I have my own opinion and bias, so I will not pretend to not have any. Maybe I’m too “sensitive”, yet I feel like this article isn’t very empathetic towards a type of person. Difficult people, can we say “vulnerable individuals?” Who have protective mechanisms, instead of “lies?” And to say we shouldn’t engage with people who find themselves exhibiting challenging behavior means to leave them alone in a time of deep need. Maybe their difficult ways are a precursor to something happening inside themselves that they aren’t able to talk about, so they can only communicate in their behavior. It’s not an effective communication style, but to be human beings, we can’t just simply ignore other humans because of our discomfort.
Personality
The Secret to Avoiding Arguments With Difficult People
Managing the difficult personality requires care and specific strategies.
Posted May 08, 2019
THE BASICS

Interacting with difficult personalities is often frustrating or even enraging, but it is possible to learn how to manage interactions with these individuals more effectively. Before I address the way to respond to them, I must first explain the psychological makeup of these individuals.
Colloquially, we call a person “difficult” when they present a pattern of challenging social interactions. Clinically, these individuals often have what is known in the mental health field as a personality disorder. While there various types of personality disorders (e.g., borderline, narcissistic), all personality disorders have the following in common: a rigid and unhealthy pattern of thinking, functioning, and behaving which causes significant problems and limitations in relationships, school life, and work life.
Men and women with personality disorders have had this disordered personality orientation since the teenage or early adult years. While the cause of such a difficult personality is not known exactly, it is fair to say that these individuals had some early relationships with parents, caregivers, or other authority figures that either co-created the disturbed personality or did not provide sufficient boundaries and controls to manage the personality and prevent it from becoming so disordered.
Do most people who are difficult know that they may have a personality disorder? In a word, no. Having a personality disorder indicates that personality has become fixed with rigid psychological defenses. The extent of the rigid defenses prevents the individual from having meaningful self-awareness. Because the difficult, personality-disordered individual doesn't have self-awareness, when things go wrong, they automatically look outward and blame other people. Difficult people don't have the current ability to take full responsibility for their actions, so the relationships people with personality disorders have are always negatively impacted.
As challenging as difficult personalities can be, it is possible to interact with them in a way that does not cause extreme, unnecessary anxiety, frustration, or anger. Having strategies to avoid arguments with these individuals is crucial.
Remembering a good quote can prevent a full-blown conflict.
In preparing to write this article, I found a quote that can keep you from engaging too deeply with a difficult personality: "Never argue with someone who believes their own lies." The quote provides a stop sign when you find yourself feeling frustrated by the difficult person's refusal to see reality or to honor the most basic social conventions of fairness or mutual respect. Someone who is difficult lies to themselves in a number of ways. They may tell themselves that they never wrong and that others are to blame; they may tell themselves that blaming others is a justified response; they may tell themselves that they are trustworthy, but others are not; they may tell themselves that they are honest or act with integrity; and so forth.
Repeating this quote to yourself is a good example of using what clinicians call positive self-talk (one's running inner dialogue) in a moment of feeling provoked or triggered. Ultimately, the reason why a person shouldn't argue with someone who believes their own lies is because the difficult person is operating from an entirely different—and disturbed—playbook.
Accept that you will never "win" with a difficult person.
Men and women who are difficult have been difficult for years. Their personality underlies every work, school, or social interaction they have had for many years. The mental world of difficult people is not friendly or trusting. They can be predatory and competitive, and envy and anger are often bubbling under the surface. While a normal person enters a room full of people without extensive preconceived ideas about who those new people are, difficult people automatically start casing out the environment, trying to figure out who will be a threat or an opponent, or who will undermine or misunderstand them.
Because the social interactions difficult people have are typically filled with frustration or tension, difficult people come to see others as threats or opponents. Accordingly, they see social situations as interactions that produce either a winner or a loser. Difficult people are fixated on not feeling wrong or deficient, or being exposed publicly or personally for their weaknesses or limitations, so difficult people must end a conflict with the sense that they have won and prevailed. You will never "win" with someone whose self-esteem hinges entirely on the outcome of a conflict, so the only sanity-preserving strategy for others is to avoid engaging too deeply with them.
Think of the good, long-term relationships you have in your life (which difficult people don't have).
I tell patients of mine who deal with difficult people to think of them as living in a prison of sorts. The truth about difficult people is that they may have close relationships, but their close relationships are usually conflictual or empty (business-like or without emotion or real attachments).
Remember that your power lies in your ability to stay calm.
If you lose your cool, the difficult individual has gotten want they want out of the situation, which is to ensnare you. Difficult people don't have awareness about what's really going on with them emotionally (again, because they lack self-awareness), but they are often unhappy and in a negative mood. Unconsciously, they try to get the people around them to feel the same (negative) feelings they feel.
As soon as you recognize that the difficult person is trying to engage you, use a mental distraction technique.
Once you realize that the difficult person is being characteristically difficult and is on the brink of getting you to engage or join them in their negative feelings, distract yourself while they are talking by making mental lists. Make any of the following lists in your head which will allow you to detach from what the difficult person is saying or doing: make a list of any birthdays of friends or family in the next month; make a list of items you need at home from the market or store; or make a list of two or three things you need to clean or organize.
The takeaway message: Difficult people have a way of relating to others that often ends up frustrating those around them. In short, they have difficulty relating to others in a consistent, prosocial way. It's unrealistic to prevent all frustration with these individuals, but using these techniques can prevent you from feeling truly upset or thrown off as a result of the interaction.
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We can and we must
These kinds of people have are in a state of "deep need" for their entire lives. If you intend to empathize with a person with a personality disorder, you are going to sacrifice your own mental health for a lost cause. You will be diminished as their toxicity occupies more of your own thoughts while the intrinsic value of your own good will for others will never even reach their awareness.
You can and must ignore the disordered people in your life (if you have them) to the greatest extent possible if you wish to hold on to some of your own energy and contentment. Put your empathy to work elsewhere rather than pouring it into this particular bottomless pit.
BOUNDARIES!
Its not about ignoring or being cruel, its about preserving yourself. This requires strictly enforced, FIRM boundaries. Also understanding that the same rules don't apply when dealing with someone who is willing to squeeze you for all you are worth. You cannot make exceptions and you must believe them when they tell you who they are through their actions!
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Reply to Cee
Respect your views but both the author and myself cannot both be wrong. From a quiet peaceful neighbourhood we are now bombarded by toxic behaviour. neighbours have either experienced made up complaints to local authorities or suffered damage to properties from our local sociopath who has no remorse no guilt and has an elevated sense of entitlement.if they want something you have it's taken or damaged and its your fault. As the author states you cannot reason with that mindset.they do not have the book the rest of us read from.life is a game they must win every time
To expose them means further punishment. Options my other neighbour has moved. I have chosen to go no contact.another has chosen to be nice like you and has now had multiple complaints.hope this helps you realise there are many antisocial disordered minds out there who cannot stop repeating the same damaging behaviours.may you never be a target for one.
You have a point. . .
You have a valid point, Cee. And that is why so many people end up spending years of their life trying to "save" a person with Narcissistic Personality Disorder.
Many have tried to show them love, patience, and kindness (with the idea that the kindness and love will be reflected back at them) and then after years of "walking on eggshells" and dealing with angry tantrums over matters that to most people would not be a blip on their radar.
But to an NPD, in the moment they are triggered, they become exceptionally emotionally draining to interact with, and then accuse you of being the negative one when taking out their irritability out on you.
For example, if I spill a few drops of milk on the counter and it isn't wiped up before my husband notices that the countertop is not clean, (ironic when the whole house that was clean before he came home, looks like a tornado went through it 10 minutes after he gets home) may end up starting a fight where I'm deemed lazy, stupid, a terrible cook, or whatever insult he feels in the moment depending on his mood. He doesn't notice his extreme mess, but notices a tiny mess in the one place he insists having something tidy and wants to feel like he has control over something.
When you get the NPD calm enough to talk, then they MAY be able to explain the issue and why it bothers them. And it requires a level of empathy that you can only truly understand by getting deep inside their head. And that is asking too much from someone who is not their parent.
Do they all use the same script?
You will undoubtedly sacrifice your whole life to this endeavor in order to "save this poor soul in his time of need". Funny thing isyou'll look up one last time before you sink
same script...
I expect my ex neighbor is also schizophrenic, he takes a lot of medication, he never admitted he had any mental illness, just bone spurs. He is not curable. Hopefully the police and his family keep him in a pysc unit out of my way. I'm getting better.
Sociopaths
Sociopaths enjoy making others suffer, try to take complete control of situations, are often grossly incompetant people, destroy any good feelings they see in others, becaomne enraged when thoughts or good are given to others since it should only be given to themselves and destroy the reputations and lives of all those around them including their own children and could even commit atrocities against them if they think one word could be spoken against their cruelty or to better control them. Cee, you seem to completely ignore a high profile narcissist or sociopath who can turn into psychopaths under stress including extremely dangerous ones and when they are near the most vulnerable. Often women and sometimes men in my experience. The degree to which they are made should be better understood.
Thanks for the advise
Any advise in dealing with deeply troubled people is genuinely needed and appreciated. While arguments could be made to help neurotic people projecting and retaliating against perceived injustices the more severe cases call for those around them to require help in dealing with them. Perhaps another approach is not to listen to or reply to any detail given but to abstract what they're saying into a generalization and give a simple response to that if any such as "you're just defending yourself and taking out against ... rather than facing and being honest about the problem. But that is very difficult to do and not be drawn in. Maybe practice? Maybe a training video :) Lives are ruined and people endure prolonged torture being near narcissists and sociopaths and how to deal with such people you can't get away from including relatives and spouses is an underdeveloped are of study. Thank you to the authoer for any attempt to help those suffering from socipaths. Family Court Judges, CPS case workers and others in an official position to abuse power and act cruelly are another example very hard yet critical to deal with.
indeed - a very valuable point
Family Court Judges, CPS case workers and others in an official position to abuse power and act cruelly..."
This is a very valuable point - how can a person ignore cruel & insensitive& destructive behaviour from someone who is paid for helping people but in fact does just the opposite?
It is a very conmon behaviour by the way. Trying to recall my shopping/grocery list at the moment of abuse is an unrealistic "mental exercise"...
You cannot argue with
those people, and whatever you say is being misused by them since they lack understanding of their own impact.
Appreciate your compassion
Cee, I can appreciate your compassion for people who are struggling with disorders they didn't ask for. The world would be a better place if more people cared about others to that extent.
That said, there is a difference between empathy and engagement, and the kind of help these people need is not in the form of a tender-hearted person who is not a trained mental health professional. For one thing, you cannot help them. For another, you make yourself a target for people who are masters at manipulating people by presenting themselves as sympathetic.
That's how my abusive ex-husband got me ensnared. I didn't want to give up on him, and I thought my knowledge of psychology (one of my passions) would help me do something for him while keeping myself protected. But no. He played the victim very well, and I nearly lost my life twice. After he was arrested, I discovered a horrifying secret he'd been carrying. It's taken a lot of trauma therapy to recover.
Do I think he's a human being with inherent value? Absolutely. Can I empathize with him? Yes. Do I want to see him come to any harm? On the contrary, I hope that someday he finds peace from his demons. But it's like feeling bad for a wild animal caught in a trap. You keep your distance and let the professionals deal with it. But even they can't do much if the person doesn't want help. It's hard enough if they have the self awareness and desire to change. Which by the way my ex did.
I promise you that there is nothing you can do for someone who can't or won't even acknowledge that they have a problem, at least not directly. But what you can do is speak up to increase mental health awareness, support funding for treatment, and donate whatever time or money you can to programs that assist the mentally ill. Your energy will be wasted if you focus it on trying to help individuals who are at this level of dysfunction. But as a mental health advocate who also deals with her own issues, I'm always touched by the deep levels of caring some people are capable of. So thank you for that.
Totally agree Cee
I completely agree. As someone who has been abused many times as a child and an adult, and as someone who has a mother with a diagnosed and un-medicated personality disorder, and a pedophile for a father, I often feel angry, neglected and alone. I am a successful business owner and single mother. My son is the most important thing to me. Not allowing history to repeat itself has become my goal. I realize I can be difficult for others, but most certainly not all the time- let’s not infer we are ALWAYS unbearable- but life has been difficult for us. We who didn’t have good parents or any family at all still need people to talk to; a need that often times it is very intense. I think suggesting to ignore difficult people is horrible. Please don’t ever be a nurse, doctor, mother, or teacher. You are literally suggesting to turn your back on a significant part of the population, specifically, the part of the population who need people to talk to the most. We are not savages, we are humans who have unfortunately lacked the experience of parental love and support, and who have been alone and independent out of necessity for much of our lives. We need love, patience, understanding and constructive criticism just like any other human being. I think ignoring people like me simply makes it more difficult.
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I agree
They are in their own world, clueless to the wonderful people in their lives. Thinking only about themselves, while teasing and trying to pull everyone's strings, pushing everyone's button, just to get some reactions. When no one reacts, our family instigator, says "no one loves me"????? Why would we want to? They are clueless.
Agree
Indeed, pushing buttons and pulling strings worked to get them attention when they were a child. They just never learned other strategies to get attention in a positive way so they keep using the strategies that have worked before to get attention. At least this has been my observation with a few people, and is a relatively small sample size.
Advice on dealing with temper tantrums and difficult people
Dr. Seth,
Can you please do an article on how to handle temper tantrums and bullying behavior that difficult people impose upon others?
Some of us have a more "laid-back" temperament or maybe weak boundaries. After the difficult person has been successful in getting what they want a couple of times, when they want something, they know that they can bully and throw tantrums to dominate and overpower another person.
How can a person successfully de-escalate in a personal situation? And how can society at large use strategies to not create more bad behavior by just "giving in" to a bully because we don't know how else to deal with a difficult person?
Respose from author
Yes, I will write about that subject in the future. Thank you for your feedback.
Amen
“...all personality disorders have the following in common: a rigid and unhealthy pattern of thinking, functioning and behaving which causes significant problems and limitations in relationships...” You got that right!
Good article. Yes, you will never win. I have found it best to find a way to leave the situation. That difficult person WANTS it to escalate! They get turned on by the fighting. They see themselves as winning just by the fact that they disrupted everything!
You might never see that person again. If you put a stop to their efforts they were infilled and may conclude that there is something wrong with you. So they’ll go onto another situation. Good, I say! Who care what they think of me? I don’t want their destructive behavior around me or any of my friends and family!
There are several different
There are several different personality disorders which differ enough that they each have their own specified diagnosis criteria, each of these disorders affect different people at varying and differing degrees. The humanity of anyone who were to share under the umbrella term of "personality disorder" would likely be very inwardly affected (i.e hurt and offended) by such global statements as your response has made despite they may not actually act in such a negative way towards others- that their actions are either made towards themselves or carefully managed and kept in check through hard work and hyper vigilance.
Please be aware of those to who your comments could be read by as it is not always the case that every person with any of the various personality disorders acts in the way you have stated, your insensitivity could cause a lot of harm, not just to the sufferers of the disorder who may be reading your comments but also to the attitudes of the curious in society who may as a result judge someone under the label of a "personality disorder" before learning for themselves.
perfect example
This is exactly the type of response you can expect to get from a person with one of these disorders. No support for the true victims but instead a defensive, I'm the victim mentality.
No not engage, you will get nowhere but into a mental institution yourself!
Actually I don't, but I was
Actually I don't, but I was assessed and told I didn't meet the criteria. During my assessment (a couple of months!) I learned a lot about the disorder, what it meant and how it affected others. I saw people with self esteem at rock bottom- their diagnosis? Avoidant, dependent or obsessive personality disorder, and normarily would iscolate themselves. I know you may be aware of one disorder in the personality disorder umbrella, but there are 9 of them, and a few of those keep themselves so cut off you would never know, they are mostly afraid of others and many will take their own lives due to the stigma attached to BPD which they do not have a diagnosis of.
My comments were nothing to do with myself but because I am sick and tired of hearing another suicide statistic in this disorder due to comments such as yours which generalise and do nothing to actually think of those who (unfairly) are grouped with many who may well be harmful towards others, -not all are.
But I suppose it is easier for you to not educate yourself on the various disorders, to sit inside your own head and adopt your own victim mentality, and then pretend you had nothing to do with it when another suicide happens. It is people such as yourself that cause walls of stigma to be built and boundaries of self esteem to be broken.
Thank you blonde!!
I honestly can't believe Psychology Today posted this article before reading it...stop generalizing and do some research, it's 2019, act like it.
Childish female co-workers
I work with many women who use these childish bullying tactics during conversations. They drive everyone away which makes them more desperate for attention.
Difficult people
Nice article with lots of useful information. I write on this topic as well here (“Understanding Narcissism” blog). I train therapists how to help people with the diagnoses you are labeling “difficult.” I think that people who want you to be kinder about how to treat the difficult people in their life are not recognizing that your article is aimed at the average person who does not have the training to see what is possible during these interactions—not the person who is “difficult.” I like that your article is easy to understand and does not require the reader to first learn how to diagnose different personality disorders.
As someone who had managed a
As someone who had managed a difficult person for years and is now giving up I find a huge amount of validation from this article. Especially the encouragement that disengagement is best and they will turn the table on you and its NOT true. Thanks!!
I do think these people have pain and suffering and most don't want to be mean and awful but the fact of the matter is they are and they will suck the life from you if given the opportunity because they cant help themselves. Since mine is the father of my children we still have to interact but I find FIRM boundaries for him (and myself!) are key.
Great analysis. And you will never win...
The article is on point; it describes behaviors and reactions of people who show rigidity, resistance to change and lack of insight. Fighting them does not work, engaging in the situation is useless, and sometimes, even ignoring them can enhance their increased for attention. This comment may be biased but I see them becoming "The victim" if people involved do not engage with them and the way they have to bully others.
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The last prediction you made has happened. Following a complaint from them last year they directed their relative in the police from their back garden. I overheard pleading with him to go round in uniform to give me the chat. He laughed and agreed
I told him it was a conflict of interest and to send someone unrelated.he said complaint had not been logged but would be if I insisted on someone else.good I said. The new policeman kept the button on radio pressed so a certain relative could hear and I took them through all the made up complaints for myself and others.the constant damage to property the harassment. By this time they must have been wondering about their futures because the complaint was changed to a boundary complaint which he said the policedont deal with and left. I did however have 6mths of peace as the family kept the volatile one away
Now he has returned and I can sense the anger bubbling below the surface and sure enough this week my cat was killed by a heavy vehicle outside my house and the driver didn't stop.other neighbours buried her for me and said a little blessing.another couple said the deed had only just been done and the culprit s only exit was to return probably at breakneck speed to get away when we had all dispersed.as you have such insight I leave you to makeup the ending. We are an ex special forces family if nothing else I am proud that my husband was selected with a few out of many for his mindset and determination to carry on.you need an indomitable spirit to rise above the disordered mind.
Impossible to reason with
My roommate, who also happens to be my ex-boyfriend,
shows every indication of being both a narcissist and a sociopath based on the criteria listed in the DSM-5. He hurts people. It's his innate being. It's what he and his kind do. In his case he likely became that way due to very extreme abuse he suffered as a young child (not at the hands of his parents) until he got big enough to fight back. In the midst of all that, he lost his Mom to a drunk driver auto-pedestrian accident when he was only 9. I feel so sorry for him because of what he's suffered. I can't begin to imagine the pain, emptiness, rage, unhappiness and negativity inside his head and it truly breaks my heart to know there is no hope for him and that he'll always be miserable and hurting. But I hate him at the same time for the misery he's put me and other members of my family through over the nearly ten years we were a couple.
Unfortunately I'm stuck here with him for the time being due to temporary disability. But one day I'll get out of here. That will be for the best. But crazy as it sounds, a part of me will miss him because he's not like that all the time. We laugh together at the world's absurdity, have discussions about interesting things and otherwise I enjoy his company. He's also extremely intelligent. I mean he's scary smart. His IQ, measured multiple times over the years, ranges from the 130s to the 180s. I learn so much from him when he's not being a cold-hearted monster. This will sound contradictory I realize, but he does have a good side, and I've seen his generosity in action many times, and not just toward me, generosity he displayed when there was nothing to be gained on his part. There's a lot of misconception about sociopathic people, that they're all violent killers, etc. Not so. It seems to be, in my admittedly untrained (I'm a nurse and have no extensive training in psychology) like autism, a spectrum disorder, and those afflicted exhibit varying degrees of it's traits. I believe that's why he can do good for others. But his neurobiological structure was altered by his early traumas, rendering him literally incapable of perceiving and reacting normally to relationship dynamics, trust anyone, empathize with others or experience intimacy. In the end, he can't help himself. It's how he protects himself from more trauma. He freely admits being a misanthrope. Being a narcissist on top of being sociopathic means he can be extremely cruel without thinking twice and he feels zero remorse over it. Ever.
There's no question our relationship is dysfunctional. It has been the whole time, though I didn't see it in the beginning because of the lovebombing aka "the golden period". I know what he is and I cope with that as best I can and educate myself on the most effective way to interact with his kind. In the end, I am nobody's victim. My day will come. Till then I bide my time.
I want to thank the author for providing insight into the minds of these people in language that's easy to understand. It is my hope that some day, personality disorders will be fully understood and perhaps someone will find a way (a new therapy technique maybe?) to make them feel safe enough to let their defenses down and actually reach them. If it's possible to give them that security, maybe they can begin to look inward without feeling threatened. Then perhaps there will be hope for these tortured minds.
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article- dealing with difficult people+ strategies
Seth, this article is on target. Outstanding- thank you. Your article is an energy boost for me this AM.
Other people can perceive me as difficult
Because I don't play the "social conventions" game when doing so is counterproductive to getting the job done. I am a pleasant, polite enough person unless and until someone is trying to waste my time, cost me money, or insult my intelligence by blowing smoke up my *** in an effort to sneak something into my sphere of understanding that is not good for me in hopes that I will want to be perceived as "too nice" to call them on it. No siree. When doing business, I do not put up with what has become an oxymoron - "customer service." I will not allow someone to waste my time telling me over and over and over again how they "cannot" help me. If they refuse to help me, there's no sense in wasting my time repeating it. Nothing affirmative is being accomplished, and they are merely further annoying me. I say so. I'm not going to be "nice" to some toady on the other end of a telephone line who is annoying me for no good reason. I have always been brutally honest when it is necessary. I was an obnoxious child. My grandmother, who was all about keeping up appearances, was horrified by my honesty. She hated me. I found my calling. I grew up to become a lawyer. If everyone were as direct as I am, the world of commerce would run much more smoothly and people would not feel so taken advantage of.
Unconditional Love will change hearts
Avoiding Pointless Arguments with People
Never argue with someone who believes their own lies."
An appropriate Bible Quote is a good stopping point.
Accept that The Lord will "win the battle" through loving a difficult person.
Remember that your power lies in your ability to stay calm. Unconditional Love.
A loving disengagement can prevent a damaged relationship.
you can't just avoid people because they’re difficult
I get the thrust of the author. You do have to be careful and mindful of those with whom you choose to associate and rely upon. But counter to the good intentions of the article, you can't just avoid people because they’re difficult to deal with. That's really rather immature when you think about it.
There are a lot of difficult people, and things, in life, that we have to deal with. If a person elected to avoid everything difficult, what kind of life would that be? What kind of world would it be?
Sure, don't let people get under your skin. That's pretty basic. But it's a waste of time to be judging and analyzing the people in our lives that we have to deal with every day based on the level of difficulty we have with them, let alone spending time to come up with ways to avoid dealing with them at all. All of us can be difficult people under the worst circumstances. A shitty cup of coffee first thing in the morning, you know? That’s a whole lot of people to avoid.
Also, there are those people who come to matter to us. Difficult or not, if they're worth our time, we don't just drop them because of the inconvenience. And you don't have the huevos to talk straight with them, understand what they’re dealing with, set your boundaries, communicate and still be compassionate, empathize some, and not stand up for yourself, that's on you. It’s not easy, but things that are worthwhile seldom are.
And the most sure fired way to not do any of that is to not listen to what somebody is saying to you, by what they say, and what they do. Making lists in your head while somebody is talking to you? What kind of shoddy advice is that! No, we don't need to be avoiding either difficult people or any other difficult problems in our lives, or putting our fingers in our ears to avoid hearing what we might not like. We need to get stronger. And we need learn how to be resilient. We need to learn how to deal with even difficult people effectively, and well.
The way you learn to deal with people is to listen. There is no more basic rule than that. Listen to what is said to you, pay attention to the signals. Understand what’s going on, and keep your wits about you. Try to guide things to a mutually beneficial outcome, accepting that the other person just may not fit for it. Help them out if you can. The same way we help anyone else out who might be having a bit of a difficult time, or is going through something unpleasant, or does really have some deep psychological issues, and isn’t just having a bad hair day. You don't let them run your life, but who do you let run your life? It's a false choice.
Bottom line is that it's up to each of us to make his way in the world as best he can. Only a few of the people in encounter in life will we genuinely connect with. The rest will always be some level of difficulty to deal with. Accepting this we can learn to deal with those people in a way that produces the greatest good, ideally for everyone. It’s up to us to put forth the effort to adap, develop, and make the best of whatever life throws at us. Difficult people are by far the least of what any of us should be worried about.
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apologies for not proofing this before posting =)
we could learn a thing or two from the Stoics...
"When you wake up in the morning, tell yourself: The people I deal with today will be meddling, ungrateful, arrogant, dishonest, jealous, and surly. They are like this because they can’t tell good from evil.
"But I have seen the beauty of good, and the ugliness of evil, and have recognized that the wrongdoer has a nature related to my own—not of the same blood or birth, but the same mind, and possessing a share of the divine. And so none of them can hurt me. No one can implicate me in ugliness. Nor can I feel angry at my relative, or hate him.
"We were born to work together like feet, hands, and eyes, like the two rows of teeth, upper and lower. To obstruct each other is unnatural. To feel anger at someone, to turn your back on him: these are obstructions. "
- Marcus Aurelius, Meditations 2.1
to phil
Generally, Phil, I agree with you - that we should be strong enough to deal with all sorts of people.
However, there are times when we might interact with someone who has made harming us their sole purpose in life. While we might like to think that could not happen to us, or that it only happens to weak people, I would point to Shakespeare's Othello. Othello is a victorious General of an army (so no wimp there). The jealous Iago creates scenarios in which people are tricked into believing the worst about each other, with the end result being the complete downfall and evisceration of Othello and all he loves. Othello isn't even aware it is happening until it is too late.
As much as we might not to believe that there are people like Iago in this world, there are. It is naive to believe otherwise. If you have been lucky enough not to cross paths with one yet, then please just wait (and remember that you have been warned).
And when this happens, you might find the advice of the good doctor helpful. When a "difficult" person is trying to bait you by saying the most absurd things possible, instead of responding (as you might with a normal person) imagine your grocery list instead - and respond in a way not anticipated. If you do not, you will have supplied the "difficult" person with ammunition that they can and will use against you. It is a trap - much like Iago used to lure his targets into their own demise.
I wish you all the best.
How we should live our life according to phil
Well done phil if it works for you but disparaging the work of experts in the field who have years of working with people with varying levels of mental difficulties is not the way forward. The experts give guidance on how to cope when setting boundaries fail. You are quite bombastic in your approach which may scare off potential trouble but perhaps you might take a moment to realise that yes we are all human but sometimes the disturbed mind loses the ability to see the impact of their behaviours on others. They should be assessed and treated only by the professionals and in the meantime the rest of us take hope and guidance from people such as the author.
Advice please
My neighbour and her adult son are feeding off each other in attempts to takeover and devalue our property. Recent events have been screaming that I entered her garden and painted everywhere. That I poisoned her dog, she doesn't have one. She has been telling others these lies but she believes them. She has persuaded her son to barricade us in the length of the retaining wall between us. It consists on our side of broken wood nailed together backed with black plastic and chicken wire. The son spends days and weeks hammering a metre from my front window. Who do I go to for help to make this stop and in what order, hospital mental health dept,social services,antisocial behaviour dept at local council or do I just take legal action. Their behaviour is relentless. Cameras with audio have been put up on every corner of her house,most facing my property. The 2 properties are close together and when another neighbour came to visit,I discussed a book I had read by a retired FBI profiler who had put into layman's terminology the 4 dangerous personalities who may cause danger to you. When my friend returned home my neighbour intercepted her to warn her that I was a dangerous personality. I guess the audio on her camera is picking up what is said inside my house as well as outside.nothing seems off limits to this pair. Reasoning with them is not an option as they believe they are entitled to do as they please. I would appreciate advice as I am not going to give up my home.
Very good article !! Thank
Very good article !! Thank you for sharing..it’s a lifesaver for me
dealing with toxic people, is just avoid their triggers
at least in any work situation.
Your always going to get politics and personal agenda's.
I deliberately keep my desk untidy if they are looking for a trigger.
In personal life the only way to keep yourself safe is avoidance, watch for red flags.
Record everything on a go pro camera directly loaded to the cloud. Why should we have to accept and be tolerant of their mental illness.
"Record everything on a go
"Record everything on a go pro camera directly loaded to the cloud"
lol wot?
you talk about someone's mental state while being paranoid like that
recording difficult people
My neighbour in a hostel recorded a death threat made by another neighbour, its called evidence, It got him evicted and a conviction n time in a pysc unit.
Work colleagues often have their own agenda's, its just a matter of protecting yourself. Any paranoia is now a symptom of any metoo complaints, reputations still matter.
I think difficulty is
I think difficulty is relative.
Someone who have difficulty with person might be difficult themselves
The more well rounded person is the more people they can deal with.
Difficult people
I agree and everybody can be difficult some of the time.However those who experience narcisstic traits see life as a game they must win every time. If you are not prepared for this outcome then life will be a rocky road.
Narracists and games,
I knew what his game was.
He got ultra competitive and jealous of me.
He made a spurious complaint that allowed others to complain about him, it got him evicted.
He gets placed in places by a rental agency under a mental health contract. It was all bizarre.
He thinks he is going to marry a poor mother of two children in the Philippines, he will get murdered there. If he buys a ticket there his family will get him put in a psychiatric unit. permanently.
New Zealand self defense laws is about appropriate force, so if he ever threatens me again i can defend myself. :)
I'm slowly recovering from the PTSD he gave me in having to tolerate his sh/t.
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