A Cure for Mental Illness.

I agree, that part of the discussion is defining "cure".

The "surgery" analogy: diseased organ is surgically removed, healthy, compatible replacement organ is installed (grown from the patient's own cells) recovery period with rehab therapy = lifelong cure.

The "diabetes" analogy: disease condition requires frequent, lifelong monitoring and self-treatment by the patient. But that really isn't a "cure", its just "maintenance". Insulin therapy does not stop the diabetic process, it just manages it.

So, you are right and the success of any therapy (even current therapies) that require long-term cooperation and participation of a responsible patient is going to have only limited success.

But a "surgical" procedure or a one-time Pill that cures all, or a preventative Vaccine? That would have the most success (based on availability/price) and would truly be like a miracle.

What would a world without con-artists, rapists, murderers, and sadistic monsters be like? What if everyone had both cognitive and affective empathy? What if everyone were born with a complete, fully-functioning brain and normal intelligence? What if there were no more terrifying psychosis, no more suicide-inducing depression, no more crippling anxiety?

Would we all become bland and boring, or would we be freely and happily exploring new horizons in science, the arts, and education? Would it unleash human potential for creativity and positive evolution, or would everyone having perfect mental health turn us into a kind of ant colony?

(Are some ants born psychotic, intellectually challenged, or sadistic? Do some ants become brain-damaged and therefor a danger to the colony? If there are crazy ants, what happens to them? Have ants failed to evolve higher intelligence because they're all clones of each other and rarely if ever mutate, so no ant since the beginning of antdom has ever been mentally ill?)

It does make you wonder.

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What if the primary reason for mental illness is not in fact the individuals, but the individuals are in fact displaying entirely normal reactions to a dysfunctional civilization? In the case of MAN today the term TOXIC could be applied both on a psychological and physical level.

To make it even more interesting what if the civilization actually encourages dysfunctional behaviour, such as it is today? That can be readily witnessed in a number of areas.

You have politicized everything, even science, so what is politics but an imaginary game played out for real, with real concequences, but often not affecting the primary players but only those in subordinate positions who have sold themselves for trinkets, and are often oblivious to the larger picture.

For example, they would, and indeed have attempted to "politicize" ME, unfortunately i really couldn't give a damn about your "politics" and as the more capable military presence think you are all pretty much insane, and you have clearly stated and acted upon your desire for a more universal dominance.

To determine the cure, you must first determine the cause.

The cause of "mental illness" is too much dominance from phylogenetic structures and processes of the brain associated with survival and insufficient structures and processes associated with regulation of survival and phylogenetic impulse. This leads to dissonance, conflict and competition between brain regions and processes for dominance of the self, which in turn leads to an inconsistent and conflictual executive function.

Essentially, the brain is fighting with itself and these conflicts spill out upon environment and social and relational interactions.

It's a complex issue how the brain ends up in this conflicted state, but essentially it is associated to developmental stressors causing the development of brain regions and connections to be interrupted and derailed to the extent that the brain regions do not communicate effectively with each other to create a homogeneity of self.

Genes play a role, but only in terms of a switchboard responding to a received message from environment and experience and switching on or of a genetic response to adjust biology to better cope with the expected future environment.

Essentially, therefore, the cure for "mental illness" is to ensure a safe and nurturing developmental environment.

I don't see a treatment as the same thing as a cure.

If you believe that mental illness is a biological brain disease, then finding a magic pill would have some validity. The pill probably wouldn't teach the patient to think in healthier ways though.

But if mental illness comes from environment and childhood (trauma), learning to think in new ways to be able to see the world and oneself differently could correct mental illness. That is the domain of psychology.

I'm a veteran who was wrongly diagnosed with ptsd and now have completely removed myself from my "illness" by practicing a wide array of "over the counter" techniques that have been available for thousands of years.

I don't discount the fact that we are a society that is plagued with a fundamental flaw... A severe lack of understanding in the realm of the hypothetical.

Bare with me...

If you treat your brain like a computer system, the logic of hypothetical research of the short term solution is not only fatally flawed, its completely devoid of human logic.

Does science give weight to a broken heart or to the repetitiveness of past mental illness with thousands of people saying the same thing over and over?

I suggest that we have been wrong all along and that it isn't in the best interest of the field of psychology to have a solution, because money, like all things, would give weight to the fact that thousands of doctors would in fact be left unemployed when individuals were given the empowerment to solve their own problems.

Now there are those that have traumatic brain injury, genetic defects, as well as mental illnesses that have yet to be diagnosed, but to say that a cure isn't possible is absolutely insane.

Science fails to deliver, psychiatry fails to deliver, and most importantly, the community fails to deliver.

What makes it so difficult for a human being to house someone in their home when they have hundreds of square feet to spare, a christian background in faith, and yet, a self entitled attitude to abundant riches to hold all to themselves?

I certainly don't understand that logic, but I also know that I really don't care to be rich or poor.

I take a look into history, and note that many of the greatest minds of the past not only embraces their ailments, but because they could identify their reality as an individual experience, the associated 'control' that the institutions of religion and science fell far behind in trying to contain this vast void of Knowledge with arrustic flare and prose that would make sir Isaac Newton blush.

Wise men visited Jesus when he was born, based upon astrological signs, that were forecasted 3000+ years before His arrival, even the most revealing "exodus" documentary on Netflix points out to the simple minded that yes, indeed, the past did happen as was specified in The Bible.

Now, I'm no expert here, but wouldn't that mean that mental illness is the mind attempting to make sense of divine purpose and the lies of reality around the human mind?

If we are going to hinge out entire belief system on the 'big bang' as the causality of our existence, I propose that science has been working on a single frame of "give us this one miracle, and we will get back to it when evidence presents itself..."

Interestingly enough, nobody took notice of the time traveling Bird that dropped a piece of baguette and tried the entire project... But how does a bird mysteriously enter a secure dry facility, in a magnetic chamber deep below the surface of the earth, drop a piece of choice French bread, and then still we are amiss in our belie system?

Suffice to say, the greatest lie ever invented was the causality of our ignorance towards God, and in the process we have convinced ourselves that Satan, either through metaphysical or quantum wigwam mechanical Tom foolery is alive and well deep imbedded in each and every human mind.

Jesus didn't come to earth to kill and destroy, he came to liberate and villify.

I don't blame myself for the past, I forgive and do my best to either make peace with those that I've wronged, and move forward with the knowledge that true faith comes from within.

It takes courage to remove your ego and give it up to reality that each environment you enter requires a certain level of respect.

When the population is no longer afraid of death as they will realize that death is a little sissy girl still stuck on the teeter-totter in grade school, then maybe your idea about a zero-cure philosophy can get dumped down the garbage disposal with your negative outlook on mental health and this "illness" you claim to know so much about.

You want to study someone?

Come at me bro.

I've got answers when you're ready to ditch your diploma and your high roller ego.

- truth stings sometimes don't it?

Depends upon how you define "mental illness" and "cure" doesn't it?!

I think mental illness seems impossible to cure because we haven't figured out the biology and pathology behind them yet. It's the same story with diseases caused by germs (viruses, bacteria, parasites, etc), when we didn't know or understand the biology and pathology behind them, they seemed impossible to cure also. A good example is the bubonic plague, five centuries ago it nearly killed off our species, yet today, you, somehow, catch plague, you go in for a few weeks of antibiotic treatment and walk out cured. Another example is smallpox. The reason why discovering the biology and pathology of mental illness is so hard is because it is, mainly, rooted in the brain, the most complex thing known to man, and exactly how these disorders express in the brain is no doubt different between them, and maybe different in each diagnosis, since what we call one disorder today, which is based solely on symptoms, might actually be a different range of them biologically. Anyways, my point is that while a cure for mental illness seems impossible, it's only because we haven't discovered the science behind them, and that even when we do and do have magic pills, it doesn't mean you have to use them, because many people will want alternatives, and will undoubtedly be advanced by the new findings.

There is illness, then there are people who are mentally ill, but then again, we all live in the world we sustain through the doctrine we believe in - if you can touch someone, healing them in the process of a medicine of processes, or developing a course of action that leads a person to a specific outcome, or sustaining their pain over a longer duration rather than dealing with it all in a single point - care, compassion, healing, and curtailing the environment around the individual - my original statement still is true.

Holonomic brain theory is more adept at showing the person their mind by way of enabled individuals capable of 'seeing' much more than the exteriorized collectivist action that collects upon a person's plaque called the chart during their visits, followed by hours of notes created by someone trained, experienced, and willing to categorically exchange their specific symptoms with a remedy - if one is available, and then based upon that 'ping pong' effect of one drug, countering another drug, followed by death at the ultimate end - staving off the pain is the desired cure, but to enable people to be trained, proficient, and capable of knowing 'this is no further than' the cure for each person - habit, novelty, and the routine enabling the pain is what must be cured first and foremost.

Prescription to medication helps of course, and some medication creates pathways to even higher levels of remission for many symptoms of mentally derived sickness or illness or disability if help is not found in time - those that understand this, also know that there is a powerful structure of Spirit within this - an ethos of never giving up, to not sympathize but to empathize - to live with the person, or to discard the person as a liar - discounting the 'cure' is what we see, saying - well there is a possibility but I have not seen it - means you have a bias, and that confirmation of a bias is based upon a degree of certainty that you paid for and other people pay you for to wear a white lab coat and sit behind some of the most expensive advanced equipment that barely anyone in the United States could afford...

To what avail?

There has been very little change in the 'diagnosis' of mental illness leading to cures or absolvation or salvation from their diseases, the best thing for the human body is to leave the environment, relationships, and culture of which the person belongs, and unearth the debt structure that lies underneath - of course, we realize that money is the root of all evil, but it is like the opinions of sheep to say that it is possible to live without such a thing as a cash heavy medical practitioner that has law, order, and prejudice on their side.

I'm not against doctors, I love my doctors - if I can ever meet them - certainly they can call me the names they doctored up so they don't have to listen to the voices of the few hundred thousand or so death lives that exist just over their shoulder... the Hermetic tradition lives on - either in the frustrating endeavors that Shamans continue, or the temporary satisfaction that culture creates - more disease, more designer drugs, more prescription to satisfy the weakening of this disease... the flesh desires an outcome, and we deliver it 100% of the time - if not, the person suffers, dies, and moves on to the next phase in life.

To a doctor, the corpse sits upon the table... waiting to be cleaned up - if that is the human mind, the brain being the complicated container of the soul, or the center of the logical outcome is to 'see' the mind first, then the brain, then the soul - but that again, is some esoteric nonsense - dissecting the organ into segments can be done as well - but then again, we use holographic memory projections, low light entropy and (k)new world understandings utilizing native logic, not just what we are forced to read and believe.

Entheogens, can deliver a memory solution that re-routes memory into the non damaged memory circuits of the brain, however, with the chemical changes comes dietary changes, as well as life-long changes to the memory structure of the mind. It takes practice, patience, and a hell of a lot of investment by the individual, but the cure is at the end - and man, is it beautiful.

I can't speak outside of my own experience, but then again, why be against something if someone say's it exists? Simply require proof - IF you need something 'paper' based - Google - "Holographic Epistemology" - it is 8 pages of logic that will help align your mind-body-spirit into the same operating language.

My personal spin was simply a low light platform that allows the individual to 'see' with their mind - visualizing the holographic holonomic mind before them usually enables the mind to reconfigure utilizing gesture or speech - if the person is in a coma, then the observer trained with such device can speak to the physical body, and see the appropriate measure of care desired by the individual - regardless of exterior contact.

This is also called the Akashic Field - ie: electromagnetic field - and it is 'spoken' of in the Bible and other 'spiritual' writings. I'm more of a solid - show me and prove me wrong - kinda guy - 11 1/2 years in the Army will teach you - lying to people comes with a very expensive punishment.

At any rate - thank you for the reply - I have a big mouth, but I also have a big heart. I appreciate your time and thank you for the professional comment!

Mr. Noble