While my wife has been taking outside sex partner for over 4 years I for the most part has refused even to myself my pleasure from her actions.
I recently ordered your book finding it fascinating. I had no idea others felt much the same as myself. Up to the present my participation/acknowledgment of her activities has been sharing them with just a few female friends being far too embarrassed to share with male ones. Also purchasing sexy outfits at Victoria Secret for her to wear.
Therefore over the weekend I suggested that her upcoming meeting with a regular (5 or 6 times a year) out of town sex partner take place in our home. He is a Minister ( doctorate in religion) in one of the more liberal churches of which Linda is also a member. They had met at a church convention 4 years ago with it continuing since.
So she talked to him this AM resulting that rather than a hotel he & her will be sharing our bedroom while I will be in the guest room next door the first week in July.
My emotions are very mixed. Excited, nervous, embarrassed & worried but I am determined to explore this experience to it's conclusion.
We both wish to thank you for opening up this path for us.
Wives having sex with other men, with their husbands' permission? When I first encountered this phenomenon around three years ago, I thought this was a rare fetish — a fascinating one, but unlikely to ever be widely practiced or acknowledged. The social and evolutionary programming just seems too strong, suppressing female sexuality and encouraging jealous mate-guarding by males.
When I started to dig, I was surprised to find that wife-sharing actually had a very long history, though it was never mainstream. When it occurred, it was in unique economic and social circumstances. In fact, a number of the men and couples who practice this lifestyle told me that they find the rarity of it, and the taboo nature behind it, a big part of the thrill.
But, since my book Insatiable Wives came out, this sexual lifestyle, called hotwifing or cuckoldry, has gotten increasing recognition in the mainstream press. Here are just a few of these stories:
In the Dear Abby column of this week, a newlywed wife wrote to Abby, telling about how her husband enjoys her telling stories about her past sexual adventures and has even encouraged her to reconnect with an old boyfriend and enjoy herself. The young wife described that his suggestions left her "hurt and somewhat uncomfortable." Her husband suggested further that a "new story" would be a great addition to their sex life, but the young wife said she "wasn't sure."
Dear Abby challenged the wife, suggesting that she question whether she would be okay with her husband hooking up with an old girlfriend (though I'm not sure this is a valid issue — most of the men I interviewed in this lifestyle were happy with monogamy for themselves, just not their wives). Abby ended up recommending the wife resist this push, and that she could end up feeling "used and degraded" if she didn't. A funny thing is that in my book, I actually wondered if Dear Abby would ever print a letter like this, in contrast to the letters Dan Savage gets on a weekly basis. Guess that shows me!
Believe it or not, one of the unplumbed depths (sorry, no pun intended) of the Tiger Woods controversy contained a piece of this story. In an alleged email to one of his mistresses, Tiger wrote to her that he dreamed of being married to her, and coming home finding her sandwiched between actor David Boreanaz and athlete Derek Jeter. Tiger described to her that he thought she would love it, if this actually happened.
This piece of the story got little attention, but I think it is fascinating, as who would ever look at successful, rich Tiger Woods and think that he would explore a cuckolding fetish? Just goes to show the depths of this phenomenon, still to be understood.
The story of Senator John Ensign, Nevada philandering conservative, also touches on this story. Ensign was having an affair with one of his female staffers and later paid off her husband, with money and a cushy lobbyist job, to keep her husband quiet. Little has been written about the woman's husband and his motivations, but I am sure am curious. At what point did he know about the affair, and when did he decide to get out of it what he could?
The story reminds me of some historical events in my book. In Somerset, England, a somewhat common practice was for husbands to encourage their wives to seduce another man, who they would then sue or blackmail, under laws that prohibit men from having sex with married women. In another story, an English Lord was appointed Lord of the Bedchamber to George IV, and stood by as his King had sex with the Lord's wife, Lady Elizabeth Melbourne.
Finally, in Florida a couple of years ago, a public official lost his job when it became public knowledge that his wife was a "mature" porn star, with his support and awareness.
What does all this mean? Well, it seems like the tip of an iceberg to me. If these stories are coming to the press in mainstream media, how much is happening that isn't making into the news? How much of this is truly going on? Is it happening more than it did in the past, and if so, why? Is this a good thing, representing female sexual independence, or a bad thing, representing females being "used and degraded?"
Coming out as a Cuckold
What "conclusion," you fool?
What "conclusion," you fool? The only possible "conclusion" is divorce or involuntarily celibacy for you. Either way, you're paying for your wife to have sex with other men. What's the matter with you? Get out NOW, while you still can. Contact a divorce lawyer TODAY.
@ Allerious
This remark could have been made by my husband. It's really no so bad being poly with a female.
cuckholding
My wife7 I got into this lifestyle about 20yrs ago & are very happy--
My wife & I have been
My wife & I have been together much longer than Most couples & have had an open relationship for Most of it---
we've been into the cuckholding part for only 20 odd yrs--but we are still happy & have a great relationship with our kids& grandkids(our kids(grown) have known for a long time---They say--"As long as your happy--we're happy"
Openess
You Really don't understand--Do You? Consenting Adults doing what they enjoy is Not wrong-
cuckolding
i wish you best of luck, dont let those taboos get in your way.
Sexual affairs outside of marriage.
My wife had several affairs with different men. I never did. She always loved me and never made it personal to me. We have been married 54 years and we always will be. When we got married. I promise to love her and take care of her until death do us part and I will.
Reply to Sexual affairs outside of marriage by Paul
She loved you because you're doing nothing to prevent her from exploring her sexuality to other men. You're a cuck. Howevr, it is yur choice, open marriage. do you find pleasure from giving her freedom?
Seriously? She doesn't love
Seriously? She doesn't love you, she never has. Oh she might SAY she does, but in fact she finds you useful, like the idiot that pays the bills and spoils her with fancy things while she actually would rather have sex with a total stranger from the bar than you. If you're in bed with someone else there's no way that you REALLY can say you love your partner. For a few years maybe, but eventually she loses respect for you for being such a wimp, or you lose respect for her for being so slutty.
BTW, I grew up with swingers and several years ago I had a few swinging relationships. Very VERY few stayed together, because eventually after you lose respect for your partner then the sex isn't about games, it's more personal. Only 2 couples that I know stayed together, but what they have nobody would consider a real marriage, basically a "business" agreement..
differances
Just because you are insecure--dos'nt mean everyone is--
love is deeper than sex or kinks
We have been married almost 15 years. I love, respect, and care for my husband deeply. He likes me to fool around with other men from time to time. It's his thing more than mine. We have great sex together and this kink is just a thrill we indulge in a few times a year. It does not effect our love or the life we have built together negatively at all. I personally do not want to share him with another woman, but he isn't really into that. I think we click that way.
Best reply
I don't intend to seem like a sycophant or anything, but your eloquent post was most refreshing.
fresh...air?
reading through these comments, trying to make sense of all this, and of me, you short statement gave me hope. Your husband is lucky, probably in a way he cannot even know.
Reply to Kgdonna
My friend if you grew up with swingers you forget to mention something.
All swinging couples eventually end up to cuckolding!
The HUGE disparity of available women (for the swinging man) to the men(for the swinging woman)bring things to that end.
When thing's enter this point the couple will..''enjoy'' wife's adventure's(she will start fucking..EVERYONE) for some time & then it will break up.
Some couple with the man latent bi or gay or some attraction to men maybe..''survive'' but there are very few.
Your WRONG---open marrages
Your WRONG---open marrages tend to have lower diviorce rates----
reply to Kgdonna
your response smacks of severe insecurity---
Instead of being happy for others--You have to attack & even insult them & their choices---
I'm betting you do the same with Trans or gay people--Perhaps folks who are not christian or different colored skin-
Jane
Conflicted
Paul,My husband and I have married for many years,but you and your wife have been married longer.My husband has asked me for several years to find a boyfriend.We have not sex for a long time due to his ED.He knows my desires and encourages me all the time.We went out shopping a couple months ago for some new heels and skirts that are pretty hot.I would just like to know how your wife got started meeting guys
Reply to Carol
My personal opinion?
Dont do it...its like go down a rabbit hole and there is no end to it.
All..i mean all.. the women that started that kind of shit(with husband knowledge or approval) end it up very very very low.
You will ending fucking..everyone..like...prostitute without been paid & you will not even understand how you came to that point.
Part of the ''problem'' is that any average woman(regadless of her age) that take care of herself,can have any man she want's even the most desirable man if this is just for sex.
Please give an update
Hello Carol,
I went back into this to read something I wrote. Read yours really touched my heart I hope you and your husband found pleasure and Joy.
Regards
Jeff
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Openess
You & your wife are taking an important step for your mental well being-- Being more Open & honest help with a marriage--A hotel room is more like Hiding--& that's Never a Good thing--
To clarify my stance on this lifestyle
I love your comments, but your suggestion that I "opened this path up" for you makes me cringe a wee bit. I don't want to be perceived as an advocate necessarily, for nonmonogamy, for wife-sharing, etc. My stance is an objective one. I believe these lifestyles are unfairly stigmatized, and represent very interesting and informative "living laboratories" about sexuality and relationships. But, they are not for everybody. Probably in fact, they are not even for MOST people. If I am perceived as advocate on anything in this topic, it is that each couple and person should have the opportunity to negotiate their sexuality as they see fit (within bounds of consent and law), without the pressure of bias and stigma.
Response
No need to cringe a I was only referring to your book & study of this lifestyle. I understand that you are only reporting what you have found. However it has been a great comfort to me knowing that in my feelings I am not so alone.
PS If you wish I will be happy to report the results of next week plans either here or in a private e-mail.
Cuckold fantasies among chronic masturbators
Actually, cuckold fantasies are quite common among male chronic masturbators. We translate the humiliation of being masturbators and not "real mean" into an arousal at imagining our wives or girl friends being serviced while we can only watch. Here is a selection of cuckold discussions and stories on my website http://onaniadotorgasm.blogspot.com/search/label/Cuckold
quite common among male chronic masturbators
Richard Lovel wrote:Actually, cuckold fantasies are quite common among male chronic masturbators. We translate the humiliation of being masturbators and not "real mean" into an arousal at imagining our wives or girl friends being serviced while we can only watch. Here is a selection of cuckold discussions and stories on my website http://onaniadotorgasm.blogspot.com/search/label/Cuckold
There is a lot to this, actually. I masturbate almost everyday and very much would like to become active in the cuckold/hotwife lifestyle. My wife is beautiful, I masturbate to pics of her continually, only orgasm looking at her, etc. One main point though, we rarely have sex. I believe that says everything needed.
Premature ejaculation
Hi im Jason you are right Im a chronic masterbater and watch Cuckolds porn all the time
Cuckolding Misconception
My lovely wife and i started "swinging" many years ago and I found I enjoyed seeing her enjoy herself flirting, teasing, dancing, making out and being intimate with other men more so than I enjoyed swinging with and enjoying the wives of other men. This led us to begin to seek out and to meet men she was attracted to, men she wanted sexually and I encouraged her.
I enjoyed shopping with her encouraging and supporting her to buy sensually sexy outfit to wear when we went places. Our sex after an evening out was unbelievably amazing that night/morning and even for weeks after an encounter.
Where so many make the misconception about a cuckolded or hotwife marriage is the husband is under endowed or he is a bad lover. That is not always the case. Sexually our passions were high and other women as well as my wife told me I was an excellent long lasting lover. For us and for me especially it was seeing my hot wife release and shed her mommy image and to be a sexy insatiable lover to another man. We have slowed down some now but she is still a hot wife and we still enjoy the occasional erotic encounter.
reply to russell
you are Sooo right---My wife is not & never has been considered Beautiful by mainstream standard(she is to me though)-I'm very proud of her sexuality& the fact that she can & does turn on other men-Make them desire her & come back for more
To know that---fills me with a tremendous sense of pride--To watch is a huge turn on-
your also right about cucks "Size" I'm larger than most of her "Boyfriends have been--I think that adds to my thrill-
Compersion
Hi - my husband and I have had a past relationship with another couple and I must say the part we miss is seeing one another receive pleasure from another person. It's not about being "cuckolded." There isn't shame, there isn't a feeling of being "unmanned" in my husband, and there wasn't a feeling of being unable to please my husband in me; we continued being with one another in addition to having our secondary partners. We took pleasure in each other's pleasure - it's called compersion, and unless you've been there, you can't understand it.
With experience it's still a sick feeling
I had imagined after reading some erotica that it seemed like a hit idea but when it came down to it and my girlfriend at the time did cheat on me I felt nothing but anger and nausea.I tried very hard to redirect the feelings into the fetish I had thinking it'd be a more optimistic approach but I guess unfortunately my natural instincts are still too strong to be overridden that easily.
Jellousy may not be Natural
But jealousy IS perfectly natural. If it weren't natural, every man would be a cuckold and every woman would be a cuckquean.
I have to reiterate the well
I have to reiterate the well put comments of Russell. I too love to see my wife pleased by other men with me at her side while it is happening. I love the look on her face as another man enters her. There is nothing hotter sexually speaking than to see your spouse hotter and hornier than you knew existed as another man or woman pleases them. I believe the reason so many men and woman enjoy this is the thrill of being watched.
Ask yourself, does it not excite you a little to think you are performing a hot sexual act in front of and for your loved one, knowing they enjoy watching you. We have been married 25 years and the sex between my wife and I has never been better. As Russell stated the sex between us following an encounter or leading up to one is phenomenal. We role play and fantasize about every detail.
Check out the Experience Project website and you will find many men and couples participating in various forms of this life style. From full on cuckoldry to many less degrading forms of men who just like to share their women.
I also think my wife would
I also think my wife would benefit a lot from a boyfriend--another article suggested affairs are good for depressed wives, and she has many worries, some grounded in reality and some not. I'd have no problems with her having a boyfriend, we already had our two kids, and I would love and cherish her even more. But she also has 5,000 years of internalized patriarchal monogamia to overcome before allowing herself to indulge. I sent her both articles. Great series, please continue to explore these topics.
Because you are a presumably
Because you are a presumably leftist product of academia, I can forgive a feminist angle. But explain if you will how paying a woman to fulfill her sex fantasies with other men is even remotely degrading to women? It would seem absolutely degrading to men.
In evolutionary terms, the entire cuckolding phenomenon is unsustainable. Men who get off on watching their wives mate with other men are less likely to reproduce as a group. Consequently, we can look forward to seeing less and less of this silly masochism over time.
Evo Psych Fail
That's not good, current, evolutionary psychology. Try "Sex at Dawn" by Christopher Ryan & Cacilda Jetha, and "The Genial Gene" by Joan Roughgarden. If not the whole books, at least google them.
female entitlement
Just another example of women deciding they want all of it and finding pathetic men to go along with it. End of the day a persons lifestyle is their own--but I'll tell you this--any man who does this kind of thing is not one I would ever trust with anything of importance. And i think deep down, everyone knows that this is really about selfishness.
What your saying is--Only
What your saying is--Only people(male or female) who think & Act the way YOU think is OK are decent trustworthy people?????
Do you live in a free country?
OR--do you Not believe in Freedom for all--even if they are different?
No actually. I dont think
No actually. I dont think that everyone needs to believe the same as i do. But i do think there are indicators and standards in behaviour that translate to warning signs. Letting yourself willingly be humiliated tells me something about you. Actively humiliating your partner also tells me something about you. Much of what we do is affected by our biology and getting orgasms from other people is going to fuck with your pair bond in the long run. Look up the number of marriages that survive this kind of activity in the long run.
cuckholding
Anonymous wrote:No actually. I dont think that everyone needs to believe the same as i do. But i do think there are indicators and standards in behaviour that translate to warning signs. Letting yourself willingly be humiliated tells me something about you. Actively humiliating your partner also tells me something about you. Much of what we do is affected by our biology and getting orgasms from other people is going to fuck with your pair bond in the long run. Look up the number of marriages that survive this kind of activity in the long run.
Your definition of humiliation is different than mine & millions of others--Perception---that's the key here---Instead of actually Learning--You have a negative "Perception" and are hell bent not to change it--
You might want to look up some facts that are not 25yrs old & biased--(about different lifestyles & marrages--I think you will be surprized -or just Not want to believe them--
Not true
I met a guy I really like and I'm not into but he's is and I'm sad about it. I feel like I would feel degraded and used but for some reason he thinks it's sexy. You can't judge all women who end up doing it I won't but some women might just want to please the guy they are with and see it as a form of submission.
cuckholding
you have to decide to research this & talk openly & honestly with him---Be willing to be "Different" be confident enough with yourself & your relationship before you can handle it--
You Will be critizied by Some folks---You & your relationship need to be secure enough to be able to live life as you two choose to, without concern about what others think or say---this lifestyle is almost impossible to keep secret--be prepared Emotionally-
cuckold reproduction?
First - some animal species (and perhaps humans) pursue a "Hobbs Bargain" mating strategy, mating with a higher-quality female, accepting that she will cuckold the male, but accepting the bargain through the chance that the male will have the opportunity to reproduce with her.
In researching for my book, Insatiable Wives, I found that the majority of these men exploring this fetish are older men who already have had children. In fact, in Roman times, a practice was for men whose wives had lots of children for them, to loan their wives out to other childless men, to help them reproduce.
I think that we are seeing more of this phenomenon now for many complex reasons, but i do not think you can expect it to go away easily or quickly.
david ley
One might also wonder whether
One might also wonder whether a willing cuckold should be defined as such. Much like rape, true cuckoldry is a decidedly one sided schedule of reinforcement. Husbands with a fetish for seeing their wives occasionally mate with other men are in a different context than men who unknowingly raise another man's child.
The nature of internet erotica could partially explain the availability of this fetish, given that almost any taboo can be quickly and disproportionately broadcast through any basic search engine.
The mainstreaming of the cuckoldry fetish may not quickly dissipate, but it could only remain a peripheral phenomenon, because it is a clearly disadvantageous bargain for most men. At best the fetish is a curiosity. At worst, it can prevent certain men from correcting their deficiencies by sexualizing their inadequacies. In any case, it would be strange to advocate such a potentially damaging complex in men.
I'm not surprised that gender feminists informed me of this particular fetish, given that it is a sexual realization of third wave political philosophy. Perhaps the prevalence of that ideology could account for greater numbers of willing supplicants in intellectual circles.
Cuckold Fetish=Feminised Brain Structure?
My guess is that a lot of the men who participate in it have feminised brain structures.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0191886911001413
And yes, cuckoldry of men is the philosophical core of (gender) feminism.
It would be hard to reduce a
It would be hard to reduce a complex behavior like a male cuckoldry fetish to specific brain structures. Granted, neurotransmitters likely facilitate the physiological experience of reward, however the environmental context of this fetish is a more useful focus for the purpose of psychological practice. Otherwise we're just pushing pills to cure sissy brains.
My primary concern is treatment of men who find themselves engaged in patterns of destructive relationships with certain power hungry women. The fetish colloquially referred to as cuckoldry does not necessarily involve male coercion when a small minority of partners choose to expand their sexual repertoires. It becomes harmful when women use humiliation or the threat of infidelity as weapons against partners.
Male sexual humiliation should be considered a legitimate form of abuse by the psychological community and male clients should be given the skills to avoid the kinds of women who would harm them while seeking and attracting women who would be better prospects.
This focus is deemed controversial by some who refuse to acknowledge the possibility of female wrongdoing, or the necessity for male psychological support.
This article, to its credit, does not do either.
Try reversing the fantasy..
Anonymous wrote:My guess is that a lot of the men who participate in it have feminized brain structures.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0191886911001413
And yes, cuckoldry of men is the philosophical core of (gender) feminism.
The huge majority of the "forced bisexual" angle or even the humiliation angle are closeted homosexuals. Many would rather be with the bull than the wife/girlfriend.
Think of it this way. Your girlfriend is mocking your dick, calling you a loser, saying you're pathetic, etc.. Well, lets reverse it if it's just a game. Tell your girlfriend that while she's sitting in the corner watching you're going to be banging a hot blonde while calling her fat and mocking her smelly gaping vagina! Lets see if she'll agree, since it's not real she would be thrilled, right??
Cuckhold reasons
I don't know why you would think it(cuckholding) would ever go away given that there is probably no time in history it hasn't happened !
In my life---I have met 3 different couples who were unable to conceive children(for one reason or another)& were inviting men to have sex with the wives so they wouldn't be childless--
If "I" met 3---How many others are there?
Jane
Cuckold pregnancies
Anonymous wrote:I don't know why you would think it(cuckholding) would ever go away given that there is probably no time in history it hasn't happened !
In my life---I have met 3 different couples who were unable to conceive children(for one reason or another)& were inviting men to have sex with the wives so they wouldn't be childless--
If "I" met 3---How many others are there?
Jane
Yes, for sure cuckold pregnancies happen, like for the reason you suggested (husband firing blanks?); also pregnancy by accident , though the most toxic is where the married couple actually want the wife to be bred by her lover, & not by her husband. Pretty sure I’ve read about situations like that—-it’s every woman’s desire to optimise the genes, so she receives semen from the superior male. Toxic fo sure, but does it really happen?
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