Counselling in Woodford

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Hello and welcome to my profile. I offer a non judgemental, sensitive service, regardless of the problem. It could be a rational fear or irrational phobia holding you back, some issues can feel embarrassing, you may be overwhelmed with shame or guilt. Or maybe you're fed up with an unexplained physical health problem. I am passionate about helping people heal, forgive themselves and appreciate that they did the best they could do with the resources that were available to them at that time. I understand that everyone experiences things differently, everything is relative. I will help you find yourself again.
Hello and welcome to my profile. I offer a non judgemental, sensitive service, regardless of the problem. It could be a rational fear or irrational phobia holding you back, some issues can feel embarrassing, you may be overwhelmed with shame or guilt. Or maybe you're fed up with an unexplained physical health problem. I am passionate about helping people heal, forgive themselves and appreciate that they did the best they could do with the resources that were available to them at that time. I understand that everyone experiences things differently, everything is relative. I will help you find yourself again.
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Aynur Yalcin
Psychologist, PsychD, HCPC - Clin. Psych.
Serves Area
A warm welcome, I am Aynur a Clinical Psychologist registered with the Health Care Professional Council (HCPC) with over 15 years of experience working in the National Health Service (NHS), alongside the charitable sector providing therapy, clinical supervision for staff and consultation for multi-disciplinary teams. I currently work in a busy inner London community mental health team supporting adults with complex emotional needs.
A warm welcome, I am Aynur a Clinical Psychologist registered with the Health Care Professional Council (HCPC) with over 15 years of experience working in the National Health Service (NHS), alongside the charitable sector providing therapy, clinical supervision for staff and consultation for multi-disciplinary teams. I currently work in a busy inner London community mental health team supporting adults with complex emotional needs.
020 4572 4320 View 020 4572 4320

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Jo Hourihan
Psychologist, MSc, HCPC - Forensic Psych.
1 Endorsed
Online Only
Hi, I have extensive experience as a Qualified Psychologist working across many settings including private practice. I work with clients online which offers flexibility in location and no commute! Building a therapeutic relationship is an important part of therapy and I offer an empathic space to discuss what may be difficult issues. I work with adults facing all sorts of challenges such as feeling stuck in life, relationship difficulties, achieving alot but not feeling satisfied, experiencing low mood, distress, anxiety, trauma symptoms. We work together to aid your understanding of the issue and whats needed to help you progress.
Hi, I have extensive experience as a Qualified Psychologist working across many settings including private practice. I work with clients online which offers flexibility in location and no commute! Building a therapeutic relationship is an important part of therapy and I offer an empathic space to discuss what may be difficult issues. I work with adults facing all sorts of challenges such as feeling stuck in life, relationship difficulties, achieving alot but not feeling satisfied, experiencing low mood, distress, anxiety, trauma symptoms. We work together to aid your understanding of the issue and whats needed to help you progress.
020 4572 1298 View 020 4572 1298
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Kerri Nicholls
Counsellor, MBACP
Online Only
Hi, my name is Kerri, I’m a qualified Integrative Counsellor and a registered member of the British Association for Counselling and Psychotherapy (BACP). You may have found my page and be feeling many different emotions, this is normal. You might be feeling lost, hopeless or at a crossroads in your life and not sure where to turn. You may feel overwhelmed with day-to-day life, anxious or depressed and would like someone to truly hear and understand you. If that’s the case, you’ve come to the right place.
Hi, my name is Kerri, I’m a qualified Integrative Counsellor and a registered member of the British Association for Counselling and Psychotherapy (BACP). You may have found my page and be feeling many different emotions, this is normal. You might be feeling lost, hopeless or at a crossroads in your life and not sure where to turn. You may feel overwhelmed with day-to-day life, anxious or depressed and would like someone to truly hear and understand you. If that’s the case, you’ve come to the right place.
01237 879596 View 01237 879596
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Jasmine Randall
Psychotherapist, DCounsPsych, MBACP
I am a trained registered Integrative Psychotherapeutic Counsellor. I work from a relationship model which considers how our past can influence our present; relationships, meanings we have made and how this effects our current relationship to ourselves, others and our world. If you are looking for help, support and change in your life, therapy is an opportunity to explore in depth; relationship issues, presenting symptoms of anxiety, depression, trauma, grief, abuse, addiction and mental health issues. To enable you to work towards a greater sense of self and choice in your life.
I am a trained registered Integrative Psychotherapeutic Counsellor. I work from a relationship model which considers how our past can influence our present; relationships, meanings we have made and how this effects our current relationship to ourselves, others and our world. If you are looking for help, support and change in your life, therapy is an opportunity to explore in depth; relationship issues, presenting symptoms of anxiety, depression, trauma, grief, abuse, addiction and mental health issues. To enable you to work towards a greater sense of self and choice in your life.
01271 445506 View 01271 445506
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Jen Jefferies Counselling
Counsellor, MBACP
Hi, I'm Jen and I'm here to listen. Thank you for reaching out. I'm a humanistic integrative counsellor offering you confidential, genuine and non-judgemental support, with total acceptance inclusive of diversity. Life can be really tough at times, emotions can sweep you away, and you may feel like there's no where to go, no one to turn to. I get that, you're not alone, I've been there too. With this personal experience and empathy, I offer you trust and authenticity from my core to truly hear you and support you in what you're experiencing.
Hi, I'm Jen and I'm here to listen. Thank you for reaching out. I'm a humanistic integrative counsellor offering you confidential, genuine and non-judgemental support, with total acceptance inclusive of diversity. Life can be really tough at times, emotions can sweep you away, and you may feel like there's no where to go, no one to turn to. I get that, you're not alone, I've been there too. With this personal experience and empathy, I offer you trust and authenticity from my core to truly hear you and support you in what you're experiencing.
01769 610234 View 01769 610234
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Tracey Ann Neale
Counsellor, DCounsPsych, MBACP Accred
Online Only
EMDR Therapist - Individual & Couples Therapist . With 14 years experience, I support individuals, and couples, to understand the issues impacting on their lives. My aim is to support people through change and therefore look towards a more positive future. This is achieved when working collaboratively within a non-judgmental, empathic and good therapeutic relationship, which appreciates and completely respects the individual’s or a couple’s right to confidentiality. Counselling can seem like taking a step in to the dark – but there is light that shines within us all.
EMDR Therapist - Individual & Couples Therapist . With 14 years experience, I support individuals, and couples, to understand the issues impacting on their lives. My aim is to support people through change and therefore look towards a more positive future. This is achieved when working collaboratively within a non-judgmental, empathic and good therapeutic relationship, which appreciates and completely respects the individual’s or a couple’s right to confidentiality. Counselling can seem like taking a step in to the dark – but there is light that shines within us all.
01271 445606 View 01271 445606
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Kathy Kelly
Counsellor, MBACP Snr. Accred
Tavistock PL19
I worked in the NHS in Mental Health for 20years before moving into private practice. My experience covers a wealth of various issues and aims to meet individual needs and goals. My practice is based around individuals wants/need and desire for change.
I worked in the NHS in Mental Health for 20years before moving into private practice. My experience covers a wealth of various issues and aims to meet individual needs and goals. My practice is based around individuals wants/need and desire for change.
01822 667997 View 01822 667997
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Two's-Talking Counselling & Supervision Service
Counsellor, MBACP
1 Endorsed
Serves Area
My name is Debbie and I am a registered therapist with BACP and NCPS. I offer counselling face to face, online or via a telephone service. I work with person/s over the age of eight years old. I can help you with stress, anxiety/depression, anger, bereavement, relationships, abuse and couple's therapy. I understand you want to see a therapist as soon as you make that decision to do so. I will validate your feelings and i will acknowledge how distressing you are experiencing your life right now. I want to help you and I aim to see you within 7 working days. My goal is to get you to where you want to be.
My name is Debbie and I am a registered therapist with BACP and NCPS. I offer counselling face to face, online or via a telephone service. I work with person/s over the age of eight years old. I can help you with stress, anxiety/depression, anger, bereavement, relationships, abuse and couple's therapy. I understand you want to see a therapist as soon as you make that decision to do so. I will validate your feelings and i will acknowledge how distressing you are experiencing your life right now. I want to help you and I aim to see you within 7 working days. My goal is to get you to where you want to be.
01392 690620 View 01392 690620
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Dom Savy
Counsellor, PsychD, MNCPS Acc.
With over 10 years experience I am both professional and effective in understanding your needs to help you in the best way possible. I offer therapy from my clinic located in Barnstaple town center and also via online video or telephone. Finding the way forward when life becomes difficult can be a challenging prospect and choosing a therapist can be daunting. As your therapist I offer you a confidential, non-judgemental and private space where you can begin to understand your thoughts, express your feelings and begin to make sense of your situation while also helping you to move forward in a positive way.
With over 10 years experience I am both professional and effective in understanding your needs to help you in the best way possible. I offer therapy from my clinic located in Barnstaple town center and also via online video or telephone. Finding the way forward when life becomes difficult can be a challenging prospect and choosing a therapist can be daunting. As your therapist I offer you a confidential, non-judgemental and private space where you can begin to understand your thoughts, express your feelings and begin to make sense of your situation while also helping you to move forward in a positive way.
07446 026730 View 07446 026730
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Dr Alge Suliakaite Grant
Psychotherapist, PhD, MUKCP
Serves Area
I am qualified and experienced therapist with 10+ years’ experience working in the industry. I have a Ph.D. in Family Therapy, I am a Member of the UK Council for Psychotherapy, the Association for Family Therapy as well as a Clinical Member of the American Association for Marriage and Family Therapy. My therapeutic approach is always strengths-based; I believe people and situations are deeply interconnected, and this is the way I approach all of the work I do with my clients. I really take the time to get to know my clients so that I can offer tailored solutions to their issues.
I am qualified and experienced therapist with 10+ years’ experience working in the industry. I have a Ph.D. in Family Therapy, I am a Member of the UK Council for Psychotherapy, the Association for Family Therapy as well as a Clinical Member of the American Association for Marriage and Family Therapy. My therapeutic approach is always strengths-based; I believe people and situations are deeply interconnected, and this is the way I approach all of the work I do with my clients. I really take the time to get to know my clients so that I can offer tailored solutions to their issues.
01872 309147 View 01872 309147
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Forget Me Not Counselling
Counsellor, MNCPS Acc.
Serves Area
Hello, I'm Caroline, a compassionate and professional counsellor dedicated to supporting you through life's challenges. Whether you're facing anxiety, depression, grief, relationship issues, or the emotional strain of caring for a loved one, I offer a safe, non-judgmental space to explore your thoughts and feelings. Challenging situations maybe leaving you feeling worried, tired, or emotionally drained; Often leaving you with little time or energy for yourself, and it can be hard to know how to cope. I understand how overwhelming this can be, and I can help you work through these emotions and rediscover your strength,
Hello, I'm Caroline, a compassionate and professional counsellor dedicated to supporting you through life's challenges. Whether you're facing anxiety, depression, grief, relationship issues, or the emotional strain of caring for a loved one, I offer a safe, non-judgmental space to explore your thoughts and feelings. Challenging situations maybe leaving you feeling worried, tired, or emotionally drained; Often leaving you with little time or energy for yourself, and it can be hard to know how to cope. I understand how overwhelming this can be, and I can help you work through these emotions and rediscover your strength,
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Anita Grice-Goldsmith
Psychotherapist, MSc, MBACP
Serves Area
Are you in emotional pain, feeling alienated or dislocated from other people? Do you feel stuck or wish that you could have more satisfying, less stressful relationships? Perhaps your fears and worries prevent you from realising your potential. I work alongside people to help understand the reasons behind such thoughts and feelings. In coming to understand the patterns of your life, and the confusing and painful feelings that accompany them, you can begin to make consciously informed choices about how to live. This leads to a more authentic and less critical experience of yourself, opening the way for greater enjoyment in life.
Are you in emotional pain, feeling alienated or dislocated from other people? Do you feel stuck or wish that you could have more satisfying, less stressful relationships? Perhaps your fears and worries prevent you from realising your potential. I work alongside people to help understand the reasons behind such thoughts and feelings. In coming to understand the patterns of your life, and the confusing and painful feelings that accompany them, you can begin to make consciously informed choices about how to live. This leads to a more authentic and less critical experience of yourself, opening the way for greater enjoyment in life.
01326 332080 View 01326 332080
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Paul J Prescott
Counsellor, MBACP
Bodmin PL30
Throughout our lives we may encounter challenging experiences. We may feel lost and lack the guidance and clarity to assist in making difficult choices. We may struggle to deal with the affliction of loss or bereavement. We may find it difficult to understand the sensations and emotions attached to trauma and relational conflicts. We may be unsure of our identity and how we fit within the world.
Throughout our lives we may encounter challenging experiences. We may feel lost and lack the guidance and clarity to assist in making difficult choices. We may struggle to deal with the affliction of loss or bereavement. We may find it difficult to understand the sensations and emotions attached to trauma and relational conflicts. We may be unsure of our identity and how we fit within the world.
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Maria Raven
Counsellor, MBACP
Online Only
Hello, my name is Maria. I qualified as a specialist child & adolescent counsellor in 2011. Since this date I've been privileged to support hundreds of young people, plus their parents and educators, to cope with the many emotional hurdles faced during childhood and beyond. My friendly, empathetic, calm personality, allows me to form and sustain strong therapeutic alliances. In sessions I blend talking, creative, and play therapies, to best suit the young persons needs. My roles within International and U.K. schools have enhanced my understanding of cultural diversity, and the challenges of transitions for young people.
Hello, my name is Maria. I qualified as a specialist child & adolescent counsellor in 2011. Since this date I've been privileged to support hundreds of young people, plus their parents and educators, to cope with the many emotional hurdles faced during childhood and beyond. My friendly, empathetic, calm personality, allows me to form and sustain strong therapeutic alliances. In sessions I blend talking, creative, and play therapies, to best suit the young persons needs. My roles within International and U.K. schools have enhanced my understanding of cultural diversity, and the challenges of transitions for young people.
023 9433 1649 View 023 9433 1649
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Catherine Collin
Psychologist, MSc, HCPC - Clin. Psych.
I’m a clinical psychologist and accredited cognitive behavioural psychotherapist and supervisor, I work using an integrative approach including CBT, compassion focussed therapy, ACT, EMDR, IFS and existential psychotherapy.
I’m a clinical psychologist and accredited cognitive behavioural psychotherapist and supervisor, I work using an integrative approach including CBT, compassion focussed therapy, ACT, EMDR, IFS and existential psychotherapy.
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Adrienne Elizabeth Frayne
Psychotherapist, BPC
If you're looking on this site then I'm guessing that there is either a crisis in your life or you have been feeling unhappy, depressed or anxious for some time. Sometimes when we're in the middle of a situation, feeling depressed or anxious, it isn't always easy to see what the difficulty is or gain a perspective on events and relationships. Talking to someone who has no personal 'agenda' or involvement can help you to gain a clearer perspective and identify behaviour patterns that are unhelpful or damaging to yourself and your relationships.
If you're looking on this site then I'm guessing that there is either a crisis in your life or you have been feeling unhappy, depressed or anxious for some time. Sometimes when we're in the middle of a situation, feeling depressed or anxious, it isn't always easy to see what the difficulty is or gain a perspective on events and relationships. Talking to someone who has no personal 'agenda' or involvement can help you to gain a clearer perspective and identify behaviour patterns that are unhelpful or damaging to yourself and your relationships.
01769 561233 View 01769 561233
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Rachel Roberts
Counsellor, MBACP
Bideford EX39
I’m an Integrative Counsellor with over 20 years’ experience as a holistic therapist. I understand that life can feel overwhelming, especially when faced with loss, change, or a sense of disconnection. I offer a safe, supportive, and compassionate space where you can share openly and begin to make sense of what you’re going through. My approach draws on a range of therapeutic methods, tailored to your individual needs, and is informed by my interest in the mind–body connection. With both personal and professional understanding, I will walk alongside you as you navigate these challenges, helping you find clarity and a way forward.
I’m an Integrative Counsellor with over 20 years’ experience as a holistic therapist. I understand that life can feel overwhelming, especially when faced with loss, change, or a sense of disconnection. I offer a safe, supportive, and compassionate space where you can share openly and begin to make sense of what you’re going through. My approach draws on a range of therapeutic methods, tailored to your individual needs, and is informed by my interest in the mind–body connection. With both personal and professional understanding, I will walk alongside you as you navigate these challenges, helping you find clarity and a way forward.
020 4634 3832 View 020 4634 3832
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Julia Pearsall
Counsellor, MBACP
1 Endorsed
Serves Area
There are times when many of us experience feeling emotionally overwhelmed, finding it difficult to cope with everyday life. Talking in confidence with someone can really help. Sometimes we just need to be heard, to understand what is keeping us stuck in a spiral of unhelpful thinking and behaviour patterns. I can offer that safe, non-judgemental place to be heard. I practice a non-directive form of therapy, which acknowledges that you are your own expert, possessing the answers within yourself. My role is to guide and support you on your unique journey to increase your self-awareness, and to realise the best version of yourself.
There are times when many of us experience feeling emotionally overwhelmed, finding it difficult to cope with everyday life. Talking in confidence with someone can really help. Sometimes we just need to be heard, to understand what is keeping us stuck in a spiral of unhelpful thinking and behaviour patterns. I can offer that safe, non-judgemental place to be heard. I practice a non-directive form of therapy, which acknowledges that you are your own expert, possessing the answers within yourself. My role is to guide and support you on your unique journey to increase your self-awareness, and to realise the best version of yourself.
01392 321218 View 01392 321218
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Kate Howells
Counsellor, MBACP Accred
1 Endorsed
Lifton PL16
Are you looking for a counsellor because you are feeling stuck and unable to stop behaving in unhelpful old patterns? You may have an idea of how you would like to be, but don’t know how to get there. You may find it hard to fit in and connect to people, feeling that everyone else is doing it better. You may be finding it hard to accept yourself as you are and be wondering what you have to offer. Anxiety and depression make it difficult to move away from this place. If you are on the autistic spectrum, these problems can be magnified. Finding a way out of this on your own can seem impossible.
Are you looking for a counsellor because you are feeling stuck and unable to stop behaving in unhelpful old patterns? You may have an idea of how you would like to be, but don’t know how to get there. You may find it hard to fit in and connect to people, feeling that everyone else is doing it better. You may be finding it hard to accept yourself as you are and be wondering what you have to offer. Anxiety and depression make it difficult to move away from this place. If you are on the autistic spectrum, these problems can be magnified. Finding a way out of this on your own can seem impossible.
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How does your Counsellor compare?

Number of Counsellors in Woodford

< 10

Counsellors in Woodford who prioritize treating:

50% Relationship Issues
50% Depression
50% Addiction
50% Anxiety
50% Chronic Pain
50% Personality Disorders
50% Infertility

Average years in practice

4 Years

Top 3 insurances accepted

100% Aetna
100% Bupa
100% Aviva

How Counsellors in Woodford see their clients

100% In Person and Online

Gender breakdown

100% Female
FAQs - About Therapy and Counselling

How can I find a therapist in Woodford?

Search for nearby therapists or counsellors by inputting your city, postcode, or a provider’s name into the search bar. From there, you can filter providers by the issues they treat, cost, insurance, gender, and other factors to find providers who are well-suited to your needs. To navigate between locations within the same country, enter a new city or postcode into the search bar.

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Is everyone in the Psychology Today Therapy Directory a licensed therapist?

Counsellors and Psychotherapists listed in the directory are members of the main professional associations, mainly the British Association for Counselling and Psychotherapy (BACP) and the UK Council for Psychotherapy (UKCP). Most Psychologists in the directory are accredited members of the British Psychological Society (BPS) and/or are registered in the Health and Care Professions Council (HPCP).

Providers whose professional membership or primary credential has been verified by Psychology Today are signified by a “Verified” symbol. Given that professional memberships are not a statutory requirement for psychotherapists and counsellors in the UK, certain qualified professionals or organisations may choose not to maintain such memberships despite possessing the necessary qualifications. They may be selectively included without the “Verified” seal.

What’s the difference between a psychologist, a therapist, and a counsellor?

Counsellors, psychotherapists and psychologists can all provide counselling or talking therapy and have credentials and experience that enable them to do so in the UK. Psychologists have earned a degree in psychology and many are members of the British Psychological Society (BPS) and have completed a postgraduate qualification in a specialism. Counsellors and Psychotherapists are not required to have a psychology degree, but to belong to a professional organisation such as the BACP or UKCP, they are required to have completed a training course as well as clinical and supervision hours.

What type of therapy is right for me?

The type of therapy best suited to a particular individual depends on several factors, including their primary reason for seeking therapy, their preferred timeline (some therapy types last for a set number of sessions, while others are open-ended), and their personality and preferences—some may prefer a more structured approach. For many individuals, multiple types of therapy could provide a good fit.

How much does therapy cost?

The cost of therapy depends on a number of variables, including location and the therapist’s experience and training. On average, a therapy session in the UK could be between £30 - £60 when seeing a counsellor and £60 - £150 and up when seeing a clinical psychologist. If you have private insurance, your plan may cover some if not all of your sessions. You should contact your insurance provider to determine if they provide coverage for therapy sessions and to determine what, if any, requirements they might have in order for your sessions to be covered, such as a referral from your GP or medical specialist.

What are more affordable or low cost therapy solutions?

Many therapists offer sliding scale payments, usually on a limited number of slots, which consists in an agreement between the therapist and a client to pay a reduced rate. Therapists who provide such arrangements often consider the client's income or ability to pay, but the extent of the discount is ultimately at the therapist's discretion. Furthermore, while group therapy may have different goals and benefits compared to individual therapy, it can be a more affordable solution to address certain types of issues.

If you are struggling to access therapy due to budget constraints, you could also consider public funded mental health services. The NHS Talking therapies programme offers free of charge counselling for common mental health problems like anxiety and depression. The service is available to anyone registered with a GP, though you do not necessarily need to be referred by your GP and can refer yourself directly to a Talking therapies service. The service will provide different solutions, including group and individual therapy, for a limited number of sessions which are generally up to six.

Is online therapy cheaper than in-person therapy?

Many therapists charge the same amount for online therapy as they do for in-person therapy—though clients may still find this cost-effective if it cuts down on their transportation costs. Health insurance plans often offer equivalent coverage for online and in-person therapy; indeed, in many places, they are legally required to do so. Text-based or on-demand therapy apps may be cheaper than traditional one-on-one psychotherapy; however, the practice may be less effective and is not likely to be covered by insurance.

Is online therapy a good option?

Therapy conducted online can be just as effective as in-person therapy, as long as there is a strong alliance between the client and the therapist. To find a therapist who provides telehealth services to clients in your area, click “Online Therapy” on the directory homepage and search by your city or town or your postcode.

Are therapy sessions confidential?

Therapists who are part of a professional organisation such as the BACP, the UKCP, or BPS are bound by an ethical framework that requires them to uphold a confidentiality agreement. Confidentiality is a crucial part of the therapeutic relationship and only under specific circumstances, such as when there has been participation in a criminal act or act of terror, or if there is potential or known harm to the client or others, will a therapist be obligated to break the agreement. These exceptions to the confidentiality agreement are usually discussed during the initial consultation.