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It seems fair enough - I guess I wonder about your clear (which you sometimes retreat from by suggesting there are pre-addictive but problematic usage patterns) demarcation of "addictive" - "non-addictive." For example, your labeling alcohol as addictive among 15% of cases runs into some conceptual complications when contemplating the discussion of "Alcoholism isn't what it used to be" at the NIAAA Web site (or my modest article in the Sept. PT).
A realistic concern for recreational users of marijuana is whether or not they will become addicted. There are no easy answers to this question. In my opinion, the most unbiased book on this and other related topics is The Science of Marijuana (2008). The Science of Marijuana is written by Leslie L. Iverson, a professor of pharmacology at the University of Cambridge in England. In the book, he reviews decades of international research on marijuana, both laboratory research and survey research. Based on his review of the scientific literature, between 10 to 30% of regular users will develop dependency. Only about 9% will have a serious addiction. For an excellent post on the biology of marijuana addiction see http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/all-about-addiction/201001/is-marijuana-addictive-you-can-bet-your-heroin
The large majority of people who try marijuana do it experimentally and never become addicted. Unlike other substances, pot has very few severe withdrawal symptoms and most people can quit rather easily. When present, withdrawal symptoms might include: anxiety, depression, nausea, sleep disturbances and GI problems.
Compared to other substances, marijuana is not very addicting. It is estimated that 32% of tobacco users will become addicted, 23% of heroin users, 17% of cocaine users, and 15% of alcohol users. Cocaine and heroin are more physically harmful and nicotine is much more addictive. It is much harder to quit smoking cigarettes than it is to quit smoking pot.
Recreational users of the past are often compared to todays smokers. The smokers, the times and the pot are all different. According to Iversen, marijuana became widely used in the US during the 1960s by Vietnam vets. This was a time of social upheaval and strong anti-war sentiment. Youth were rebellious and experimental pot smokers. Today's youth are different. They are mainstream. Interestingly, many of today's young smokers are children of the previous generation of smokers. And, my generation of marijuana smokers quit relatively easily when they became parents and homeowners.
It is often said that today's pot is stronger. I am not sure how anybody could know this. Readers, if you know please tell me. Are there studies comparing THC content of 1970 pot with 2010 pot? How could this even be possible on a large scale? Does somebody still have some 1970 pot sitting around or are we relying on old memories? The only thing that I can surmise is that the marijuana that is carefully cultivated indoors these days is more potent than previous strains. In fact, this brings to mind one of my greatest frustrations. In California, small amounts of marijuana are legal for people with 215 cards but it is not regulated. So, how does anybody know how much THC they are smoking? Do they even know where it was grown and how much pesticide it contains? For example, when I buy Advil in the supermarket, I know that I am getting 200 mg capsules.
In spite of different strains of marijuana containing different amounts of THC, experienced smokers are able to control their high. An interesting study reported in Iversen's book claims that regular users know how to inhale in a way that regulates THC content. A study was conducted where experienced smokers were given joints with either 1% or 4% levels of THC. The subjects were blind to experimental conditions so they didn't know the THC content of the joint. Without knowing which joint they were smoking, the smokers automatically adjusted their inhaling to reach about the same degree of high and THC absorption. They did this by taking longer and harder draws on the weaker joint and breathing in more air with the more potent joint.
So, to wrap up, is marijuana addictive? For most people, no. About 10% of recreational users will develop problems serve enough to impair their work and relationships. Many more will come to depend on pot for relaxation and social purposes. This will be problematic if they don't learn more effective coping mechanisms and come to rely on marijuana instead of solving their problems. When ready, most people will be able to quit with only mild withdrawal symptoms. And, compared to other recreational drugs, marijuana is relatively harmless. But, it is not completely harmless. And...what is more serious than its addictive consequences are the legal ones. This relatively harmless herbal plant is unregulated and illegal in the U.S.
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Submitted by Jann Gumbiner Ph.D. on December 6, 2010 - 1:17pm
Hi, Yes. I am always interested in your work and your ideas. I will follow this up. Thanks for reading.
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marijuana addictiveness and strength compared to the 1970s
Submitted by Tad Brunton on December 28, 2015 - 12:26pm
Hi Doctor, I enjoyed your article and I wanted to comment on a couple of things. You asked how anyone knows that today's pot is stronger than in 1970. Simple answer, only the leaves were smoked in 1970 and today, basically only the buds are smoked, which contain the highest levels of THC in the whole plant. THC is the psychoactive element in the pot plant. Also, you said you "know" that your Advil from the store has 200 mg of the active ingredient in each capsule. i believe you might want to say that you "believe" that each capsule has that amount in it, unless you have done laboratory tests on each capsule. You only believe what you are told by the pharmaceutical company who manufactures the Advil - you don't know. Anyway, nice article. Thanks. Tad
Pot strength then and now
Submitted by Mark on February 2, 2020 - 6:10am
I'd like to reply to Tad Brunton's claim that in 1970 people only smoked marijuana leaves (less THC), whereas today they smoke only the more potent buds (more THC). How to measure the accuracy of this claim is the real question, but I can tell you that I was alive and smoking weed in 1970 in California and this was not my experience at all. Bags of weed then were typically a mixture of buds and leaves, no stems, and I think the main reason was because this type of mixture made rolling joints easier than if you just had a bag of buds which then need to be broken up to be rollable. But people knew the buds were stronger, stinkier, and more desirable.
Increasing potency of marijuana
Submitted by Dale Pekar on March 31, 2018 - 4:59am
NIDA's Drug Facts article of February 2018 references the following study for their claim that marijuana potency is increasing.
Mehmedic Z, Chandra S, Slade D, et al. Potency trends of Δ9-THC and other cannabinoids in confiscated cannabis preparations from 1993 to 2008. J Forensic Sci. 2010;55(5):1209-1217. doi:10.1111/j.1556-4029.2010.01441.x.
Is Marijuana more potent now?
Submitted by Rita Coleman on July 21, 2014 - 6:28am
I enjoyed reading your article Joan. I enjoyed reading it, it made me laugh until I cried. No I am not a pot head, nor was I smoking marijuana at the time. The comment you made as to weather marijuana was stronger today, as it was in the 70s was what made me laugh. During the 70's marijuana was genuine. It used to come from Mexico, so it was more potent. Today, it is home grown, which makes it less potent, therefore they (the users) have to add other substances such as cocaine, crack, or other dangerous chemicals in order for the user to get high. This I believe is what makes it addictive and more dangerous. Yes I was one of those users in the 70's, but when they started mixing it with crack cocaine, during the 80'd I quit with no problems. Thank you for your article.
Are you serious?
Submitted by Rob Jones on July 21, 2015 - 7:14am
Are you kidding? Weed is as much as 4 times as potent as it was in the 1970's. This information comes from labs that tested the THC potency then and now. Also, home-grown marijuana is no less potent than that grow in indistrial grow houses. It strictly depends on the grow methods used. Also, who has told you uses mix the weed with other drugs? While the lacing of weed happens, this is not a common practice to get the user "more high".
strong weed
Submitted by ihj on September 12, 2016 - 12:14pm
You have absolutely no idea what you are saying. Mexican weed of 1960's compared to the USA grown today is like comparing MD2020 to a great bottle of Pomerol. Sure they are both wine but that is where the similarity stops.
Pot strength then and now
Submitted by Mark on February 2, 2020 - 6:20am
I'd like to reply to Rita Coleman's absurd statements regarding pot strength then and now. Either she's just a fool or she was only trying to be funny. She says that in the 70s pot "was genuine" because "it came from Mexico" and that now "it is home grown, which makes it less potent"... are you serious? This is just silly. "Genuine" weed? To say that weed from Mexico is somehow more potent than weed that is "home grown" is crying out for an explanation. It's laughable. I guess Rita doesn't know that in the 70s a lot of US weed was grown in the US, particularly Northern California. Growing pot is not rocket science. It's a plant. Whether grown in Mexico, or New Hampshire, at home or at a farm or in the woods... I don't think anyone really needs convincing here. And the insane comment Rita makes about home growers needing to "add other substances such as cocaine..." to their weed is simply false. Nice try.
different brains, different reactions
Submitted by Mary Sojourner M.A on December 6, 2010 - 1:08pm
I saw a beloved partner shatter into psychotic episodes from what had been recreational firing up a bowl. I walk with one of my dearest friends as he battles marijuana addiction. It may be important to consider that marijuana, like mescaline and other hallucinogenic substances, is regarded as a Holy Plant in some indigenous cultures - to be used for vision and learning. In those cases, people are warned that using it habitually will not only destroy its sacredness, but bring them into danger.
Dangers of marijuana
Submitted by Mark on February 2, 2020 - 6:58am
I'd like to reply to Mary Sojourner's comments relating to her story of a friend's experiences with weed. People need to be very careful when extrapolating based on singular experiences or incidents and trying to draw wider conclusions based on them. My brother likes to tell about the time he swerved to avoid hitting a dog while driving his truck and in so doing, drove into a fence, with a fence post going through the windshield above the steering wheel. "Had I been wearing my seatbelt, I would have been killed, but I wasn't wearing a seatbelt so I was thrown to the other side of the car during the crash and am alive today. This is why I don't wear seatbelts." Similarly, some swimmers have been bitten by sharks while at the beach, but do we want to conclude then that swimming in the ocean will result in shark attacks, or do we recognize instead that this is a very rare occurrence? This is why scientific studies use high volumes of samples - to be able to recognize what is going to happen, what is likely to happen and what is merely possible. An extremely small percentage of people may have a severe reaction to marijuana, just as there are people who can die from a bee sting. And yes, indigenous cultures have and continue to use many natural substances, including marijuana, for spiritual enlightenment. But it is important to understand the reasons behind warnings related to the use of these drugs as they relate to these rituals. Firstly, just as in other religious practices around the world, there are typically figureheads or religious authorities, such as priests, who play a special role and tend to control the rituals, which may include warnings about who may conduct them which may be at least in part to protect their power and special status as much as it is to reduce "dangers" of participation. We know that among the various plants used, marijuana is among the least potent, and among the least psychoactive, with mushrooms, for example, having a much stronger effect on the participants. Cautioning against recreational use has more meaning when considering the difference in potency between the available substances. Additionally, the shamanic or spiritual ritualistic use of these substances obviously is a far cry from what is commonly referred to as recreational drug use today, whereby, although there are people using these drugs in a very thoughtful and concentrated purpose, the majority of people just "get high" for fun, and that kind of behaviour is certainly deserving of caution. However, it goes without saying that people are also well-advised to use caution when drinking alcohol, or even to simply abstain if they want to be on the safe side. There is a matter of degree of caution here that is directly related to the strength or range of potential reactions to what we can very generally call "drug use" that has to be considered when making statements about what people should or shouldn't do, especially when these warnings are based on extremely limited anecdotal evidence.
Thank you
Submitted by Jann Gumbiner Ph.D. on December 6, 2010 - 1:19pm
Thank you. You make a very important point and suggest a post I should write on the sacred nature of these plants and their dangers.
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Submitted by jsknow on December 6, 2010 - 3:18pm
Thanks for being open minded and looking at the honest scientific facts instead of blindly parroting the anti-marijuana propaganda promoted by our Government and many corporations that see marijuana as unwanted competition for their lower quality, often toxic and very often far more environmentally harmful products.
As a PhD, I’m sure you’re aware that about 10% of the population has an addictive personality and they’re going to get addicted to something over the course of their life, whether it be food, sex, marijuana or something else they like. It’s interesting to note that 10% or so of marijuana users are said to become addicted in almost every credible study. To me that says marijuana is not addictive at all but rather, human nature dictates that 10% of marijuana users, or users of any other substance they like, are going to get addicted.
Marijuana was actually introduced to the USA as a so called "recreational drug" at least as early as the beginning of the 1900’s by migrant Mexican farm workers, hence the earliest prohibition of marijuana being well documented as a racial tool against Mexicans. The first law prohibiting marijuana use as a drug was a little known 1913 CA law and marijuana was prohibited nationally in 1937. The earliest English settlers are well known to widely use hemp for a variety of purposes. George Washington and Thomas Jefferson both grew hemp and the very first hemp law in the USA was actually a law requiring farmers to grow it. You could even pay your taxes with hemp in the early USA. The founders of this Country using marijuana as a recreational drug is not well documented but its early use as a medicine is. There was a document written by George Washington, in which he talked about separating his male and female hemp plants. Since the female plant, when denied pollination, provides the strongest THC content, it’s hard to imagine why he was separating female plants unless he was interested in using them as a drug.
The recent stronger THC content is most commonly documented by tests done by law enforcement over the last few decades using confiscated marijuana. Stronger THC content is often cited as meaning it is more dangerous, however nothing could be further from the truth. As you noted, marijuana consumers easily regulate the effects of marijuana they desire regardless of potency. Also, marijuana itself is nontoxic. Marijuana is kind of like coffee, once you get enough, you stop using it for a while. The only possibly toxic result of marijuana comes from the carcinogens produced when marijuana is burned. More potent pot equals SAFER pot because less smoke is inhaled. Marijuana can also be eaten, vaporized or made into tea, all of which completely eliminate the need to burn marijuana, although smoking it is the most common way it is consumed. It’s worth noting that many studies have shown NO increased risk of cancer or any other serious health risks even from smoking marijuana and that marijuana contains substances which have actually shown to inhibit (possibly prevent) cancer and many other ailments, hence its popularity as a safe effective medicine for a wide range of ailments both severe and mild.
I don’t think marijuana use actually causes people to develop problems serve enough to impair their work and relationships. Over many years I have seen hundreds of marijuana consumers in every walk of life from Dr.’s to construction workers to professional drivers use marijuana while working and I have never seen even one accident or truly harmful result. Marijuana seems to cause people to slow down a little and be a little more cautious but this most often results in safer and more efficient work, rather than any harms. That's most easily proven by many marijuana driving studies which show, unlike alcohol consumers, marijuana consumers are only SLIGHTLY impaired, they are aware they are slightly impaired and they slow down a little and are a little more cautious, resulting in absolutely no increased danger to their self or other drivers. The stigmatism of marijuana’s illegal status, the highly inflated cost of marijuana because of it being illegal and the harm from marijuana arrests all cause far more so called “marijuana related” negative effects than the use of marijuana itself.
In support of my positions I offer the following information:
Many government studies have cited the relative safety of marijuana but rather than base rational marijuana policy in science and facts, our government ignores science and facts and promotes lies and fear mongering.
On March 22, 1972 the Richard Nixon-appointed, 13-member National Commission on Marijuana and Drug Abuse recommended the decriminalization of marijuana, concluding, “[Marijuana's] relative potential for harm to the vast majority of individual users and its actual impact on society does not justify a social policy designed to seek out and firmly punish those who use it.” Richard Nixon chose to ignore the advice of this well qualified, expensive, taxpayer funded commission and start the modern escalation of criminalizing marijuana consumers. The lies he promoted have done much harm but they served his selfish motives and got him re-elected based largely on him starting the “war on drugs”, a violent unconstitutional unnecessary war against nonviolent citizens, which are no threat to their selves or society and a war on everyone’s Constitutional rights. Google: Drug War Victims.
In 1988, after reviewing all scientific evidence brought forth in a lengthy lawsuit against the government’s prohibition of medical marijuana, the DEA’s own administrative law judge (Judge Francis Young) wrote: “MARIJUANA, IN ITS NATURAL FORM, IS ONE OF THE SAFEST THERAPEUTICALLY ACTIVE SUBSTANCES KNOWN. IN STRICT MEDICAL TERMS, MARIJUANA IS SAFER THAN MANY FOODS WE COMMONLY CONSUME.”
Anyone that wants marijuana is already getting it. Legalizing and rationally regulating marijuana based on its safety vs risks is not adding another harmful intoxicant to society, legalizing gives people the legal opportunity to make the SAFER CHOICE! Alcohol, tobacco, many Rx drugs, many over the counter drugs, even caffeine, aspirin and non-aspirin, can all be deadly and are well documented as being the direct cause of hundreds of thousands of deaths in the USA every year! http://www.saferchoice.org/content/view/24/53/
No one, of any age, in all of recorded history, anywhere on planet earth, has ever died from the ingredients in marijuana and they never will, marijuana is nontoxic. Many have died from marijuana prohibition and tens of millions have been jailed or otherwise harmed. In the US we arrest someone on marijuana charges every 38 seconds. Marijuana charges account for roughly 50% of all drug arrests. Would you rather have your kid locked up with killers and child molesters or would you prefer to do your own proper parenting?
Watch this FL man that gets his marijuana from the Federal government destroy all the lies about marijuana consumers being lazy and unproductive. Watch him destroy all the lies about long term heavy marijuana use being harmful. Learn the truth about marijuana: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvzX8aNwxgM
Listen to these high ranking narcotics officers expose the harms and waste of the drug war. Learn the truth about the drug war. It is a FAILED HARMFUL UNCONSTITUTIONAL UNLAWFUL VIOLENT WAR AGAINST NONVIOLENT CITIZENS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LayaGk0TMDc
The World Health Organization Documents Failure of U.S. Drug Policies http://www.alternet.org/drugreporter/90295/
Cannabis Reduces Infant Mortality: http://www.salem-news.com/articles/june272010/marijuana-infants-sc.php This is a great example of information the drug war prohibitionists suppress every way they can. If babies are getting natural cannabis like substances in mother’s breast milk, do you still believe marijuana is harmful at any age?
If you want a good look at how far the government will go to promote its illegal anti-marijuana drug war promoting message read this: http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2000/03/31/magazines
Protestant, Catholic and Jewish Clergy Speak Out Against The War On Drugs
http://www.csdp.org/news/news/clergydvd.htm
WELL WORTH READING! Free online book: The Emperor Wears No Clothes
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Watch this documentary about marijuana curing cancer! There are 7 parts, watch them all! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjhT9282-Tw
If you doubt marijuana is good medicine read: Granny Storm Crow’s List
http://forum.grasscity.com/medical-marijuana/436257-granny-storm-crows-list-july-2009-a.html
It’s more like a library than a list!
The laws prohibiting marijuana are NOT a result of any harm from marijuana. They are the result of racism, lies and greed. Read the well documented proof of that and a lot more marijuana TRUTH in these two articles: “WHY IS MARIJUANA ILLEGAL, Pete Guither” and “MARIJUANA AND HEMP THE UNTOLD STORY, Thomas J. Bouril”, click the links to those articles on this webpage:
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Why should the government ONLY allow use of a nontoxic natural plant "after exhausting all other options"? Why should a substance that is far SAFER than aspirin ONLY be legal for those that have a serious ailment? Why should people be forced to use FDA approved poisons instead of a far safer more effective natural plant? Why should a plant that is SAFER than potatoes be regulated and taxed as if it was as dangerous as alcohol? Eating a couple of raw potatoes can give you a toxic reaction but marijuana is nontoxic. Why should people have their kids taken away from them when nontoxic marijuana is found in their home while tobacco is legal and if a baby was to eat even one tobacco cigarette the nicotine in that 1 cigarette could be fatal?
Learn how and why marijuana became illegal, follow the money and it will all make sense, then speak up and demand marijuana legalization!
Results of years of research.
Submitted by Anonymous on August 6, 2012 - 1:25pm
"I don’t think marijuana use actually causes people to develop problems serve enough to impair their work and relationships."
It's nice that you "think" this, but it clearly demonstrates that you are simply talking out your backside. My son, who is 16 years old, was introduced to marijuana two or three years ago.It has completely changed him. He was kid who was conscientious, considerate, intelligent and very expressive.After three years of use he has become a different person. He lies to everyone. He will tell you what he thinks you want to hear and then immediately engage in his next high. He is manipulative. He has become rude. He takes things that don't belong to him without asking. He picks on kids that he perceives as weak and/or uncool. My son was NONE of these things until he was introduced to marijuana use. The changes were gradual and remained in step with his increases in use. He smokes almost every day now and even keeps a vial on a lanyard around his neck for keeping his stash with him at all times. He is headed for rehab. Your assertions that this plant is not harmful are nothing more than your own wishful thinking. This "holy" plant turned my kid into an a$$hole.
With all due respect, but
Submitted by Anonymous on August 6, 2012 - 1:49pm
With all due respect, but your son is one example, and a very weak argument at that. Perhaps the fact that he is 16-years-old and going through adolescent development is the reason why he has become an "a$$hole". There are thousands of middle aged-elderly marijuana users who have used the substance everyday for their entire lives. Many of these individuals are not only responsible, sincere, and respectful citizens, but they also maintain successful careers, families, and contribute to their communities. I am sorry for your troubles with your son, but please do your research before lashing out ignorant and poorly educated insults. Thank you.
Bad Example
Submitted by Vida Starr on August 6, 2012 - 7:56pm
I don't think your son is a very good example. None of the issues you say that your son has is even remotely tied to marijuana. In all honesty, it sounds like your son is dealing with something emotionally (maybe even psychologically)that is going unaddressed. Instead of scapegoating the marijuana use, how about you talk to him and get to the real root of the problem. Picking on kids, being rude and manipulative, stealing etc... are not symptoms of marijuana use... Weed doesn't make you steal or lie. If he started drinking wine, would you have drawn the conclusion that wine makes him steal and lie? Probably not because that would be pretty illogical.
The only true test of your
Submitted by Dave on September 4, 2012 - 2:15pm
The only true test of your theory is to get your son to stop using for a month. Offer him a motivational reward (like money) if he passes a drug test after 40 days. If he changes and turns his life around, your theory may have been correct. In any event, chances are he will not return to his old ways. If he is still a jerk, you at least know you need to look elsewhere to help him. It sounds like he needs help and it would be sad if you ignored other options because you believe it is caused solely by his Pot use.
You are simply wrong
Submitted by Anonymous on November 12, 2013 - 4:54am
I had a very happy childhood, up until i started smoking (grade 8) I had straight A's and was on three sports teams a year and was generally considered a funny and nice kid.. Gradually my pot usage increased as the years went by.. I spent my summers in high school training basketball overseas and always came back a much better player but during the school year even though I had enjoyed some success I only got marginally better.. At the time I knew this was because of smoking weed, I knew that it made me lazy.. Playing with the best players in the city and touring the AAU circuit i was exposed to the best competitive amateur basketball North America had to offer.. I saw how hard my peers were working but I could never achieve that level of dedication because WEED MAKES (SOME) PEOPLE LAZY! My goal was to get a scholarship and I had all the physical gifts needed as well as the IQ and a knack for accuracy from long range.. The best coaches in the city believed in me at a certain point, some of the best players truly respected me.. One of the biggest mistakes I made was staying in the city to "train" my last two highschool summers.. I ended up partying a lot more than training and my addiction - still hiding from me - became worse.. A student-athlete is a student first and my marks had become abysmal.. no marks, no scholarship.. By the end of grade 12 it was obvious to everyone in the basketball sphere that I was no longer a product, my confidence on the court was shot and the same players I was once better than were playing 25 min + a game while I watched from left bench.. It only fueled my addiction, it was easier to rip a bowl and forget than to go to the gym and train a sport (that deep down i still loved) that was making me miserable.. The summer after grade 12 I felt like a weight had been lifted off my shoulders, I gave up on basketball.. My addiction to marijuana hit new heights and I was fully immersed in the party pop culture.. Many fun nights, many memories, many things to make you forget about your problems.. I didnt even graduate, september rolls around and all my peers are going to University while I convinced my parents to enroll me in a "private" school (pay for my grades).. I attended the school with my best friend (who had a similar fate in his amateur sports career and saw similar aspirations evaporate because of weed).. We had learned nothing and smoked on a daily basis at that school and had an awesome time while we somehow magically recieved 90+ avgs. The following year I attended university to study chemical engineering (family of engineers) but my weed habits that year reached feverish heights.. the stress of school was something i was not mentally strong enough to handle and weed was my escape route more than ever.. other than some occasional strong performances on exams that i studied hard for, i had failed a lot.. by the end of that year I was put on 1 year mandatory absence from the program.. when that letter came in, once again just like with basketball i had said, "fuck it all" and started to smoke even more weed just to forget my failures.. You see, I have a certain image, tall, good-looking, model girlfriend, smart, funny, etc.. (not to toot my own horn, i just know this to be somewhat true) I am still waiting to get back into school and in my ethnic local community secrets cannot exist, everyone knows my problems now.. but my circle of friends still think i am studying engineering in my second year.. It is a horrible way to live and i agree with the mother about her 16 year old.. weed made me very manipulative and a compulsive liar.. let me correct that, as a kid I liked to lie needlessly just to see if I can get away with it, I knew it was wrong but I liked doing it.. Weed made it worse.. People who "know" me have this certain idea of me and it just isn't the true me, only a few people can say they know the real me.. Im not trying to say, "Weed made all my problems" because that is not true, I made my problems by choosing to smoke weed.. Now I torture myself with every decision I remember where instead of going to bed to wake up and train i went out and abused my parents trust by getting high, instead of going home to study I go to my friends apartment and rip bowls for 5 hours.. I am the tool here, I now have nothing except my family and (amazing) girlfriend.. I could be lightyears ahead of where I am (my brother is no longer Mr. Brother but Dr. Brother, my sister is on a similar path) but instead i am still very much struggling with weed addiction and in my basement typing this reply because i feel a strong urge to protect any other youngster from the same assumptions I heard about weed, the same assumptions you make.. FACT: teens make bad choices, FACT: teens may have an addictive personality (I do) FACT: weed CAN be addictive.. You are simply wrong and I am sadly right.. I have seen similar cases in pot culture time and time again.. its a drug thing and its sad that people profit from other people's demise.. but then again, we in North America with our cars and tvs and refrigerators benefit from the hunger and poverty of the rest of the world.. When there is demand, someone will supply and people will get exploited, whether it be the consumer or the labour and even the producer.. Capitalism at its finest, groups strongly advocating for their own wants.. The kids want weed, I just hope they realize they really don't want it before its too late
So, let me get this
Submitted by Mak Bird on March 21, 2014 - 7:19pm
So, let me get this straight... you're blaming WEED for making you a crappy basketball player in 8th grade?.... HAHAHAHAHAHA... I literally LMAO after reading this long ass story... That' got to be the dumbest reply I've heard on here. HAHAHAHA... what did you think weed was gonna make you a BETTER Basketball player???
Do you have any idea how many PROFESSIONAL ATHLETES smoke weed?... Some of them even smoke RIGHT before the game!
You made your own choice to
Submitted by Anonymous on June 6, 2014 - 6:12pm
You made your own choice to smoke. Your novel is irrelevant. You could say the same for tobacco. Haha. Go away.
You made your own choice to
Submitted by Anonymous on June 6, 2014 - 6:12pm
You made your own choice to smoke. Your novel is irrelevant. You could say the same for tobacco. Haha. Go away.
You aren't any good at
Submitted by Anonymous on June 6, 2014 - 6:24pm
You aren't any good at basketball because you smoked pot? Yeah, it's physical work. Don't smoke. Your choice. Tobacco will hinder you the same way.You will be lousy with either.
No good at homework because you're essentially taking medication that you aren't compatible with? Should've chosen adderall to focus "10%"er. Your choice. Pot can be medicinal. You abused it.
I don't smoke pot. I'm just saying that you were a failure and abused something readily available to you at the times you needed to be sober. Blame alcohol next time you screw up because that's what your drug of choice is at the time.
Sounds like a symptom, not a
Submitted by Anonymous on October 25, 2012 - 12:23pm
Sounds like a symptom, not a cause.
person to person
Submitted by Anonymous on May 27, 2013 - 10:22pm
cannabis use has actually improved my morals, though it very much depends on the person.
Cannabis
Submitted by Elizabeth on January 3, 2014 - 10:10pm
It has improved your morals, by breaking the law and smoking an illegal substance----what a crock!!
I totally agree. If you say
Submitted by Anonymous on September 2, 2013 - 10:04pm
I totally agree. If you say it isn't addictive you are as blind as you are dumb. I'm dealing with the same thing with my teenager. Same personality. One thing I haven't seen discussed is someone that is predisposed with medical problems.. Mine has ADHD/ADD. YES it is addictive and yes it is harmful!
You know nothing
Submitted by Mak Bird on March 21, 2014 - 7:08pm
The subject of your comment says "Results of years of research"... So, madame, how does watching your 16 year old son for a couple of years qualify as "years of research". I've been eating cheeseburgers since I was about 3. So, does that mean I was doing research on cheeseburgers??? Kill yourself immediately.
Maybe your son is bummed out because his mom is such a dolt.
Disagree
Submitted by Anonymous on November 28, 2012 - 4:19pm
First, sorry to be biting your head off. This is a relatively emotional topic for reasons you will read below. Also, the amount of small-mindedness people adopt when looking into the issues of marijuana is irritating. Don't
I can't speak for a 16 year old kid. What I can speak to though is that I am turning 30 in 2 months time. I have been smoking everyday pretty much for the past 5 years (have been smoking much longer, but have taken breaks for years at a time beforehand because I struggled with finding a middle-ground) with the exception of a 1 year break between mid-2011 and mid-2012. The reason for stopping was because it was ruining my life. And i didn't stop straight away. I spent 3 years spending all my "what-could-have-been-savings" on weed (smoking about 1 gram of chronic a day). I lost a lot of friends in the process because I became a recluse, stood still in my life (career didn't move forward, no new relationships), I was depressed, I knew that smoking was not moving my life forward in any way yet I found myself terrified at the thought of stopping smoking.
Anyway, in the year I stopped, after about 3 months I started finding the world interesting again. I started loving the mountains, rock climbing, being around people, being active and I started building relationships again. I then started smoking again about 6 months ago and I got straight back into the full time thing. My work has gone to shit over the past 6 months, my interests have dwindled impressively, and I find now that any activity I do is forced (oh, and the savings I had accumulated during the year of not smoking has started to be eroded) and have started falling back into depression. I have tried to stop probably 10 times since I started again yet for some reason I find myself going back to it (much like an addict would no?).
Anyway, one thing I have learned (admittedly I'm a smart guy so this may not make sense to some of you) is that people are different. And, at the same time, many people are the same. Hence, I believe that I am not alone (considering I have met many people through my smoking career that have been desperate to stop yet couldn't) and so that would suggest that many other people are, like me, addicted to marijuana.
I do appreciate though that many many people do not get addicted to the drug. But please, try not to be so publicly ignorant when you state that marijuana addiction is not real. You are welcome to argue with me and tell me I am not addicted. You would be wrong though. You clearly are not even assuming that you understand an addicts point of view, in which case, why are you even participating in the conversation. You are not doing it for the learning it seems...
I agree with your post. In
Submitted by Anonymous on June 18, 2013 - 6:25pm
I agree with your post. In my teens, I became daily user, and became a young adult smoking marijuana daily. I didn't quit until well into my 30's and realized later (when I quit) that smoking marijuana daily kept me in a state of depression. I am an introverted person and marijuana made me more withdrawn. Sure, I had some sort of social life based upon smoking, but when I quit, I had few friends because those friends I had when I was smoking, I knew only superficially and our relationship was based around pot culture (smoking pot, obtaining pot, etc). I wonder now what my 20's would've been like had I had real friends and not "pot friends." To make matters worse, I barely remember my 20's and that time almost feels like "lost time." These days when I smoke again, it tends to make me feel more withdrawn and I can tell it makes me slightly depressed. Of course, I sometimes think of smoking when I have to do hard labor or exercise, but the mental repercussions aren't worth it. Now that I'm not feeling depressed, I prefer to feel all of life.
Depressed
Submitted by Tomas on March 9, 2016 - 5:55pm
I've been introverted and depressed most of my life and have never used cannabis or nicotine. I drink moderately.
What can I blame my less than stellar life on?
Just a regular Joe
Submitted by Anonymous on August 8, 2013 - 11:53pm
I had smoked pot for many years until about 5 years ago when it became difficult to get and I have met and known at least a couple hundred people that have smoked recreational pot for many years on and off. I have yet to see any of them addicted. Many of them have easily quit with no withdrawal symptoms that I am aware of. Most of them have become outstanding and productive citizens. Many of them still smoke recreational pot. I have talked to many of them about the possibility of addiction and we all tend to agree that they are not addicted and have stopped many times without any withdrawal symptoms. As far as draining the bank account that is certainly a problem but not because of the pot but instead of the fact that it is illegal which has driven the price through the roof. If you spend all of your money on pot then I would expect you would become depressed and reclusive. That is not the effect of pot but the result of our irrational laws making it illegal. After a hard weeks work I find it much more relaxing to smoke a joint in my own home not bothering anybody else instead of drinking alcohol and going out and killing somebody or suffering a terrible headache the next morning and possibly becoming addicted. I do not recommend that pot be smoked before going to work and depending on the THC/CBD ratio which will determine if the pot is hyper or sleeper it could have a impact on performance. Also, the more one smokes pot the less effect it has. If I have not smoked for a week or longer then I can get a pretty good buzz when I smoke again but if I continue to smoke the next day and so on then the high is considerably reduced and ineffective. Also, pot is the only drug that I have found that actually remedies my restless leg syndrome at night and I have tried all sorts of prescription and over-the-counter remedies to no effect.
Excuses, excuses
Submitted by Anonymous on August 9, 2013 - 1:41pm
I do not think that everyone is saying marijuana is not addictive but instead pointing out that it is a very, VERY small percentage of users that supposedly become addicted. There are clinical case studies and real world case studies which I fall into the later. I know of at least a couple hundred marijuana users over the past 60 years of personal use and not one of them has become addicted ever. Not one of them has suffered any sort of negative affects. The only reason that any of them have been incarcerated or not been employed lucratively is because of the illegality and not effects of cannabis in itself. It's time to wake up and smell the pot and stop using it has an excuse for your failures.
It's weird that you say you
Submitted by Mak Bird on March 21, 2014 - 7:13pm
It's weird that you say you enjoyed things more OFF weed... cause I happen to enjoy things more while I'm SKY HIGH... as a matter of fact, when I'm out having fun and I'm not high... the first thing I think is "You know what would make this even more fun... WEED"
P.S. Before you point that dirty finger of yours and call me a dumb stoner... I'm actually a COMPUTER GENIUS that creates apps and I'm RICH... I probably make more money in 1 month then you make in a whole year
OWWW
Submitted by Johnnnycakes on August 9, 2015 - 3:06pm
Wow you are rich off of aps. Good job. What relevance does your worth have on the subject? LOL
I know this post is over a year old but I laughed at this one. Thanks
thank you
Submitted by Anonymous on April 9, 2017 - 12:04pm
thank you for you heartfelt remarks on how recreational use was for you. i am struggling now with leaving a man i had fallen in love with at a time he was not smoking weed. After 2 years he started using again, a little at first and after 2 more years to 24/7. hit after hit off that pipe. i do not partake. i lost him. he withdrew into himself. what hurts is he thinks he is the same.
Thanks jsknow
Submitted by Anonymous on December 8, 2010 - 10:11pm
Well said Jsknow. I have a friend who tokes upwards of 10 times a day with an average of 5 times a day. Did I mention he has been doing this for 3 years...every day? He's doing well, has a 3.6GPA (3rd year of college), and everyone he knows (including myself for a while) has no idea he's a regular smoker. Despite his dependency, he is just another good citizen. So I ask you, what harm comes from being a regular smoker? For that matter, if you're addicted to a substance but it harms you in no way and has no negative impact on your life what is the problem? Does addiction always have to be a problem?
Marijuana Addiction
Submitted by Andrew Suber on February 27, 2011 - 8:28pm
American pot wasn't as strong in the 60s and 70s because we didn't have traditional cultivation techniques and the strong varietals that you would encounter in Thailand, South Africa or India. The most potent blossoms presently would yield about 15-17% THC. My guess is that the best marijuana grown at that time would be the same.
Law enforcement is using scare tactics to demonize marijuana. It is not that much more potent now. The main advantage to growing hydroponically, for instance, is not the potency but the speed at which the plant grows when given optimal nutrition.
I have been using marijuana since my teenage years. In part, I was medicating a undiagnosed chronic unipolar depression. In my opinion, it had a neutral to slightly negative impact on my depression. Television, caffeine, poor diet, a sedentary lifestyle, alcohol, video games had a much more negative impact.
If you do use marijuana, use it in moderation. Don't use it as a crutch for your emotional problems. The real problem is that our culture provides a thousand crutches for the inevitable pain we encounter in life.
I use marijuana in such small amounts now that I don't think it alters my 'mind' but rather adjusts my mood, appetite and nausea to the same extent as a cup of coffee or a cigar. I use a vaporizer rather than smoking. I do think smoking anything is unhealthy.
Pot being stronger today
Submitted by Anonymous on May 5, 2011 - 11:09am
Pot is probably stronger now because growing it has become more scientific. Its not just throwing a couple seeds in the ground and coming back months later to some nice pot. Certain lighting, dampness, and mixtures of different types of weed make a strong or weak plant. Growers are combining different marijuana strains to make new, stronger strains. Each year there is a competition in Amsterdam called the Cannabis Cup in which judges from all around the world can sample and vote for their favorite new strain. =]
Reefer Madness
Submitted by Vida Starr on June 30, 2011 - 11:02am
THe article is decent. I really don't see how anyone came to the conclusion that pot was introduced in the 1960s by vietnam vets. The weed propaganda began much earlier than that. "Reefer Madness" was released in 1936. If pot hadn't been introduced yet, then how could they have known to make a movie about it? Just sayin...
Jsknow pretty much hit the nail on the head tho.
It is all too often that I
Submitted by Lucas Cole on September 20, 2011 - 1:58am
It is all too often that I hear people lay the claim that our understanding of genetics has so drastically improved that today's marijuana is undeniably stronger than it was twenty years ago. Frankly, this is rather hard to swallow. The fact of the matter is that there are records of recreational/medicinal marijuana use dating back as far as 2700 BCE, which means that the plant has been domesticated for nearly five thousand years (if not more). Furthermore, it grows very rapidly (approximately four months); just think about how much more information we have on evolution by studying microorganisms, as opposed to multi-cellular organisms. Why is this? It's simply because microorganisms have such short lifespans that we are able to witness evolution within a single lifetime. The same principle applies to marijuana: five thousand years, with about three harvests per year, means that human beings have had a LOT of time to figure out how to properly grow it. With this said, the notion that THC levels have magically tripled within the past twenty years borders on absurdity.
The reason that this urban legend is so popular is because it's something that both aficionados and prohibitionists of marijuana like to cite. Prohibitionists want to scare everyone into thinking that using marijuana today can/will lead to psychological problems that history is yet to encounter. Meanwhile, aficionados are so sucked up into the marijuana subculture that they like to think they are getting their hands on the best stuff around.
Maybe if someone encounters a strain called, "Monsanto Mary-Jane," then I will consider revoking everything I just wrote.
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THC/ CBD/ CBN levels
Submitted by Julia Simmone on November 22, 2011 - 10:40pm
well the technology has advanced a lot since the 70's but it all depends on the way it is grown and certain strains are known to have higher levels of certain cannabinoids ..... I personally prefer higher cbd levels because they help with my muscle disorders...... but i always enjoy a nice high thc content ....... but the way that they test the different levels and cannabinoid ratios is with gas chromatography
Cannabinoids have been tested in the past using different methods (HPLC, TLC, GC) and the aim has always been to identify quantities of different cannabinoids inside the cannabis resin. Gas chromatography (GC) is a type of chromatography in which the mobile phase is a carrier gas, usually an inert gas such as helium or an unreactive gas such as nitrogen, and the stationary phase is a microscopic layer of liquid or polymer on an inert solid support, inside a glass column. With gas chromatography the solutions travel through the column in a gas state. The interactions of these gases reacts with the walls of the column (coated by different stationary phases) and causes different compounds to isolate. The main active components in cannabis resin (THC, CBD and CBN) have been analyzed through the years, but now other cannabinoids are proving very interesting for medicinal users. So we decided to extend the testing to include the CBG, a cannabinoid used in many medicinal tests all over the globe. Cannabigerol, also known as CBG, is a non-psychoactive cannabinoid found in many strains at various concentrations. CBG is mostly useful to lower blood pressure and to alleviate glaucoma, but it is too early to rule out other beneficial effects.
http://www.francogrow.com/web2/pages/grow-area/the-green-house-test-revolution.php
but its all in the way you grow it..... yes certain strains might be more likely to be higher in CBD such as indica strains ..... its all in the say you grow and the time of harvest ..... a microscope and a good eye that knows the right time to pull can succeed in getting a high cbd strain .... oh and the drying and curing process has a lot to due with it..... the amount of light it gets the longer its cured all depends on the cannabinoid ratios/ levels
Smoking weed
Submitted by pennyo on January 11, 2012 - 10:43pm
I don't know if you become addicted to weed physically or emotionally however all you who think it should be legal and nothing is wrong with it are crazy. My brother was a daily weed smoker until he dropped out of high school, lost his car, his home, job and his relationships. My Mom was sure he was headed to jail until he met a woman that was important enough for him to quit. After quiting he got his GED, great job and then started his own company and he's an all around great person. His personality has changed so much since he quit. My niece smoked weed through high school and then went onto meth. She spent a Christmas in rehab away from her 4 year old son. She too lost her job, was in financial ruin and almost lost her son before she stopped and she would tell you going back to weed would be the beginning of a relasp. I worked with a girl that went to lunch and got high everyday. She of course was fired...her work, time missed at work and attitude showed her weed abuse. I saw her bartending after she was fired, what a waste. I work at a manufacturing company and we had a girl lose 2 fingers in a machine...the company always makes you take a drug test after an accident and she tested positive for weed of course she was fired. Another niece was married with 2 children and her husband got into weed...they are now divorced, he lost his business, rarely see's his kids, lives at his Dad's and spent Thanksgiving in jail. We just had an local situation that a few high school girls were getting high in a her car in a parking lot, when a police office approched the car she paniced and tried to drive off...she hit the police officer and then a high speed chase. This 17 year old is being tried as an adult. Almost all good companies require you to pass a drug test for employment. My bosses daughter wasn't able to get a job at her college coffee shop or the local HyVee so she's now working at Taco Bell. She was in a car accident and they found weed in the car, after testing positive she was given a DYI and possesion charge. Her life at only 20 is a mess because she can't stop smoking weed. This drug affects so many people in a negative way and for anyone to make young people rationalize a life destructive drug is irresponsible. Young people need to know how it will affect their lives in a negative way not hear how there is nothing wrong with it. People can deal with life without numbing their mind with drugs...in fact life is pretty amazing when you're clear and not dealing with the consquences drugs will bring. Please stop saying nothing is wrong with smoking weed...this drugs brings grave consequences to so many people.
um wtf?
Submitted by Anonymous on January 12, 2012 - 12:07pm
For every sob story you give and some how connected these ppl's problems to weed (And you really were stretching that)I could give you 10 ppl who smoked weed and live normal healthy lives. I could also make an argument against video games because there are ppl who are addicted to video games. So Addicted they lose their jobs and family. Does that mean video games should be illegal? You apparently surround yourself with losers if all these ppl ruined their lives from smoking weed. My brother is a very successful entrepreneur and smokes weed. My mother is a corporate lawyer and smokes weed. Most of my friends have great jobs, great homes, great families.... and they smoke weed.
Also some of your stories help to prove why marijuana should be legal. The girl who panicked when the cop came wouldn't have panicked if weed were legal. Companies couldn't deny employment to people who smoke weed... and they won't have to work at Taco Bell.
You can become addicted to
Submitted by Anonymous on January 15, 2012 - 10:11pm
You can become addicted to anything- food, nasal spray, Tylenol, cigarettes, alcohol, etc. Does that mean that all of those things should be illegal? No. People die every year from snorting paint and swallowing drain cleaner. Does that mean we should stop painting our buildings and cleaning our kitchens? No.
I'm very sorry for the bad life experiences your loved ones had to go through, but they are the only ones to blame. Yes, they were pot smokers, however, that wasn't caused their downfalls. It was their own individual personalities and genes that caused your brother to lack the motivation to finish high school or your sister to lack the self control to say no to meth. As for their criminal struggles, those are only existent because of people like you: people who blindly stigmatize marijuana on the basis of popular culture. You have never conducted nor researched a study on its actual effects on the human body.
Please, save us all your sob stories and do something productive. Make our society a better place by educating yourself and refraining from spreading bullshit.
Thank you.
Pot is not safe
Submitted by Anonymous on December 11, 2012 - 4:38am
I am a healthcare provider in Humboldt County. Daily I hear stories from people whose lives have been damaged by marijuana use. They always say they thought pot addiction was a joke until they tried to quit. They have lost relationships, jobs and self-esteem. They talk about how much better they feel when they can quit for awhile, but they always go back to it and start having the same problems again.
If pot helps pain, why do people smoke along with their pain meds? (oh wait, I can answer that. Because they become cross-addicted to both.) If it helps anxiety, why do people still have anxiety plus now they are paranoid?
This county has sold its soul to the devil over pot. It's sad to see young people dropping out of college to go into "the business" only to find themselves sad losers five years later with no future and no education, hanging out with 45 year old sad losers.
45 year old sad loser?
Submitted by Anonymous on August 9, 2013 - 2:12pm
I am a health care provider as well and have been for over 40+ years. I disagree with everything you say. I have never seen or experienced any of the things that you talk about. I am a bit livid over your biased and judgmental accusations. You are obviously misdiagnosing your patients and incorrectly demonizing and associating marijuana as the root cause when they obviously have other more serious psychological and medical issues. Everything you use to substantiate your argument is hearsay and biased conjecture. If I were to believe everything that many of my patients said then pigs would be flying and the moon would be made of cheese.
BTW, this "45 year old sad loser" has managed to own and operate a multimillion dollar business and contribute substantially to various charities including the local health care facilities. I find pot much safer, effective, and more enjoyable than alcohol and prescription pills. Oh, and I do not believe in the devil either.
So defensive? You do know
Submitted by Anonymous on December 26, 2013 - 7:25pm
So defensive? You do know that you ONE experience does NOT invalidate his observation of multiple patients?
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