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Douglas Kitchen
Marriage & Family Therapist, LMFT
Verified Verified
Silverado, CA 92676
Douglas is a native Californian. He received his Masters in Counseling Psychology from California Baptist University. Since 2009, Douglas has been a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist (LMFT) working in a variety of community and private settings. His approach to therapy is a to identify the obstacles in a persons or couples life journey but to focus on their solutions that will assist in meeting the goals desired. In treatment, his theoretical preference is Cognitive-Behavioral Therapy, Solution-Focused Therapy, Dialectical-Behavioral Therapy.
Douglas is a native Californian. He received his Masters in Counseling Psychology from California Baptist University. Since 2009, Douglas has been a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist (LMFT) working in a variety of community and private settings. His approach to therapy is a to identify the obstacles in a persons or couples life journey but to focus on their solutions that will assist in meeting the goals desired. In treatment, his theoretical preference is Cognitive-Behavioral Therapy, Solution-Focused Therapy, Dialectical-Behavioral Therapy.
(951) 724-4861 View (951) 724-4861
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LifeStance Health
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, LCSW
Verified Verified
Silverado, CA 92676
Making your first appointment can be one of the most challenging steps in your mental health journey. At LifeStance, we make it simple by offering both online and in-person therapy and psychiatry services, covered by major insurance plans.
Making your first appointment can be one of the most challenging steps in your mental health journey. At LifeStance, we make it simple by offering both online and in-person therapy and psychiatry services, covered by major insurance plans.
(844) 701-0498 View (844) 701-0498
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Jessie Wilson
Marriage & Family Therapist, MA, LMFT
Verified Verified
Silverado, CA 92676
Jessie Wilson is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist in Tennessee who has been practicing since 2019. She has a BA in Psychology from Simpson University and an MA in Marriage and Family Therapy from National University. Jessie has worked in the field for more than 16 years. The first 15 were spent working in the trauma realm assisting with reunification of children that had been removed from their parents. During this time not only was Jessie able to work with the children and foster parents, but also the biological parents. It was a very holistic setting and a great way to really see some growth and progress with all.
Jessie Wilson is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist in Tennessee who has been practicing since 2019. She has a BA in Psychology from Simpson University and an MA in Marriage and Family Therapy from National University. Jessie has worked in the field for more than 16 years. The first 15 were spent working in the trauma realm assisting with reunification of children that had been removed from their parents. During this time not only was Jessie able to work with the children and foster parents, but also the biological parents. It was a very holistic setting and a great way to really see some growth and progress with all.
(951) 476-1925 View (951) 476-1925
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Megan Urquidi
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, MSW, LCSW
Verified Verified
Silverado, CA 92676
Megan Urquidi is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker in California who has been practicing since 2019. Megan provides a non-judgmental and authentic space for clients, so they feel comfortable being themselves. Megan utilizes a client centered approach, which assists with each client feeling that they can discuss anything and everything. Outside of work, Megan loves to draw and do embroidery. She taught herself to play the ukulele and loves to sing. She enjoys going to concerts and spending time with her loved ones. She also loves to read, play video games, and enjoy restful days with her partner and their fur babies.
Megan Urquidi is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker in California who has been practicing since 2019. Megan provides a non-judgmental and authentic space for clients, so they feel comfortable being themselves. Megan utilizes a client centered approach, which assists with each client feeling that they can discuss anything and everything. Outside of work, Megan loves to draw and do embroidery. She taught herself to play the ukulele and loves to sing. She enjoys going to concerts and spending time with her loved ones. She also loves to read, play video games, and enjoy restful days with her partner and their fur babies.
(951) 561-4022 View (951) 561-4022
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Eric Burnell
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, MSW, LCSW
Verified Verified
Silverado, CA 92676
Eric Burnell is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker in California who has been practicing since 2013. He earned his Bachelor of Science in Criminal Justice from California State University of Long Beach. Shortly after, he returned to California State University Long Beach and earned a Master of Social Work (MSW) Degree. Clients can expect a compassionate and non-judgmental approach from Eric. His goal is to create a safe and supportive environment where you can explore your thoughts, feelings, and experiences.
Eric Burnell is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker in California who has been practicing since 2013. He earned his Bachelor of Science in Criminal Justice from California State University of Long Beach. Shortly after, he returned to California State University Long Beach and earned a Master of Social Work (MSW) Degree. Clients can expect a compassionate and non-judgmental approach from Eric. His goal is to create a safe and supportive environment where you can explore your thoughts, feelings, and experiences.
(951) 717-4426 View (951) 717-4426
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Lisa Sienkiewicz
Marriage & Family Therapist Associate, LMFT
Verified Verified
Silverado, CA 92676
Lisa Sienkiewicz is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist in California who has been practicing since 2013. She has a Master of Arts in Counseling Psychology and a Bachelor of Arts in Film Studies. Lisa's philosophy is to meet clients where they are and build therapeutic alliance through unconditional positive regard. In her free time, Lisa enjoys yoga, spending time with family, taking walks, movies, and creating decorations for her home for the holidays.
Lisa Sienkiewicz is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist in California who has been practicing since 2013. She has a Master of Arts in Counseling Psychology and a Bachelor of Arts in Film Studies. Lisa's philosophy is to meet clients where they are and build therapeutic alliance through unconditional positive regard. In her free time, Lisa enjoys yoga, spending time with family, taking walks, movies, and creating decorations for her home for the holidays.
(951) 494-4251 View (951) 494-4251
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Lori Baber
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, LCSW
Verified Verified
Silverado, CA 92676
Hello, I'm Lori Baber! I graduated from the University of Southern California with my Masters of Social Work, and I am a California Licensed Clinical Social Worker. I also hold Certificates in Sexual Health and Sex Therapy from the University of Michigan. I have been providing therapy/counseling services to individuals, families, and groups for more than eleven years. I have experience working with depression, anxiety, cancer, multiple health diagnoses, trauma, sexual health, body image, grief/grieving and many other types of concerns that are impacting the lives of the people that seek my services.
Hello, I'm Lori Baber! I graduated from the University of Southern California with my Masters of Social Work, and I am a California Licensed Clinical Social Worker. I also hold Certificates in Sexual Health and Sex Therapy from the University of Michigan. I have been providing therapy/counseling services to individuals, families, and groups for more than eleven years. I have experience working with depression, anxiety, cancer, multiple health diagnoses, trauma, sexual health, body image, grief/grieving and many other types of concerns that are impacting the lives of the people that seek my services.
(951) 357-0821 View (951) 357-0821
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Sylvana Elali
Marriage & Family Therapist, LMFT
Verified Verified
Silverado, CA 92676
Sylvana Elali is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist who enjoys working with adolescents, parents, and adults. She earned her Masters in Counseling with emphasis in Clinical Mental Health Counseling from California State University, Fullerton in 2017. Sylvana has worked in various treatment settings including group homes, school settings, community clinics, and private practice. Sylvana is passionate about guiding her clients to find a healthy perspective of themselves and strengthen their relationships to find more balance in their lives.
Sylvana Elali is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist who enjoys working with adolescents, parents, and adults. She earned her Masters in Counseling with emphasis in Clinical Mental Health Counseling from California State University, Fullerton in 2017. Sylvana has worked in various treatment settings including group homes, school settings, community clinics, and private practice. Sylvana is passionate about guiding her clients to find a healthy perspective of themselves and strengthen their relationships to find more balance in their lives.
(951) 433-1021 View (951) 433-1021

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Amy McMichael
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Verified Verified
3 Endorsed
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To experience life fully is to fully experience a wide range of balanced emotions. However, when we experience sadness, anger, guilt, shame, depressed and/or anxious emotions, they infringe on our physical, mental, and relational well being. Psychotherapy is the key and can help to restore the balanced life. I believe having a safe and meaningful relationship with my client is the foundation of successful therapy. For this reason, I provide a safe, nurturing, and non-judgmental environment where your therapeutic process of healing and growth can take place.
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Brian Goldstein
Marriage & Family Therapist, LMFT
Verified Verified
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Julie Borden
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Verified Verified
My name is Julie Borden and I am a Licensed Clinical Social Worker (LCSW) based in Los Angeles, California and work with clients statewide via telehealth. My main areas of focus include anxiety, ADHD, grief and loss, trauma, stress management, parenting challenges, depression, and communication in relationships.My style and approach are a good fit for adults of all ages who are facing both internal and external challenges. I enjoy helping people with social anxiety build confidence and face the world with greater ease, strategizing with my ADHD clients to improve their focus and conquer overwhelm.
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Maria Hernandez
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Hello, my name is Maria Hernandez, a Licensed marriage and family therapist and I am excited that you are here today. My primary job as a psychotherapist is to assist others manage issues in life.
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Clinical Social Work/Therapist, LCSW
Verified Verified
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You feel like a fraud as a professional, looking like you have it together but really it feels like it’s all falling apart. You’re a rockstar at everything you teach others, a high achiever, successful in your field. But, if others were to see what was really happening behind closed doors, they would see your struggle to put your own words into action. You give to others, draining yourself until you have nothing left to give. Self-care is a great theory if you could only find the time. You know there’s another way but you’re not quite sure how to get there on your own. You know therapy would help but it’s difficult to make it fit.
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MA, MBA, AMFT, EMDR
Verified Verified
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Michelle Caron
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Tiana Rogachevsky
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Verified Verified
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Heidi Overbey
Marriage & Family Therapist, LMFT
Verified Verified
Online Only
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Number of Therapists in 92676

< 10

Therapists in 92676 who prioritize treating:

100% Depression
100% Anxiety
88% Trauma and PTSD
75% Life Transitions
63% Relationship Issues
63% Child
63% Grief

Top 3 insurances accepted

100% Aetna
100% Cigna and Evernorth
100% Magellan

How Therapists in 92676 see their clients

100% In Person and Online

Gender breakdown

72% Female
28% Male
FAQs - About Therapy and Counseling

How can I find a therapist in 92676?

Search for nearby therapists or counselors by inputting your city, town, or suburb; or zip code; or a provider’s name into the search bar. From there, you can filter providers by the issues they treat, cost, insurance, gender, and other factors to find providers who are well-suited to your needs. To navigate between locations within the same country, enter a new city or zip code into the search bar.

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Is everyone in the Psychology Today Therapy Directory a licensed therapist?

The Psychology Today directory lists providers who offer legitimate mental health services to the public, including psychologists, psychiatrists, social workers, and counselors.

Many have been licensed by the country or state where they practice; providers whose license or primary credential has been verified by Psychology Today are signified by a “Verified” symbol. Some clinicians or organizations provide services for which their state or country does not offer licenses, such as pastoral counseling. They may be selectively included without the “Verified” seal.

What’s the difference between a psychologist, a therapist, and a counselor?

Therapists, psychologists, and counselors are all licensed mental health professionals. In the US, psychologists have earned a doctoral degree. The terms “therapist” and “counselor” are used somewhat interchangeably, but generally therapists offer longer-term, mental health care, while counselors offer shorter-term care that may focus on one domain, such as marriage, career, or academic challenges.

Clients should consider factors such as insurance coverage and their primary reason(s) for seeking therapy to determine the type of professional best suited to their needs. Someone struggling with mental health challenges such as depression or anxiety, for example, may wish to seek out a clinical psychologist or therapist, while someone navigating career obstacles or marital upheaval may benefit from seeing a counselor who can offer short-term, targeted support.

What type of therapy is right for me?

The type of therapy best suited to a particular individual depends on several factors, including their primary reason for seeking therapy, their preferred timeline (some therapy types last for a set number of sessions, while others are open-ended), and their personality and preferences—some may prefer a more structured approach. For many individuals, multiple types of therapy could provide a good fit.

How much does therapy cost?

The cost of therapy depends on a number of variables, including location and the therapist’s experience and training. On average, a therapy session in the United States could cost between $100 and $200 or more. If you have insurance, the expense of mental health care is typically lower, but it varies based on your insurance plan details and whether you choose an in-network or out-of-network mental healthcare provider.

What are more affordable or low cost therapy solutions?

Many therapists offer sliding scale payments, usually on a limited number of slots, which consists in an agreement between the therapist and a client to pay a reduced rate. Therapists who provide such arrangements often consider the client's income or ability to pay, but the extent of the discount is ultimately at the therapist's discretion. Furthermore, while group therapy may have different goals and benefits compared to individual therapy, it can be a more affordable solution to address certain types of issues.

Is online therapy cheaper than in-person therapy?

Many therapists charge the same amount for online therapy as they do for in-person therapy—though clients may still find this cost-effective if it cuts down on their transportation costs. Health insurance plans often offer equivalent coverage for online and in-person therapy; indeed, in many places, they are legally required to do so. Text-based or on-demand therapy apps may be cheaper than traditional one-on-one psychotherapy; however, the practice may be less effective and is not likely to be covered by insurance.

Is online therapy a good option?

Therapy conducted online can be just as effective as in-person therapy, as long as there is a strong alliance between the client and the therapist. To find a therapist who provides telehealth services to clients in your area, click “Online Therapy” on the directory homepage and search by your city or town or your zip code.

Are therapy sessions confidential?

Confidentiality is a crucial part of the therapeutic relationship. Therapists in the United States are bound by the regulations set out by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), which aims to protect sensitive health information. With very few exceptions, a therapist will only discuss their client with others when the client has given their written permission. The instances in which a therapist would be required to disclose personal information are: if a client poses a danger to themselves or others, if the therapist suspects the abuse of a child or an elderly or otherwise dependent adult, or if they are legally forced to by court order. These exceptions to the confidentiality agreement are usually discussed with a client before their first session.