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Denise Lynch Lacroix
Registered Social Worker, MEd, RSW, CCC
Verified Verified
1 Endorsed
Hello. Perhaps you have found your way to this page because you are looking for some support with how you're feeling. Maybe you're experiencing anxiety or stress that you're not able to manage as you once did. Are you going through a significant change or experiencing a loss? Perhaps you're finding your emotions to be overwhelming and starting to interfere with your relationships, your goals, your work, or the things you love doing. Maybe you're struggling in relationships with your family, friends, or colleagues. Whatever it is that brought you here, you're in the right place. You've taken the first step, don't stop now.
Hello. Perhaps you have found your way to this page because you are looking for some support with how you're feeling. Maybe you're experiencing anxiety or stress that you're not able to manage as you once did. Are you going through a significant change or experiencing a loss? Perhaps you're finding your emotions to be overwhelming and starting to interfere with your relationships, your goals, your work, or the things you love doing. Maybe you're struggling in relationships with your family, friends, or colleagues. Whatever it is that brought you here, you're in the right place. You've taken the first step, don't stop now.
(249) 202-5021 View (249) 202-5021
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Sara-Marie Skovbjerg
Registered Social Worker, MSW, RSW
Verified Verified
2 Endorsed
Gravenhurst, ON P1P  (Online Only)
Not accepting new clients
I am a Registered Social Worker experienced in supporting individuals as they work towards improving their quality of life, relationships, and mental health. My therapeutic approach is culturally sensitive, client-centered, and collaborative. By creating a safe space for self-reflection and processing, I incorporate peoples’ strengths into our work and develop wellness strategies to help people cope with, heal from, and overcome challenges.
I am a Registered Social Worker experienced in supporting individuals as they work towards improving their quality of life, relationships, and mental health. My therapeutic approach is culturally sensitive, client-centered, and collaborative. By creating a safe space for self-reflection and processing, I incorporate peoples’ strengths into our work and develop wellness strategies to help people cope with, heal from, and overcome challenges.
(249) 496-1987 View (249) 496-1987
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Ruth Wilgress
Registered Psychotherapist, BA, RP, ExAT, CPT
Verified Verified
1 Endorsed
Waitlist for new clients
Children, teens and adults of all ages with a variety of issues come to see me for issues such as, trauma, anxiety/stress, depression, attachment issues, grief/loss, relationship difficulties, behavioural challenges, low self-esteem/confidence/self identity, life transitions, separation, eating disorders, sexual and physical assault, PTSD, and a variety of other issues. I am a registered psychotherapist, expressive arts therapist and certified play therapist. I use a strength-based, collaborative approach and use a variety of integrative evidence-based therapeutic techniques.
Children, teens and adults of all ages with a variety of issues come to see me for issues such as, trauma, anxiety/stress, depression, attachment issues, grief/loss, relationship difficulties, behavioural challenges, low self-esteem/confidence/self identity, life transitions, separation, eating disorders, sexual and physical assault, PTSD, and a variety of other issues. I am a registered psychotherapist, expressive arts therapist and certified play therapist. I use a strength-based, collaborative approach and use a variety of integrative evidence-based therapeutic techniques.
(249) 501-9160 View (249) 501-9160
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Lexi Verboom
Registered Social Worker, MSW, RSW
Verified Verified
Not accepting new clients
Currently on Maternity Leave & Not Accepting New Clients. When you were growing up, becoming an adult seemed so great! Now that you're here, you're stressed, overwhelmed and exhausted from constantly trying to keep it all together. Whether you're always battling your anxiety, facing a difficult transition, feeling stuck in your relationships or unable to create the change you've been longing for, you are tired of just barely managing to stay afloat. Life is far from easy but you certainly don't have to face it alone. This is where I come in.
Currently on Maternity Leave & Not Accepting New Clients. When you were growing up, becoming an adult seemed so great! Now that you're here, you're stressed, overwhelmed and exhausted from constantly trying to keep it all together. Whether you're always battling your anxiety, facing a difficult transition, feeling stuck in your relationships or unable to create the change you've been longing for, you are tired of just barely managing to stay afloat. Life is far from easy but you certainly don't have to face it alone. This is where I come in.
(226) 286-4576 View (226) 286-4576
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Allison Torrie Clark
Registered Social Worker, MSW, RSW
Verified Verified
2 Endorsed
Allie works with adults who are struggling with self-criticism, perfectionism, anxiety, depression, compassion fatigue, and burnout. With over 10 years of experience in the field, Allie is trained in several modalities, but works mostly with narrative therapy, and mindfulness techniques. Allie especially loves working with artists, creatives, and entrepreneurs who are finding that perfectionism, self-criticism, and past beliefs are getting in the way of connecting with their passion.
Allie works with adults who are struggling with self-criticism, perfectionism, anxiety, depression, compassion fatigue, and burnout. With over 10 years of experience in the field, Allie is trained in several modalities, but works mostly with narrative therapy, and mindfulness techniques. Allie especially loves working with artists, creatives, and entrepreneurs who are finding that perfectionism, self-criticism, and past beliefs are getting in the way of connecting with their passion.
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Kelly Bos Therapy
Registered Social Worker, MSW, RSW
Verified Verified
3 Endorsed
My work is client-centered and collaborative. In my practice I strive to offer practical tools and compassionate care to help people better connect with themselves and find solutions for their struggles be it with life transitions, relationships or career. I work with a lot of highly successful people struggling with stress and mood and help them foster growth, empowerment and fulfillment in their lives.
My work is client-centered and collaborative. In my practice I strive to offer practical tools and compassionate care to help people better connect with themselves and find solutions for their struggles be it with life transitions, relationships or career. I work with a lot of highly successful people struggling with stress and mood and help them foster growth, empowerment and fulfillment in their lives.
(249) 490-4496 View (249) 490-4496
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SoulScape Services
Registered Psychotherapist, MA, BA, RP
Verified Verified
Therapy shouldn't feel like a chore. While it might sometimes be hard to hear what is discussed in therapy, overall you should leave feeling like you've gained something useful or even transformative. Over time, you should feel you are getting stronger, more resilient and have shed layers of fear and anxiety. Of course this process can be overwhelming at times and you might not always progress on the timeframe that you thought you would, but when therapy goes well, you should feel more settled and more clear about your life. You should gain understanding about yourself and others and have a renewed sense of purpose and passion
Therapy shouldn't feel like a chore. While it might sometimes be hard to hear what is discussed in therapy, overall you should leave feeling like you've gained something useful or even transformative. Over time, you should feel you are getting stronger, more resilient and have shed layers of fear and anxiety. Of course this process can be overwhelming at times and you might not always progress on the timeframe that you thought you would, but when therapy goes well, you should feel more settled and more clear about your life. You should gain understanding about yourself and others and have a renewed sense of purpose and passion
(249) 700-5421 View (249) 700-5421
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Candy Potter
Registered Psychotherapist, RP
Verified Verified
Supporting women through life's bumpy changes. Hi, I’m Candy – I’ve spent 53 years navigating, exploring, and experiencing life, I have a degree in Women’s Studies, and I have extensive experience in psychotherapy spanning a 25-year career – I bring all this to the table to help you to navigate the bumps, challenges, and surprises that women experience during the big life changes. Middle age, perimenopause, menopause, and teen age are times of massive changes externally and internally for women.
Supporting women through life's bumpy changes. Hi, I’m Candy – I’ve spent 53 years navigating, exploring, and experiencing life, I have a degree in Women’s Studies, and I have extensive experience in psychotherapy spanning a 25-year career – I bring all this to the table to help you to navigate the bumps, challenges, and surprises that women experience during the big life changes. Middle age, perimenopause, menopause, and teen age are times of massive changes externally and internally for women.
(705) 996-1202 View (705) 996-1202
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The Dot Canada
Registered Psychotherapist, MA, RP, MSW
Verified Verified
Gravenhurst, ON P1P  (Online Only)
If you've been powering through, staying strong and carrying on, but now you're barely getting by and you're tired of feeling like you're not really living your life, it might be time for outside support. The benefit of therapy is that it's a time where you get to focus on yourself, to look at your life, and to get an outside perspective on how it could be different. You don't have to just endure, with the right support, you can heal from the past, and move forward towards a better future.
If you've been powering through, staying strong and carrying on, but now you're barely getting by and you're tired of feeling like you're not really living your life, it might be time for outside support. The benefit of therapy is that it's a time where you get to focus on yourself, to look at your life, and to get an outside perspective on how it could be different. You don't have to just endure, with the right support, you can heal from the past, and move forward towards a better future.
(249) 487-0858 View (249) 487-0858
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Andrea Sibbick
Registered Psychotherapist, BA(Hon), MACP, RP
Verified Verified
1 Endorsed
"The first step towards getting somewhere is to decide that you are not going to stay where you are" - Chauncey Depew. Life can be hectic, complicated and even lonely at times. Whatever you are facing right now, I would be honored to take this first step with you on this journey.
"The first step towards getting somewhere is to decide that you are not going to stay where you are" - Chauncey Depew. Life can be hectic, complicated and even lonely at times. Whatever you are facing right now, I would be honored to take this first step with you on this journey.
(249) 505-0609 View (249) 505-0609
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Jason Prichard
Registered Psychotherapist (Qualifying), BEd, RPq
Verified Verified
Are you feeling overwhelmed by life's challenges? Do you want to improve your mood, self-esteem, and well-being? Do you need someone to listen to you and support you? With experience as a teacher, consultant, and therapist, my training and person-centered approach can help you process the challenges of life. Together, we can work toward finding meaning and balance in your life. Serving adults, teens, couples, and families, I offer a range of psychotherapy services to suit your needs with a particular focus on client-centered approaches such as Narrative Therapy, Internal Family Systems, ACT and Cognitive Behaviour Therapy.
Are you feeling overwhelmed by life's challenges? Do you want to improve your mood, self-esteem, and well-being? Do you need someone to listen to you and support you? With experience as a teacher, consultant, and therapist, my training and person-centered approach can help you process the challenges of life. Together, we can work toward finding meaning and balance in your life. Serving adults, teens, couples, and families, I offer a range of psychotherapy services to suit your needs with a particular focus on client-centered approaches such as Narrative Therapy, Internal Family Systems, ACT and Cognitive Behaviour Therapy.
(249) 444-2136 View (249) 444-2136
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Kristen Jones
Registered Psychotherapist (Qualifying), MACP
Verified Verified
3 Endorsed
At times, we go through challenges in our life that are difficult to navigate on our own. I work collaboratively with clients to ensure that they are heard, understood, and supported as we work together to move through those challenges. I utilize a client-centred and compassionate approach to address a wide range of concerns including trauma, grief, anxiety, life transitions, relationship issues, PTSD, stress, substance use disorders, and low self-esteem.
At times, we go through challenges in our life that are difficult to navigate on our own. I work collaboratively with clients to ensure that they are heard, understood, and supported as we work together to move through those challenges. I utilize a client-centred and compassionate approach to address a wide range of concerns including trauma, grief, anxiety, life transitions, relationship issues, PTSD, stress, substance use disorders, and low self-esteem.
(249) 202-2558 View (249) 202-2558
Photo of Cassandra McMullen, BA, RSW, Registered Social Worker
Cassandra McMullen
Registered Social Worker, BA, RSW
Verified Verified
Not accepting new clients
Welcome. My name is Cassie and I am an experienced Registered Social Worker (RSW) practicing psychotherapy with youth (10+) and young adults. I have a BA and a Child & Youth Worker Diploma, and have worked in social services and mental health for the past 10 years in a variety of settings, which has given me a broad understanding of the complexities and diversity of problems facing young people, including attachment issues, trauma, anxiety, depression, substance use, emotion regulation and life transitions.
Welcome. My name is Cassie and I am an experienced Registered Social Worker (RSW) practicing psychotherapy with youth (10+) and young adults. I have a BA and a Child & Youth Worker Diploma, and have worked in social services and mental health for the past 10 years in a variety of settings, which has given me a broad understanding of the complexities and diversity of problems facing young people, including attachment issues, trauma, anxiety, depression, substance use, emotion regulation and life transitions.
(249) 559-1329 View (249) 559-1329
Photo of Clare Wells, MSW, RSW, Registered Social Worker
Clare Wells
Registered Social Worker, MSW, RSW
Verified Verified
3 Endorsed
Waitlist for new clients
With over 10 years of experience in various sectors for mental health, I offer a safe and inclusive space to help guide you towards clarity and an enhanced sense of self. My areas of expertise include anxiety, depression, self-worth, strained relationships, and compassion fatigue. Whether you are seeking support for yourself or someone you care for, I work collaboratively to gain a better sense of yourself, exploring previous wounds, and create shifts to move towards your desired self. I will help you gain a deeper understanding of yourself, and in turn more effective ways of coping.
With over 10 years of experience in various sectors for mental health, I offer a safe and inclusive space to help guide you towards clarity and an enhanced sense of self. My areas of expertise include anxiety, depression, self-worth, strained relationships, and compassion fatigue. Whether you are seeking support for yourself or someone you care for, I work collaboratively to gain a better sense of yourself, exploring previous wounds, and create shifts to move towards your desired self. I will help you gain a deeper understanding of yourself, and in turn more effective ways of coping.
(249) 488-1641 View (249) 488-1641
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Marelle Parkin
Registered Social Worker, MSW, BSW
Verified Verified
3 Endorsed
Welcome! My name is Marelle and I am a registered Social Worker with the OCSWSSW. I hold a Master of Social Work degree from York University, a Bachelor of Social Work degree from McMaster University and a Bachelor of Sociology degree from Laurentian University. I have extensive experience and training supporting people of all ages who have experienced trauma, attachment disruptions, mental health struggles, family/spousal conflict or struggles, high-conflict situations, developmental delays, grief and loss, child welfare involvement (protection, kinship, and adoption), as well as victims of abuse, crime and tragedy.
Welcome! My name is Marelle and I am a registered Social Worker with the OCSWSSW. I hold a Master of Social Work degree from York University, a Bachelor of Social Work degree from McMaster University and a Bachelor of Sociology degree from Laurentian University. I have extensive experience and training supporting people of all ages who have experienced trauma, attachment disruptions, mental health struggles, family/spousal conflict or struggles, high-conflict situations, developmental delays, grief and loss, child welfare involvement (protection, kinship, and adoption), as well as victims of abuse, crime and tragedy.
(249) 488-0957 View (249) 488-0957
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Tonya McKee
Registered Social Worker, MSW, RSW
Verified Verified
2 Endorsed
There are many life changes that bring people to meet with a counsellor. Whether you are seeking to manage your anger, depression, anxiety or to cope with a crisis in you and your family/marriage or build more interpersonal communication skills. I provide counselling for Individuals, marriage or couples therapy. There are many tools that can help you cope with stressful events. Together we can build a treatment plan that meets your goals. Taking the first step to call can be overwhelming, it can also be rewarding when you find that there are tools available to help with achieving your goals.
There are many life changes that bring people to meet with a counsellor. Whether you are seeking to manage your anger, depression, anxiety or to cope with a crisis in you and your family/marriage or build more interpersonal communication skills. I provide counselling for Individuals, marriage or couples therapy. There are many tools that can help you cope with stressful events. Together we can build a treatment plan that meets your goals. Taking the first step to call can be overwhelming, it can also be rewarding when you find that there are tools available to help with achieving your goals.
(249) 503-3693 View (249) 503-3693
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WinterWalk Counselling
Registered Social Worker, RSW, MSW
Verified Verified
Struggling to achieve what you think you "ought" to be achieving? Finding barriers you can't seem to overcome on your own? Looking for someone to hold space for you? Life can present challenges in all forms; I am committed to helping you navigate those through flexible, dynamic, and engaging approaches. Let's weave together seemingly disparate parts of your life to help you to feel well. Do well. And be well. I am keen to meet you where you are at and recognize that that looks different for every person.
Struggling to achieve what you think you "ought" to be achieving? Finding barriers you can't seem to overcome on your own? Looking for someone to hold space for you? Life can present challenges in all forms; I am committed to helping you navigate those through flexible, dynamic, and engaging approaches. Let's weave together seemingly disparate parts of your life to help you to feel well. Do well. And be well. I am keen to meet you where you are at and recognize that that looks different for every person.
(249) 503-8481 View (249) 503-8481
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Kathleen Aikins
Registered Psychotherapist (Qualifying), RP (Q)
Verified Verified
1 Endorsed
Currently accepting new clients for the Pay-What-You-Can student therapist clinic, in-person in Orillia, ON, and online to residents of Ontario. When you're struggling with feelings of depression, anxiety, relational issues, or difficult thoughts, I understand that these can feel overwhelming and affect your day-to-day life. Together, we can take a collaborative approach to therapy that will help you discover the root causes of what has brought you here and what changes we can make together to give you back a sense of direction with meaningful and lasting change!
Currently accepting new clients for the Pay-What-You-Can student therapist clinic, in-person in Orillia, ON, and online to residents of Ontario. When you're struggling with feelings of depression, anxiety, relational issues, or difficult thoughts, I understand that these can feel overwhelming and affect your day-to-day life. Together, we can take a collaborative approach to therapy that will help you discover the root causes of what has brought you here and what changes we can make together to give you back a sense of direction with meaningful and lasting change!
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Tracie Atkinson
Counsellor
Verified Verified
With over 8 years experience as an Emergency Crisis Responder, I’ve witnessed firsthand the impact tragedy can have on individuals and families alike. The physical and emotional effect on those that have been victims of a crime or have experienced sudden loss can be overwhelming. It is because of this work I’ve devoted my practice to helping victims understand and comprehend their emotions and circumstances. By providing a safe, supportive and confidential environment, together we will work on processing the trauma and start the journey towards healing.
With over 8 years experience as an Emergency Crisis Responder, I’ve witnessed firsthand the impact tragedy can have on individuals and families alike. The physical and emotional effect on those that have been victims of a crime or have experienced sudden loss can be overwhelming. It is because of this work I’ve devoted my practice to helping victims understand and comprehend their emotions and circumstances. By providing a safe, supportive and confidential environment, together we will work on processing the trauma and start the journey towards healing.
(249) 294-1228 View (249) 294-1228
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Joanne Parks
Registered Social Worker, MSW, RSW
Verified Verified
Gravenhurst, ON P1P  (Online Only)
Not accepting new clients
Welcome and congratulations! By exploring your options for therapy, you are taking positive steps toward feeling better. Deciding to take control of your health and healing can take courage. It would be a privilege to support you in taking this first step, and the ones that follow, as you create a life for yourself that you want and deserve.
Welcome and congratulations! By exploring your options for therapy, you are taking positive steps toward feeling better. Deciding to take control of your health and healing can take courage. It would be a privilege to support you in taking this first step, and the ones that follow, as you create a life for yourself that you want and deserve.
(249) 488-3599 View (249) 488-3599

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How does your Counsellor compare?

Number of Counsellors in P1P

40+

Average cost per session

$140

Counsellors in P1P who prioritize treating:

98% Anxiety
95% Coping Skills
91% Depression
88% Self Esteem
88% Stress
81% Relationship Issues
74% Life Transitions

Average years in practice

11 Years

Top 3 insurances accepted

57% SunLife
57% First Nations Health Authority
43% Great-West Life

How Counsellors in P1P see their clients

82% In Person and Online
18% Online Only

Gender breakdown

90% Female
8% Male
2% Non-Binary
FAQs - About Therapy and Counselling

How can I find a therapist in P1P?

Search for nearby therapists or counsellors by inputting your city, postal code, or a provider’s name into the search bar. From there, you can filter providers by the issues they treat, cost, insurance, gender, and other factors to find providers who are well-suited to your needs. To navigate between locations within the same country, enter a new city or postal code into the search bar.

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Is everyone in the Psychology Today Therapy Directory a licensed therapist?

Most Counsellors and Psychotherapists listed in the directory are certified by one of the main professional associations, mainly the Canadian Counselling and Psychotherapy Association (CCPA), and will have a Certified Canadian Counsellor (CCC) designation with their name. Social Workers listed in the directory must be registered members of the college specific to their province. To be listed in the directory, Psychologists must be registered with the psychological college specific to their province or territory.

Providers whose professional membership or primary credential has been verified by Psychology Today are signified by a “Verified” symbol. Given the considerable variation in professional regulation and prerequisites across Canadian provinces, some providers may possess significant professional qualifications without necessarily holding professional memberships or being obliged to acquire them. As a result, they may be selectively included without the "Verified" seal.

What’s the difference between a psychologist, a therapist, and a counsellor?

Psychologists, counsellors, psychotherapists and social workers can all provide counselling or talking therapy and have credentials and supervised, practical experience that enable them to do so in Canada.

Psychologists have a master's and/or doctoral degree and have passed both written and oral exams. Psychologists are able to complete mental health assessments and provide diagnostic information to clients as well as provide counselling therapy or psychotherapy. Counsellors and psychotherapists are expected to have a master's or doctoral degree in counselling psychology, social work, or a related mental health discipline and certification by a professional association, such as the Canadian Counselling and Psychotherapy Association. Registered Social Workers possess a Bachelor's or Master's degree in Social Work and where possible must be licensed or certified by the provincial government and/or regulatory college.

What type of therapy is right for me?

The type of therapy best suited to a particular individual depends on several factors, including their primary reason for seeking therapy, their preferred timeline (some therapy types last for a set number of sessions, while others are open-ended), and their personality and preferences—some may prefer a more structured approach. For many individuals, multiple types of therapy could provide a good fit.

How much does therapy cost?

The cost of therapy depends on a number of variables, including location and the therapist’s experience and training. On average, the cost of a therapy session in Canada could be between $100 and $200. If you have insurance, the expense of mental health care is typically lower, but it varies based on your insurance plan details and whether you choose an in-network or out-of-network mental healthcare provider.

What are more affordable or low cost therapy solutions?

Many therapists offer sliding scale payments, usually on a limited number of slots, which consists in an agreement between the therapist and a client to pay a reduced rate. Therapists who provide such arrangements often consider the client's income or ability to pay, but the extent of the discount is ultimately at the therapist's discretion. Furthermore, while group therapy may have different goals and benefits compared to individual therapy, it can be a more affordable solution to address certain types of issues.

If you are struggling to access therapy due to budget constraints, you could also consider public funded mental health services. Some types of outpatient mental health services are covered by Medicare, provided these are performed by a licensed mental health professional in the provinces or territory you reside in and who accepts the assignment.

Is online therapy cheaper than in-person therapy?

Many therapists charge the same amount for online therapy as they do for in-person therapy—though clients may still find this cost-effective if it cuts down on their transportation costs. Health insurance plans often offer equivalent coverage for online and in-person therapy; indeed, in many places, they are legally required to do so. Text-based or on-demand therapy apps may be cheaper than traditional one-on-one psychotherapy; however, the practice may be less effective and is not likely to be covered by insurance.

Is online therapy a good option?

Therapy conducted online can be just as effective as in-person therapy, as long as there is a strong alliance between the client and the therapist. To find a therapist who provides telehealth services to clients in your area, click “Online Therapy” on the directory homepage and search by your city or town or your postal code.

Are therapy sessions confidential?

Professionals licensed by regulatory colleges and those certified by associations such as the Canadian Counselling and Psychotherapy Association are obligated to uphold client confidentiality unless there is a legal reason that requires them to disclose information. Confidentiality is a crucial part of the therapeutic relationship and only under specific circumstances, such as when there is the potential or known harm to the client or others, or a court order, will a therapist be obligated to break the agreement. These exceptions to the confidentiality agreement are usually discussed during the initial consultation.