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Denise Lynn Mendes
Counsellor, MBACP Accred
Verified Verified
Leeds LS27
Hello and thank you for visiting my profile. I have considerable experience of providing support and therapy for many different issues to a diverse range of people. Accessing help and support can feel daunting, but well done in taking the first step. Working as an humanistic/integrative counsellor, I provide a safe professional space for us to work together to address your issues, needs and goals.
Hello and thank you for visiting my profile. I have considerable experience of providing support and therapy for many different issues to a diverse range of people. Accessing help and support can feel daunting, but well done in taking the first step. Working as an humanistic/integrative counsellor, I provide a safe professional space for us to work together to address your issues, needs and goals.
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GPS Counselling with Lisa Jane
Counsellor, DCounsPsych, PNCPS Acc.
Verified Verified
Online Only
I will offer you a safe, confidential, empathetic and compassionate space to talk through any difficulties that you are experiencing. The focus of our work together will be to help you to find a way to move forward with freedom, growth, self-discovery and confidence. Trust, honesty and compassion are an important part of the working relationship that I will offer you. I will work at your pace. I believe my job is not to lead you but to walk alongside you.
I will offer you a safe, confidential, empathetic and compassionate space to talk through any difficulties that you are experiencing. The focus of our work together will be to help you to find a way to move forward with freedom, growth, self-discovery and confidence. Trust, honesty and compassion are an important part of the working relationship that I will offer you. I will work at your pace. I believe my job is not to lead you but to walk alongside you.
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Kiran Kaur
Counsellor, MBACP
Verified Verified
Leeds LS27
Hi my name is Kiran, I am a British born fully qualified multilingual counsellor. I have 18 years experience of working in an educational environment and 16 yrs of Counselling experience. I have a good understanding of daily stresses which can cause people anxieties and other health issues. I provide counselling sessions for issues listed above and more. I am able to offer Counselling in English, Punjabi, Hindi & Urdu I believe counselling is a joint venture between the client and counsellor, this relationship is fundamentally important to allow you to experience growth and change, that we all go through in our lifetime.
Hi my name is Kiran, I am a British born fully qualified multilingual counsellor. I have 18 years experience of working in an educational environment and 16 yrs of Counselling experience. I have a good understanding of daily stresses which can cause people anxieties and other health issues. I provide counselling sessions for issues listed above and more. I am able to offer Counselling in English, Punjabi, Hindi & Urdu I believe counselling is a joint venture between the client and counsellor, this relationship is fundamentally important to allow you to experience growth and change, that we all go through in our lifetime.
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Lynda Mayall Counselling
Counsellor, MBACP
Verified Verified
Leeds LS27
Hello,since qualifying in 1992 I have had the great privilege to work alongside many clients seeking help with anxiety, depression, relationship issues, anger issues, low self esteem, confidence issues, OCD, ADHD. I have also worked with survivors of physical, sexual and emotional abuse as well as those who have been in a narcissistic relationship. I work with adults and with couples. I have over 12 years experience working with clients with ADHD, from those awaiting diagnosis and those who are newly diagnosed and going through titration to those diagnosed in childhood. I work face to face and online.
Hello,since qualifying in 1992 I have had the great privilege to work alongside many clients seeking help with anxiety, depression, relationship issues, anger issues, low self esteem, confidence issues, OCD, ADHD. I have also worked with survivors of physical, sexual and emotional abuse as well as those who have been in a narcissistic relationship. I work with adults and with couples. I have over 12 years experience working with clients with ADHD, from those awaiting diagnosis and those who are newly diagnosed and going through titration to those diagnosed in childhood. I work face to face and online.
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Bethanie Taylor
Counsellor, MBACP
Verified Verified
2 Endorsed
Online Only
You may be feeling overwhelmed, unsure how to deal with life changes, anxiety, grief, relationship difficulties, or other stresses. Choosing to start counselling can be the first step towards creating meaningful change in your life and getting a deeper understanding of yourself.
You may be feeling overwhelmed, unsure how to deal with life changes, anxiety, grief, relationship difficulties, or other stresses. Choosing to start counselling can be the first step towards creating meaningful change in your life and getting a deeper understanding of yourself.
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Lisa Furnish Gmbpss Mbacp
Psychotherapist, MA, MBACP
Verified Verified
1 Endorsed
Leeds LS27
Are you looking to find your self-worth again after traumatic events or an abusive relationship? Do you need a trauma-led therapist who can help empower you in a safe and empathic way? I work with those who are in, trying to leave, or who have left, an abusive relationship and want to shed the trauma bonds and find their self-worth again. I have experience surviving domestic abuse. I work with others looking to heal from abuse, trauma bonding, and co-dependency, helping you understand how trauma affects your mind, body, and well-being. to navigate your way through the shame, guilt, and fear in a safe way.
Are you looking to find your self-worth again after traumatic events or an abusive relationship? Do you need a trauma-led therapist who can help empower you in a safe and empathic way? I work with those who are in, trying to leave, or who have left, an abusive relationship and want to shed the trauma bonds and find their self-worth again. I have experience surviving domestic abuse. I work with others looking to heal from abuse, trauma bonding, and co-dependency, helping you understand how trauma affects your mind, body, and well-being. to navigate your way through the shame, guilt, and fear in a safe way.
0113 519 4603 View 0113 519 4603
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Eden Oz
Counsellor, MBACP
Verified Verified
Leeds LS27
Not accepting new clients
Hi, I’m Eden. If you’ve come across my profile, it’s likely you’re struggling in some way. Whether it’s anxiety, depression, relationships, family conflict, loss or something else, we all encounter struggles and uncertainties in life. I am here to offer a helping hand while you navigate these. I know things are tough right now, which might make you feel alone and like no-one will understand. Reaching out for help is scary, but we can start with as little as a phone-call and go at your pace until you feel comfortable. I look forward to meeting you.
Hi, I’m Eden. If you’ve come across my profile, it’s likely you’re struggling in some way. Whether it’s anxiety, depression, relationships, family conflict, loss or something else, we all encounter struggles and uncertainties in life. I am here to offer a helping hand while you navigate these. I know things are tough right now, which might make you feel alone and like no-one will understand. Reaching out for help is scary, but we can start with as little as a phone-call and go at your pace until you feel comfortable. I look forward to meeting you.
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Grace Finch Counselling
Counsellor, BACP
Verified Verified
Leeds LS27
Hi I'm Grace, a qualified and registered Counsellor. I offer one-to-one and couples counselling to adults. If you're here, chances are you're looking for help...You may be struggling with a personal issue and feeling that something has to change. You might be feeling anxious and alone with your problem and wondering if anyone will understand. Maybe a recent loss or life change has left you feeling like you cannot cope. Or perhaps experiences from your past are affecting your ability to live your life fully today.
Hi I'm Grace, a qualified and registered Counsellor. I offer one-to-one and couples counselling to adults. If you're here, chances are you're looking for help...You may be struggling with a personal issue and feeling that something has to change. You might be feeling anxious and alone with your problem and wondering if anyone will understand. Maybe a recent loss or life change has left you feeling like you cannot cope. Or perhaps experiences from your past are affecting your ability to live your life fully today.
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Lisa Corker
Psychotherapist, MA, MBACP
Verified Verified
Leeds LS27
Hi, I’m Lisa. Whether you’re dealing with a specific issue or simply need someone to talk to, I am here to listen and support you every step of the way. I can help and support you through life’s difficulties at your pace. Whatever your reason for searching for a therapist I’m here for you.
Hi, I’m Lisa. Whether you’re dealing with a specific issue or simply need someone to talk to, I am here to listen and support you every step of the way. I can help and support you through life’s difficulties at your pace. Whatever your reason for searching for a therapist I’m here for you.
0113 519 7905 View 0113 519 7905
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Katie Louise Graves
Counsellor, MBACP
Verified Verified
1 Endorsed
Leeds LS27
Does your life feel exhausting and overwhelming? Are you not really sure where to turn but know that something needs to change? I work with clients providing a space to explore your situation and help you bring about real and meaningful change in your life. You may be suffering from feelings of anxiety, depression or dealing with a situation that is not only impacting you but your family.
Does your life feel exhausting and overwhelming? Are you not really sure where to turn but know that something needs to change? I work with clients providing a space to explore your situation and help you bring about real and meaningful change in your life. You may be suffering from feelings of anxiety, depression or dealing with a situation that is not only impacting you but your family.
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Emma Johnston Counselling
Counsellor, BACP
Verified Verified
1 Endorsed
Leeds LS27
Like me, my client base has been gloriously eclectic. I have extensive experience of working with many types of loss. Grief is painful no matter whether it's as a result of a relationship breakup, loosing touch with parts of yourself. Slowly painfully loosing a loved one to Alzheimers/Dementia, being a carer for a child with an eating disorder. I regularly work with clients who have been in some way affected by a Brain Tumour. Interestingly Anger and Rage is something i have worked with regularly in the last 4 years. If you or your partner are neurodivergent I can help you find collaborative ways of communicating together.
Like me, my client base has been gloriously eclectic. I have extensive experience of working with many types of loss. Grief is painful no matter whether it's as a result of a relationship breakup, loosing touch with parts of yourself. Slowly painfully loosing a loved one to Alzheimers/Dementia, being a carer for a child with an eating disorder. I regularly work with clients who have been in some way affected by a Brain Tumour. Interestingly Anger and Rage is something i have worked with regularly in the last 4 years. If you or your partner are neurodivergent I can help you find collaborative ways of communicating together.
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Frances Barlow
Counsellor, MBACP
Verified Verified
Leeds LS27
I am a qualified, fully insured and experienced counsellor, working face to face and online in private practice from Morley, Leeds. The type of support I offer is helping adults who feel challenged by anxiety and depression, relationships issues; personal change; bereavement and loss; neurodiversity; ADHD and ASD. If you're looking for emotional support, need space to talk or are struggling with life changes, I may be able to help you. More information about my services can be found at my website www.francesbarlow.co.uk
I am a qualified, fully insured and experienced counsellor, working face to face and online in private practice from Morley, Leeds. The type of support I offer is helping adults who feel challenged by anxiety and depression, relationships issues; personal change; bereavement and loss; neurodiversity; ADHD and ASD. If you're looking for emotional support, need space to talk or are struggling with life changes, I may be able to help you. More information about my services can be found at my website www.francesbarlow.co.uk
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Safaa Al Mokdad
Counsellor, MSc, BACP
Verified Verified
Leeds LS27
My Ideal Client My ideal client faces emotional, mental, or situational challenges such as anxiety, depression, trauma, relationship issues, or life transitions. Their Issues and Needs Emotional Struggles: Anxiety, depression, low self-esteem. Trauma: Past abuse, war, PTSD. Relationship Problems: Family conflicts, and difficulties with partners. Life Transitions: Adjusting to major changes. Their Goals Emotional Stability: Manage emotions better. Improved Relationships: Build healthier connections. Personal Growth: Develop a stronger sense of self. Healing: Overcome past traumas. Life Fulfillment: Achieve a meaningful life.
My Ideal Client My ideal client faces emotional, mental, or situational challenges such as anxiety, depression, trauma, relationship issues, or life transitions. Their Issues and Needs Emotional Struggles: Anxiety, depression, low self-esteem. Trauma: Past abuse, war, PTSD. Relationship Problems: Family conflicts, and difficulties with partners. Life Transitions: Adjusting to major changes. Their Goals Emotional Stability: Manage emotions better. Improved Relationships: Build healthier connections. Personal Growth: Develop a stronger sense of self. Healing: Overcome past traumas. Life Fulfillment: Achieve a meaningful life.
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Katie Newboult Mbacp (Accred)
Counsellor, MBACP Accred
Verified Verified
Serves Area
Sometimes things happen in life that are really difficult to process, it can feel like there is too much on your plate and you can feel overwhelmed are struggling to cope, it may feel like you are alone with your difficulties in a house full of people. Trying to swim above water can be really difficult when you feel like things are dragging you under. But seeing the shore ahead can really help to bring hope back and with a little buoyancy swimming can feel a lot easier.
Sometimes things happen in life that are really difficult to process, it can feel like there is too much on your plate and you can feel overwhelmed are struggling to cope, it may feel like you are alone with your difficulties in a house full of people. Trying to swim above water can be really difficult when you feel like things are dragging you under. But seeing the shore ahead can really help to bring hope back and with a little buoyancy swimming can feel a lot easier.
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Calm Cove Play Therapy
Counsellor, PTUK
Verified Verified
Serves Area
As a therapist working with children, I offer calm from the storm they may be feeling. With my years of knowledge and experience I am able to provide the space for your child to work through those challenging emotions and life events. Children don't always have the words they need to communicate how they are feeling, this is why play therapy is a powerful tool to help children to express their emotions non-verbally, if they prefer. My background in working therapeutically with children who are looked after and schools, means I have the knowledge and skills to help alleviate these difficult emotions and behaviours.
As a therapist working with children, I offer calm from the storm they may be feeling. With my years of knowledge and experience I am able to provide the space for your child to work through those challenging emotions and life events. Children don't always have the words they need to communicate how they are feeling, this is why play therapy is a powerful tool to help children to express their emotions non-verbally, if they prefer. My background in working therapeutically with children who are looked after and schools, means I have the knowledge and skills to help alleviate these difficult emotions and behaviours.
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Northern Lighthouse Psychology Ltd
Psychologist, PhD, HCPC - Forensic Psych.
Verified Verified
Serves Area
Waitlist for new clients
Hi, I’m Charlotte. I am a Registered Psychologist and Accredited EMDR therapist. I have 20 years of experience working with people suffering with mental health difficulties. I am passionate about helping people struggling with distressing emotions which may lead to suicidal & self-injurious thinking and behaviour. I also have significant experience working with people who have experienced trauma (and may have a PTSD diagnosis) and may have been given a personality disorder diagnosis. In addition to using EMDR I am also trained in DBT and schema therapy so tend to use a combined approach tailored to the needs of the individual.
Hi, I’m Charlotte. I am a Registered Psychologist and Accredited EMDR therapist. I have 20 years of experience working with people suffering with mental health difficulties. I am passionate about helping people struggling with distressing emotions which may lead to suicidal & self-injurious thinking and behaviour. I also have significant experience working with people who have experienced trauma (and may have a PTSD diagnosis) and may have been given a personality disorder diagnosis. In addition to using EMDR I am also trained in DBT and schema therapy so tend to use a combined approach tailored to the needs of the individual.
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Luz Locatelli Dalimier
Psychotherapist, PhD, MBACP Accred
Verified Verified
Serves Area
My ideals clients are mainly Adults, Couples, EAP, Families, Groups, Older adults, Organisations, Trainees, athletes and Young people.
My ideals clients are mainly Adults, Couples, EAP, Families, Groups, Older adults, Organisations, Trainees, athletes and Young people.
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Kelly Reynolds
Psychotherapist, MBABCP
Verified Verified
2 Endorsed
Serves Area
Not accepting new clients
Hello! I am a qualified Cognitive Behavioural Therapist (CBT) accredited by the BABCP, based in West Yorkshire. I have a keen interest in physical health and ADHD. CBT helps us understand the connection between our thoughts, feelings, and behaviours, and how this can lead to challenges, even when we try our best. The goal of CBT is to work together to develop the skills and techniques necessary for you to become your own therapist and break free from unhelpful patterns. I utilize evidence-based techniques to help you work towards the goals that truly matter to you.
Hello! I am a qualified Cognitive Behavioural Therapist (CBT) accredited by the BABCP, based in West Yorkshire. I have a keen interest in physical health and ADHD. CBT helps us understand the connection between our thoughts, feelings, and behaviours, and how this can lead to challenges, even when we try our best. The goal of CBT is to work together to develop the skills and techniques necessary for you to become your own therapist and break free from unhelpful patterns. I utilize evidence-based techniques to help you work towards the goals that truly matter to you.
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Empathy understanding counselling
Counsellor, MBACP
Verified Verified
Online Only
Counselling is a widely used talking therapy. I am Marco, a fully qualified counsellor who works in an integrative way with a range of therapeutic theories including Person Centred, EFT and Mindfulness, to find the best approach for you. The goal is to help you address your issues and help you identify your options. How do you eat an elephant? The answer is to cut it into bite sized chunks. I do the same to help you break down your issues easily. I am a certified counsellor and a registered member of the BACP. (Stay at home is not cut off socialization, join our online group to cope with depression) contact me for more information.
Counselling is a widely used talking therapy. I am Marco, a fully qualified counsellor who works in an integrative way with a range of therapeutic theories including Person Centred, EFT and Mindfulness, to find the best approach for you. The goal is to help you address your issues and help you identify your options. How do you eat an elephant? The answer is to cut it into bite sized chunks. I do the same to help you break down your issues easily. I am a certified counsellor and a registered member of the BACP. (Stay at home is not cut off socialization, join our online group to cope with depression) contact me for more information.
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Jo West
Psychologist, HCPC - Forensic Psych.
Verified Verified
Serves Area
If you're feeling stuck, low, overwhelmed, or disconnected, I can support you to navigate your experiences. I can help you to cope with depression, anxiety, dissociation, and symptoms associated with Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD), such as intrusive memories, flashbacks, hypervigilance, emotional numbness, and difficulty trusting others. I will work with you to understand how your past may be influencing you, your relationships and how you see yourself. Having a late ADHD diagnosis myself, I'm passionate about supporting those who are neurodivergent or are exploring whether ADHD may be relevant. I offer ADHD assessments.
If you're feeling stuck, low, overwhelmed, or disconnected, I can support you to navigate your experiences. I can help you to cope with depression, anxiety, dissociation, and symptoms associated with Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD), such as intrusive memories, flashbacks, hypervigilance, emotional numbness, and difficulty trusting others. I will work with you to understand how your past may be influencing you, your relationships and how you see yourself. Having a late ADHD diagnosis myself, I'm passionate about supporting those who are neurodivergent or are exploring whether ADHD may be relevant. I offer ADHD assessments.
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How does your Counsellor compare?

Number of Counsellors in LS27

20+

Average cost per session

£50

Counsellors in LS27 who prioritize treating:

91% Anxiety
83% Stress
78% Self Esteem
74% Relationship Issues
70% Depression
70% Bereavement
70% Peer Relationships

Average years in practice

7 Years

Top 3 insurances accepted

50% Aviva
50% AXA PPP
50% Health Assured

How Counsellors in LS27 see their clients

87% In Person and Online
13% Online Only

Gender breakdown

87% Female
13% Male
FAQs - About Therapy and Counselling

How can I find a therapist in LS27?

Search for nearby therapists or counsellors by inputting your city, postcode, or a provider’s name into the search bar. From there, you can filter providers by the issues they treat, cost, insurance, gender, and other factors to find providers who are well-suited to your needs. To navigate between locations within the same country, enter a new city or postcode into the search bar.

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Is everyone in the Psychology Today Therapy Directory a licensed therapist?

Counsellors and Psychotherapists listed in the directory are members of the main professional associations, mainly the British Association for Counselling and Psychotherapy (BACP) and the UK Council for Psychotherapy (UKCP). Most Psychologists in the directory are accredited members of the British Psychological Society (BPS) and/or are registered in the Health and Care Professions Council (HPCP).

Providers whose professional membership or primary credential has been verified by Psychology Today are signified by a “Verified” symbol. Given that professional memberships are not a statutory requirement for psychotherapists and counsellors in the UK, certain qualified professionals or organisations may choose not to maintain such memberships despite possessing the necessary qualifications. They may be selectively included without the “Verified” seal.

What’s the difference between a psychologist, a therapist, and a counsellor?

Counsellors, psychotherapists and psychologists can all provide counselling or talking therapy and have credentials and experience that enable them to do so in the UK. Psychologists have earned a degree in psychology and many are members of the British Psychological Society (BPS) and have completed a postgraduate qualification in a specialism. Counsellors and Psychotherapists are not required to have a psychology degree, but to belong to a professional organisation such as the BACP or UKCP, they are required to have completed a training course as well as clinical and supervision hours.

What type of therapy is right for me?

The type of therapy best suited to a particular individual depends on several factors, including their primary reason for seeking therapy, their preferred timeline (some therapy types last for a set number of sessions, while others are open-ended), and their personality and preferences—some may prefer a more structured approach. For many individuals, multiple types of therapy could provide a good fit.

How much does therapy cost?

The cost of therapy depends on a number of variables, including location and the therapist’s experience and training. On average, a therapy session in the UK could be between £30 - £60 when seeing a counsellor and £60 - £150 and up when seeing a clinical psychologist. If you have private insurance, your plan may cover some if not all of your sessions. You should contact your insurance provider to determine if they provide coverage for therapy sessions and to determine what, if any, requirements they might have in order for your sessions to be covered, such as a referral from your GP or medical specialist.

What are more affordable or low cost therapy solutions?

Many therapists offer sliding scale payments, usually on a limited number of slots, which consists in an agreement between the therapist and a client to pay a reduced rate. Therapists who provide such arrangements often consider the client's income or ability to pay, but the extent of the discount is ultimately at the therapist's discretion. Furthermore, while group therapy may have different goals and benefits compared to individual therapy, it can be a more affordable solution to address certain types of issues.

If you are struggling to access therapy due to budget constraints, you could also consider public funded mental health services. The NHS Talking therapies programme offers free of charge counselling for common mental health problems like anxiety and depression. The service is available to anyone registered with a GP, though you do not necessarily need to be referred by your GP and can refer yourself directly to a Talking therapies service. The service will provide different solutions, including group and individual therapy, for a limited number of sessions which are generally up to six.

Is online therapy cheaper than in-person therapy?

Many therapists charge the same amount for online therapy as they do for in-person therapy—though clients may still find this cost-effective if it cuts down on their transportation costs. Health insurance plans often offer equivalent coverage for online and in-person therapy; indeed, in many places, they are legally required to do so. Text-based or on-demand therapy apps may be cheaper than traditional one-on-one psychotherapy; however, the practice may be less effective and is not likely to be covered by insurance.

Is online therapy a good option?

Therapy conducted online can be just as effective as in-person therapy, as long as there is a strong alliance between the client and the therapist. To find a therapist who provides telehealth services to clients in your area, click “Online Therapy” on the directory homepage and search by your city or town or your postcode.

Are therapy sessions confidential?

Therapists who are part of a professional organisation such as the BACP, the UKCP, or BPS are bound by an ethical framework that requires them to uphold a confidentiality agreement. Confidentiality is a crucial part of the therapeutic relationship and only under specific circumstances, such as when there has been participation in a criminal act or act of terror, or if there is potential or known harm to the client or others, will a therapist be obligated to break the agreement. These exceptions to the confidentiality agreement are usually discussed during the initial consultation.