rosenmethod.com), hands on mind-body awareness.
Coming from a holistic, mind-body, humanistic, compassionate perspective, I work with clients who desire to improve the quality of their lives, reducing stress and emotional pain. Clients may suffer from loneliness, depression, low self-esteem, anxiety or loss. They may need help with communication awareness, grounding methods, self-care, sexual fulfillment or life purpose. These conditions are more normal than abnormal, while sometimes feeling overwhelming. I invite clients to listen to and trust their innate wisdom, guiding them to identify and move through the obstacles preventing them from living their life to the fullest.
(415) 800-4671 View (415) 800-4671
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Karen Liu
Marriage & Family Therapist, LMFT
San Francisco, CA 94110
I have 10+ years of experience practicing Gestalt Therapy: a blend of self exploration, body awareness, and creative ways to integrate fragmented parts of ourselves.
Because I have personal life experience in parenting, activism, dance, and working in hospitality and tech (from start-ups to multinational corporations), I can relate to people in many walks of life. I am multi-lingual, a child of immigrants, and have lived abroad. I'm also an adjunct professor and supervisor at CIIS.
I have 10+ years of experience practicing Gestalt Therapy: a blend of self exploration, body awareness, and creative ways to integrate fragmented parts of ourselves.
Because I have personal life experience in parenting, activism, dance, and working in hospitality and tech (from start-ups to multinational corporations), I can relate to people in many walks of life. I am multi-lingual, a child of immigrants, and have lived abroad. I'm also an adjunct professor and supervisor at CIIS.
(415) 366-3506 View (415) 366-3506
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Iara Campos-Davids
Marriage & Family Therapist, MA, LMFT
3 Endorsed
Walnut Creek, CA 94597
Be willing to open yourself to refreshing new beginnings , new ideas, opportunities and gain insights about old patterns that are no longer working for you. In our work together you will become stronger and will be able to develop new beliefs by making meaning of traumatic experiences in a compassionate, non judgmental environment. I have had success working with adults, adolescents and families who have experienced depression, anxiety, low self-esteem, grief/loss, post-traumatic stress disorder and many other issues. Originally from Brazil, I am fluent in Spanish, English and Portuguese .
Be willing to open yourself to refreshing new beginnings , new ideas, opportunities and gain insights about old patterns that are no longer working for you. In our work together you will become stronger and will be able to develop new beliefs by making meaning of traumatic experiences in a compassionate, non judgmental environment. I have had success working with adults, adolescents and families who have experienced depression, anxiety, low self-esteem, grief/loss, post-traumatic stress disorder and many other issues. Originally from Brazil, I am fluent in Spanish, English and Portuguese .
(925) 231-8979 View (925) 231-8979
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Michael Sano
Marriage & Family Therapist Associate, AMFT
San Francisco, CA 94114
As a member of the Bay Area Couples Collective, I specialize in working with couples and individuals who are experiencing challenges in relationships of all kinds. We’ll utilize EFT (Emotionally Focused Therapy) to assess what is coming up in session and to discover what is happening underneath the words and behaviors. We’ll work toward a deeper understanding of your histories, your relationship dynamics, and your attachment tendencies. We’ll also cultivate new ways of reflecting, communicating, and connecting that align with your individual values and goals.
As a member of the Bay Area Couples Collective, I specialize in working with couples and individuals who are experiencing challenges in relationships of all kinds. We’ll utilize EFT (Emotionally Focused Therapy) to assess what is coming up in session and to discover what is happening underneath the words and behaviors. We’ll work toward a deeper understanding of your histories, your relationship dynamics, and your attachment tendencies. We’ll also cultivate new ways of reflecting, communicating, and connecting that align with your individual values and goals.
(628) 209-0748 View (628) 209-0748
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Fox Eros
Marriage & Family Therapist, MA, LMFT
5 Endorsed
San Francisco, CA 94102
Hello, my name is Fox Eros and I have a passion for working with queer / LGBTQ+ identified clients, polyamory and I am a sex-positive Sex Therapist. I also work with topics on intimacy, loss, self-worth, shame & stress; and all relationships styles from monogamy, open relationships & CNM non-monogamy. I am an inclusive affirming Therapist who brings warmth & compassion to my work. I believe deeply in the power and responsibility of being a therapist. Providing a safe affirming space for healing and growth is not just my priority— it is the foundation of how I honor and advocate for wellness.
Hello, my name is Fox Eros and I have a passion for working with queer / LGBTQ+ identified clients, polyamory and I am a sex-positive Sex Therapist. I also work with topics on intimacy, loss, self-worth, shame & stress; and all relationships styles from monogamy, open relationships & CNM non-monogamy. I am an inclusive affirming Therapist who brings warmth & compassion to my work. I believe deeply in the power and responsibility of being a therapist. Providing a safe affirming space for healing and growth is not just my priority— it is the foundation of how I honor and advocate for wellness.
(310) 933-4091 View (310) 933-4091
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Darrah Whitman Jones
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, MSW, LCSW
1 Endorsed
Alameda, CA 94501
I provide individual, couples, and group therapy to a wide array of individuals with varying issues they are seeking support around. I support clients in developing self-awareness, increasing self-esteem, and managing anxiety in their lives. My clients often report goals of increased feelings of life satisfaction, more fulfilling relationships, and confidence in themselves. My clients are looking to feel self-assured in their decisions and direction in life. I offer a secure, supportive environment where my client's whole selves, as well as their goals are accepted without judgement, but with curiosity and compassion.
I provide individual, couples, and group therapy to a wide array of individuals with varying issues they are seeking support around. I support clients in developing self-awareness, increasing self-esteem, and managing anxiety in their lives. My clients often report goals of increased feelings of life satisfaction, more fulfilling relationships, and confidence in themselves. My clients are looking to feel self-assured in their decisions and direction in life. I offer a secure, supportive environment where my client's whole selves, as well as their goals are accepted without judgement, but with curiosity and compassion.
(510) 949-4044 View (510) 949-4044
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Affie Ghani
Marriage & Family Therapist, MA, LMFT
1 Endorsed
Online Only
Life can feel overwhelming at times. Balancing work, relationships, family, and personal expectations can often lead to stress, anxiety, depression, or the effects of trauma. I work with individuals, couples, families, and adolescents to help them navigate these challenges while reconnecting with their resilience, sense of purpose, and inner strength. I have extensive experience supporting professionals in high-pressure environments, as well as first and second generation adult children of immigrant parents. My approach is collaborative, culturally attuned, and grounded in compassion. I provide services through telehealth.
Life can feel overwhelming at times. Balancing work, relationships, family, and personal expectations can often lead to stress, anxiety, depression, or the effects of trauma. I work with individuals, couples, families, and adolescents to help them navigate these challenges while reconnecting with their resilience, sense of purpose, and inner strength. I have extensive experience supporting professionals in high-pressure environments, as well as first and second generation adult children of immigrant parents. My approach is collaborative, culturally attuned, and grounded in compassion. I provide services through telehealth.
(818) 408-4790 View (818) 408-4790
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Marry Stuart
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, LCSW
Online Only
Do you have a desire to be the best ‘you’ that you can be? Or maybe you just need a little assistance to get through a tough time. I have experience with grief and loss, anxiety, depression, low self-esteem, and ADHD, and can assist with developing coping strategies for a variety of needs. I know that therapy can be intimidating, but you should be proud of yourself for taking this first big step. I work with individuals collaboratively to tailor therapeutic interventions for the specific needs of the person. Give me a call, and we will formulate a plan that will help you achieve your goal.
Do you have a desire to be the best ‘you’ that you can be? Or maybe you just need a little assistance to get through a tough time. I have experience with grief and loss, anxiety, depression, low self-esteem, and ADHD, and can assist with developing coping strategies for a variety of needs. I know that therapy can be intimidating, but you should be proud of yourself for taking this first big step. I work with individuals collaboratively to tailor therapeutic interventions for the specific needs of the person. Give me a call, and we will formulate a plan that will help you achieve your goal.
(510) 913-9631 View (510) 913-9631
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Matthew McKernan
Marriage & Family Therapist, LMFT
Online Only
Gestalt, Depth, Somatic, Psychodynamic, Strengths-Based, Solutions-Focused, Cognitive-Behavioral, Expressive Arts, Archetypal (Jungian) and Transpersonal approaches.
Are you struggling with experiencing high levels of anxiety, depression, and feelings of overwhelm? I am an empathic, non-judgmental, and genuinely curious therapist who draws from several creative, supportive, and deeply introspective modalities to help people address blocks, wounds, and other life challenges wisely and compassionately. My goal as a therapist is to help you become more aware of your wholeness, your inner wisdom, and inherent abilities to heal, so that you might create for yourself a life imbued with meaning, purpose, wonder, healthy relationships, and spiritual well-being.
Gestalt, Depth, Somatic, Psychodynamic, Strengths-Based, Solutions-Focused, Cognitive-Behavioral, Expressive Arts, Archetypal (Jungian) and Transpersonal approaches.
Are you struggling with experiencing high levels of anxiety, depression, and feelings of overwhelm? I am an empathic, non-judgmental, and genuinely curious therapist who draws from several creative, supportive, and deeply introspective modalities to help people address blocks, wounds, and other life challenges wisely and compassionately. My goal as a therapist is to help you become more aware of your wholeness, your inner wisdom, and inherent abilities to heal, so that you might create for yourself a life imbued with meaning, purpose, wonder, healthy relationships, and spiritual well-being.
(510) 369-1672 View (510) 369-1672
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Asha Borgir
Marriage & Family Therapist, MA, MFT
Berkeley, CA 94703
I welcome those into my practice who are struggling with a range of issues, including depression, anxiety, and PTSD. I am trauma-informed, with twenty years of experience working with adults, children and families. I have worked with adults and teens who have come to seek treatment for various types of developmental traumas such as childhood physical and sexual abuse, neglect, as well as single incident trauma. I welcome anyone who is looking to create a safe working alliance through which to explore issues with boundaries and self care, whereby I can assist you in the cultivation of a compassionate inner awareness.
I welcome those into my practice who are struggling with a range of issues, including depression, anxiety, and PTSD. I am trauma-informed, with twenty years of experience working with adults, children and families. I have worked with adults and teens who have come to seek treatment for various types of developmental traumas such as childhood physical and sexual abuse, neglect, as well as single incident trauma. I welcome anyone who is looking to create a safe working alliance through which to explore issues with boundaries and self care, whereby I can assist you in the cultivation of a compassionate inner awareness.
(510) 488-6569 View (510) 488-6569
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Kristian Miranda
Marriage & Family Therapist, LMFT
Online Only
Kristian works from a collaborative, client-centered approach; Kristian uses a blend of evidence-based treatments, including psychodynamic therapy, cognitive behavioral therapy, dialectical behavior therapy, family therapy, and mindfulness-based interventions.
Kristian works from a collaborative, client-centered approach; Kristian uses a blend of evidence-based treatments, including psychodynamic therapy, cognitive behavioral therapy, dialectical behavior therapy, family therapy, and mindfulness-based interventions.
(720) 580-5366 View (720) 580-5366
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East Bay Art Therapy
Art Therapist, MPS, ATR-BC, LCAT, ATCS
6 Endorsed
Oakland, CA 94610
Have you always felt like a square peg in a round hole? Does the world not feel safe to just be you? Or maybe it's your child that's not getting anywhere in talk therapy because they just don't feel like talking? Art Therapy may be the answer! We help you gain a new perspective and see your problems with fresh eyes. The creative process is a powerful form of expression enabling you to release the tension and stress in your body, look at the tangible object you created, and learn about yourself on a deeper level. It is this insight that empowers you to step into the the most authentic version of yourself and live your best life!
Have you always felt like a square peg in a round hole? Does the world not feel safe to just be you? Or maybe it's your child that's not getting anywhere in talk therapy because they just don't feel like talking? Art Therapy may be the answer! We help you gain a new perspective and see your problems with fresh eyes. The creative process is a powerful form of expression enabling you to release the tension and stress in your body, look at the tangible object you created, and learn about yourself on a deeper level. It is this insight that empowers you to step into the the most authentic version of yourself and live your best life!
(510) 350-3061 View (510) 350-3061
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Donna Angel
Marriage & Family Therapist, LMFT
Online Only
Hello and welcome to my page! My name is Donna Angel, and I am a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist (LMFT). I specialize in self-love, self-compassion, depression, anxiety, body image issues, eating disorders, addiction, and mindfulness. It is my passion and joy to work with individuals and families seeking to improve their emotional well-being and live a fulfilling life. I take great pride in being a warm and personable therapist. I understand that seeking therapy can be a difficult decision, and my approach is one of empathy and understanding.
Hello and welcome to my page! My name is Donna Angel, and I am a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist (LMFT). I specialize in self-love, self-compassion, depression, anxiety, body image issues, eating disorders, addiction, and mindfulness. It is my passion and joy to work with individuals and families seeking to improve their emotional well-being and live a fulfilling life. I take great pride in being a warm and personable therapist. I understand that seeking therapy can be a difficult decision, and my approach is one of empathy and understanding.
(559) 337-3260 View (559) 337-3260

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Gestalt Therapists
What is gestalt therapy?
Gestalt therapy is based on the idea that to address unresolved negative feelings, emotions must be not only discussed but also actively expressed in the present moment. The term is from a German word meaning “whole,” and gestalt therapists believe that people should be considered whole entities made up of mind, body, and emotions. Gestalt sessions are rooted in the notion that a client’s total self must be discovered, explored, and confronted, so that they can take greater responsibility for themselves and their behavior, learn to satisfy their own needs while still respecting the needs of others, and reconnect with feelings they might otherwise deny.

How does gestalt therapy work?
Gestalt therapy sessions do not just involve talking with a therapist. Clients may take part in role-playing, re-enactment, or artistic exercises like drawing and painting, with the goal of becoming more aware of negative thought patterns that limit happiness. One common gestalt exercise is “the empty chair,” in which a client sits across from an empty chair representing a partner, relative, boss, or a part of themselves—and, with the therapist’s encouragement, improvises a dialog with it. The intention is to bring the emotions raised by past conflicts into the present and work through them in the moment.

How long does gestalt therapy last?
As with most forms of talk therapy, there is no set duration or end point for gestalt therapy; people who believe that they are making progress typically continue until they feel they’ve addressed the issues that had been holding them back. New patients should understand that it may take some time to become comfortable with gestalt exercises but once they do, they should expect sessions to extend for a number of months, typically spanning at least 12 sessions.

Does gestalt therapy work?
Gestalt therapy has generally been found to be as effective as other forms of talk therapy in helping people living with anxiety, depression, phobias, bipolar disorder, and substance use disorders, as well as helping individuals reduce conflict in relationships. Gestalt techniques, on their own or in combination with other therapies, can also be effective in managing physical ailments including ulcerative colitis, migraines, and back spasms. It should be noted that some people may have trouble adapting to gestalt therapy’s lack of formal structure or to a therapist’s close observations of their body language and emotions; others may struggle to commit to techniques that feel unnatural, like the empty chair exercise.