ADHD Therapists in Toronto, ON

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Yasmin Dahleh
Registered Psychotherapist (Qualifying), RPQ, MA, MHI
Verified Verified
3 Endorsed
Toronto, ON M5S  (Online Only)
Congratulations on taking such an important step towards healing and personal growth! I look forward to providing you with a safe space to collaboratively explore your thoughts, emotions and experiences. Together, we will explore and address the root causes of your concerns, enabling you to move towards an authentic and meaningful life. I am honoured to partner with members of LGBTQ+ and racialized communities and endeavour to understand how experiences of marginalization and oppression impact you and your loved ones. I am also passionate about supporting clients with ADHD or those who identify as neurodivergent in some capacity.
Congratulations on taking such an important step towards healing and personal growth! I look forward to providing you with a safe space to collaboratively explore your thoughts, emotions and experiences. Together, we will explore and address the root causes of your concerns, enabling you to move towards an authentic and meaningful life. I am honoured to partner with members of LGBTQ+ and racialized communities and endeavour to understand how experiences of marginalization and oppression impact you and your loved ones. I am also passionate about supporting clients with ADHD or those who identify as neurodivergent in some capacity.
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Armita Hosseini
Psychological Associate, MEd, MA
Verified Verified
Toronto, ON M5V  (Online Only)
Waitlist for new clients
Thank you for visiting my profile. I take an evidence-based and integrative approach to psychological treatment and my goal is to create a safe space that empowers my clients, helps them feel understood and supported to challenge life’s difficulties and ultimately thrive. I believe change is possible when relationships are grounded in trust, openness, and strengths are discovered and celebrated. As I learn about your challenges, I hope to work alongside you, your child or family with a compassionate ear. Currently my practice focuses on Adult Autism and ADHD Assessments.
Thank you for visiting my profile. I take an evidence-based and integrative approach to psychological treatment and my goal is to create a safe space that empowers my clients, helps them feel understood and supported to challenge life’s difficulties and ultimately thrive. I believe change is possible when relationships are grounded in trust, openness, and strengths are discovered and celebrated. As I learn about your challenges, I hope to work alongside you, your child or family with a compassionate ear. Currently my practice focuses on Adult Autism and ADHD Assessments.
(647) 371-1931 View (647) 371-1931
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Adam Brotherwood
Registered Social Worker, MSW, RSW
Verified Verified
1 Endorsed
Toronto, ON M4K
Living a life of disconnection, anxiety and loneliness can be exhausting, especially when you are wearing a mask to show the world around you you’re fine, when you’re not. Showing others the hurting side of you can be a vulnerable, scary process, and I’m here to help you through the other side of this difficult time. With over 15 years of experience, I support folks thrive through experiences of anxiety, depression, and ADHD. I also support couples improve communication and connection. I strive to work alongside you to understand your personal struggles, face them with courage and resilience, and create a plan to overcome.
Living a life of disconnection, anxiety and loneliness can be exhausting, especially when you are wearing a mask to show the world around you you’re fine, when you’re not. Showing others the hurting side of you can be a vulnerable, scary process, and I’m here to help you through the other side of this difficult time. With over 15 years of experience, I support folks thrive through experiences of anxiety, depression, and ADHD. I also support couples improve communication and connection. I strive to work alongside you to understand your personal struggles, face them with courage and resilience, and create a plan to overcome.
(437) 500-0228 View (437) 500-0228
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Rohama Kabeer
Registered Psychotherapist (Qualifying), RP, Q
Verified Verified
1 Endorsed
Toronto, ON M4J
As a Registered Psychotherapist (Qualifying), I can support you by creating an empathetic space for teenagers and adults to overcome struggles such as anxiety, procrastination, time managmen, low mood, ADHD/LD's, family issues, acculturation and other forms of emotional or relaitonship distress. I work with all communities and an added specialization in working with South Asian Mental Health, International Student issues and ADHD/Learning Disabilities. Sessions are provided in English or Urdu. If you need support to overcome struggles and improve your quality of life, please reach out. A conversation is a great place to start!
As a Registered Psychotherapist (Qualifying), I can support you by creating an empathetic space for teenagers and adults to overcome struggles such as anxiety, procrastination, time managmen, low mood, ADHD/LD's, family issues, acculturation and other forms of emotional or relaitonship distress. I work with all communities and an added specialization in working with South Asian Mental Health, International Student issues and ADHD/Learning Disabilities. Sessions are provided in English or Urdu. If you need support to overcome struggles and improve your quality of life, please reach out. A conversation is a great place to start!
(437) 371-2409 View (437) 371-2409
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Linda Storm
Registered Psychotherapist (Qualifying), MA, CCC, CHyp
Verified Verified
5 Endorsed
Toronto, ON M5A
If you are exploring trauma, PTSD, anxiety and depression through the lens of ADHD, ASD (Autism) combined with anxiety, you are welcome here. I understand your needs. As an individual or couple experiencing relationship issues and life transitions, I can vary greatly, and I create unique therapy plans. In addition to assessments, we deeply explore self; I provide personalized guidance and 1-2-1 coaching vital to developing new strategies, changing, and learning new life skills to make life easier and a happy place for you.
If you are exploring trauma, PTSD, anxiety and depression through the lens of ADHD, ASD (Autism) combined with anxiety, you are welcome here. I understand your needs. As an individual or couple experiencing relationship issues and life transitions, I can vary greatly, and I create unique therapy plans. In addition to assessments, we deeply explore self; I provide personalized guidance and 1-2-1 coaching vital to developing new strategies, changing, and learning new life skills to make life easier and a happy place for you.
(825) 250-3831 View (825) 250-3831
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Kara-Lynn Carder
Registered Social Worker, MSW, RSW, Hons B
Verified Verified
2 Endorsed
Toronto, ON M6E  (Online Only)
Therapy is about being heard, being seen, and learning how to make new choices – and knowing that you don’t have to do this on your own. I have experienced working with children, teens, young adults, and families impacted by mental health challenges, crisis situations, and traumatic life experiences. I work from a client-centered, strengths-based, and trauma-informed modality and experienced in the assessment and treatment of, but not limited to, the following: CPTSD/PTSD; ADHD; Suicidality and Self Harm; Depression/Grief and Anxiety/OCD/GAD; BPD; 2SLGBTQ+ Issues; and Family Conflict.
Therapy is about being heard, being seen, and learning how to make new choices – and knowing that you don’t have to do this on your own. I have experienced working with children, teens, young adults, and families impacted by mental health challenges, crisis situations, and traumatic life experiences. I work from a client-centered, strengths-based, and trauma-informed modality and experienced in the assessment and treatment of, but not limited to, the following: CPTSD/PTSD; ADHD; Suicidality and Self Harm; Depression/Grief and Anxiety/OCD/GAD; BPD; 2SLGBTQ+ Issues; and Family Conflict.
(365) 675-0480 View (365) 675-0480
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David Barnett
Registered Psychotherapist (Qualifying)
Verified Verified
2 Endorsed
Toronto, ON M4P  (Online Only)
My speciality is ADHD and the resulting symptoms and struggles that accompany it.
The client who's most suited to working with myself is someone who's interested in making changes in their lives and will bring their honest selves into therapy. It's someone who's struggling with challenges surrounding managing ADHD, anger, emotional regulation and addictive behaviours such as video game use. It's someone who wants to be in therapy with an individual who has gone through similar struggles and knows how to best empathize with, and assist them in working through their issues.
My speciality is ADHD and the resulting symptoms and struggles that accompany it.
The client who's most suited to working with myself is someone who's interested in making changes in their lives and will bring their honest selves into therapy. It's someone who's struggling with challenges surrounding managing ADHD, anger, emotional regulation and addictive behaviours such as video game use. It's someone who wants to be in therapy with an individual who has gone through similar struggles and knows how to best empathize with, and assist them in working through their issues.
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Mary Kwan
Registered Psychotherapist (Qualifying), MS
Verified Verified
Toronto, ON M5C
Having practiced as a Clinical Psychologist overseas for 20 years, I am very familiar with all kinds of conditions. If you are having relationship with your spouse or others, I can help. You might be stressed out trying to parent your children, whatever age they maybe and esp for offsprings who have ADHD, Autism or learning problems, I love to help. Or you maybe depressed, anxious, wanting to work out your inner issues so that you can be a happy person, I am here to give you a hand. Or you might have a lot of pain/stress in your life, with various kinds of addictions not knowing where to do, I am here to help you find your way out.
Having practiced as a Clinical Psychologist overseas for 20 years, I am very familiar with all kinds of conditions. If you are having relationship with your spouse or others, I can help. You might be stressed out trying to parent your children, whatever age they maybe and esp for offsprings who have ADHD, Autism or learning problems, I love to help. Or you maybe depressed, anxious, wanting to work out your inner issues so that you can be a happy person, I am here to give you a hand. Or you might have a lot of pain/stress in your life, with various kinds of addictions not knowing where to do, I am here to help you find your way out.
(437) 747-8155 View (437) 747-8155
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Julia Olsen
Registered Psychotherapist, MA, RP
Verified Verified
Toronto, ON M5R  (Online Only)
My practice focusses on adults who are themselves living with high functioning autism and/or HSP and/or ADHD. The sessions provide opportunities to talk in detail about one’s own unique experiences living with ASD or ADHD with someone who gets you. Engaging guided explorations lead to the revelation of blind spots and the discovery of ways to see things from new perspectives. Collaborative development of tailor-made strategies helps with communication, boundary-setting and the management of daily challenges. Sessions are free from judgement and you are supported to work at your own pace.
My practice focusses on adults who are themselves living with high functioning autism and/or HSP and/or ADHD. The sessions provide opportunities to talk in detail about one’s own unique experiences living with ASD or ADHD with someone who gets you. Engaging guided explorations lead to the revelation of blind spots and the discovery of ways to see things from new perspectives. Collaborative development of tailor-made strategies helps with communication, boundary-setting and the management of daily challenges. Sessions are free from judgement and you are supported to work at your own pace.
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Photo of Carly Ball, Registered Psychotherapist (Qualifying) in Toronto, ON
Carly Ball
Registered Psychotherapist (Qualifying), MA, RP(Q)
Verified Verified
1 Endorsed
Toronto, ON M5V
I'm a Registered Psychotherapist (Qualifying) and a member in good standing of the College of Registered Psychotherapists of Ontario (CRPO). I know taking the step to reach out for support requires great strength and courage. I hope to work alongside you, providing support and guidance and creating meaningful goals in your journey to rebuild your life and sense of self. I have worked with clients on a variety of mental health issues, including but not limited to anxiety, ADHD, depression, life transitions, coping with life changes, stress management, and self-esteem issues.
I'm a Registered Psychotherapist (Qualifying) and a member in good standing of the College of Registered Psychotherapists of Ontario (CRPO). I know taking the step to reach out for support requires great strength and courage. I hope to work alongside you, providing support and guidance and creating meaningful goals in your journey to rebuild your life and sense of self. I have worked with clients on a variety of mental health issues, including but not limited to anxiety, ADHD, depression, life transitions, coping with life changes, stress management, and self-esteem issues.
(437) 600-9623 View (437) 600-9623
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Possibilities Clinic
Psychiatrist, PhD, CPsych, RSW, CASLPO, OT Reg
Verified Verified
Toronto, ON M4S  (Online Only)
Possibilities Clinic offers a unique team approach on all diagnostic assessments and treatment plans which includes ADHD, Learning Disabilities, Tourette Syndrome/Tic Disorder, OCD, ASD and Early Language & Social Development. Possibilities Clinic serves children, teens, and adults across Ontario with in-person and Telemedicine assessments and treatments.
Possibilities Clinic offers a unique team approach on all diagnostic assessments and treatment plans which includes ADHD, Learning Disabilities, Tourette Syndrome/Tic Disorder, OCD, ASD and Early Language & Social Development. Possibilities Clinic serves children, teens, and adults across Ontario with in-person and Telemedicine assessments and treatments.
(647) 699-4288 View (647) 699-4288
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Dr. Karen Wilson
Psychologist, PhD
Verified Verified
1 Endorsed
Toronto, ON M5E
Hi! I'm Dr. Karen Wilson, a Clinical Neuropsychologist at MindFit, with over 17 years of experience and am registered in Ontario and California. I specialize in providing comprehensive assessments to children, teens and adults and have significant expertise working with individuals with: ADHD, executive functioning challenges, giftedness, learning disabilities, anxiety, low mood, and more. I am also an Assistant Clinical Professor at UCLA, sought after speaker, and founder of ChildNEXUS.com (providing information about neurodevelopmental challenges to parents).
Hi! I'm Dr. Karen Wilson, a Clinical Neuropsychologist at MindFit, with over 17 years of experience and am registered in Ontario and California. I specialize in providing comprehensive assessments to children, teens and adults and have significant expertise working with individuals with: ADHD, executive functioning challenges, giftedness, learning disabilities, anxiety, low mood, and more. I am also an Assistant Clinical Professor at UCLA, sought after speaker, and founder of ChildNEXUS.com (providing information about neurodevelopmental challenges to parents).
(437) 371-2443 View (437) 371-2443
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Amanda Morgan
Psychologist, PhD, CPsych
Verified Verified
1 Endorsed
Toronto, ON M6S
I am a Registered Clinical Psychologist in both B.C. and Ontario. I have worked with children and adults with autism, ADHD, developmental delays and learning disabilities for nearly 20yrs. I am also an adjunct professor at Tyndale University where my research studies have focused on ASD.
I am a Registered Clinical Psychologist in both B.C. and Ontario. I have worked with children and adults with autism, ADHD, developmental delays and learning disabilities for nearly 20yrs. I am also an adjunct professor at Tyndale University where my research studies have focused on ASD.
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Jora Shacter
Registered Social Worker, MSW, RSW
Verified Verified
2 Endorsed
Toronto, ON M4P  (Online Only)
Welcome! I work with career-minded people who struggle with ADHD, Anxiety, Trauma and Substance Use. I work with people who are in high-pressure or creative fields who feel they can be doing better, but struggle to get there on their own. I strive to create a warm, collaborative space where you can explore concerns and learn tools to cope. I understand everyone is at a different place in their journey, and I’ll meet you where you are at. I feel fortunate to have worked in many settings that uplift 2SLGBTQ+ and BIPOC populations.
Welcome! I work with career-minded people who struggle with ADHD, Anxiety, Trauma and Substance Use. I work with people who are in high-pressure or creative fields who feel they can be doing better, but struggle to get there on their own. I strive to create a warm, collaborative space where you can explore concerns and learn tools to cope. I understand everyone is at a different place in their journey, and I’ll meet you where you are at. I feel fortunate to have worked in many settings that uplift 2SLGBTQ+ and BIPOC populations.
(647) 250-9902 View (647) 250-9902
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Nadine Evans, Impart Therapy
Registered Psychotherapist, MACP, RP
Verified Verified
4 Endorsed
Toronto, ON M2R  (Online Only)
I have a special passion for helping people struggling with ADHD, anger, stress, grief, and anxiety, as well as women with menstrual issues, including pre-menstrual dysphoric disorder (PMDD) and severe PMS, perimenopause, and those coping with miscarriage.
My clients experience feelings of overwhelm, neglect, isolation, and anxiety. They feel drained and seeking a safe, inclusive environment where they can voice their concerns. Together, we delve into therapeutic approaches aimed at fostering connection and empathy, developing kindness and self-compassion, and devising strategies for coping and growth.
I have a special passion for helping people struggling with ADHD, anger, stress, grief, and anxiety, as well as women with menstrual issues, including pre-menstrual dysphoric disorder (PMDD) and severe PMS, perimenopause, and those coping with miscarriage.
My clients experience feelings of overwhelm, neglect, isolation, and anxiety. They feel drained and seeking a safe, inclusive environment where they can voice their concerns. Together, we delve into therapeutic approaches aimed at fostering connection and empathy, developing kindness and self-compassion, and devising strategies for coping and growth.
(289) 302-5802 View (289) 302-5802
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Adhd Counseling Adhd Coaching Tracey Wade
Registered Social Worker, BSW, MSW, RSW, AACC, ACSTH
Verified Verified
3 Endorsed
Toronto, ON M6K
Whether you self-identify as an ADHDer or love someone who is, if you want support from someone who really gets it, I can help. If you seek answers to the challenges that often go with being an ADHDer, or if you're newly diagnosed and seek guidance on moving forward, I can help. If overwhelm, stress, or anxiety is making it difficult to function, I can help. If you're feeling misunderstood, alone, frustrated or hopeless in a relationship with an ADHDer or non ADHD partner, I can help. If you seek a better connection with those who matter, but struggle to create healthy boundaries and communication, I can help.
Whether you self-identify as an ADHDer or love someone who is, if you want support from someone who really gets it, I can help. If you seek answers to the challenges that often go with being an ADHDer, or if you're newly diagnosed and seek guidance on moving forward, I can help. If overwhelm, stress, or anxiety is making it difficult to function, I can help. If you're feeling misunderstood, alone, frustrated or hopeless in a relationship with an ADHDer or non ADHD partner, I can help. If you seek a better connection with those who matter, but struggle to create healthy boundaries and communication, I can help.
(289) 302-7397 View (289) 302-7397
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Rachel Egan
Registered Social Worker, MSW, RSW
Verified Verified
Toronto, ON M5R  (Online Only)
Although I work comfortably with a wide range of issues, my primary focus is adult ADHD and neurodivergence, complex trauma, couples/relational work, and explorations of gender/sexuality.
Many folks come to me feeling overwhelmed, confused, or disconnected from their emotions or behaviours. They find themselves feeling triggered in relationships, or shy away from sharing their authentic selves with others. Some have significant struggles with their focus and can't consistently complete tasks they know are well within their abilities. When we don't know how or why this happens, a sense of powerlessness and shame creeps into our lives. Trust me, I understand confronting these issues is challenging and vulnerable. Changing these patterns is very possible and may be some of the most important work you do in your life.
Although I work comfortably with a wide range of issues, my primary focus is adult ADHD and neurodivergence, complex trauma, couples/relational work, and explorations of gender/sexuality.
Many folks come to me feeling overwhelmed, confused, or disconnected from their emotions or behaviours. They find themselves feeling triggered in relationships, or shy away from sharing their authentic selves with others. Some have significant struggles with their focus and can't consistently complete tasks they know are well within their abilities. When we don't know how or why this happens, a sense of powerlessness and shame creeps into our lives. Trust me, I understand confronting these issues is challenging and vulnerable. Changing these patterns is very possible and may be some of the most important work you do in your life.
(437) 500-6547 View (437) 500-6547
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Dr. Khuraman Mamedova
Psychologist, PhD, CPsych
Verified Verified
1 Endorsed
Toronto, ON M4S  (Online Only)
I conduct psychoeducational, ADHD and other neuropsychological assessments.
Every obstacle and difficulty has a meaning and function. Let me help you become aware, understand and grow from adversities. Clients often come with a preconceived notion that something is “wrong” with them or their choices. We will work together to understand what makes you "you" and understand your choices and decisions before we decide what you would like to shift or change. I help clients with anxiety, mood disorders, emotion regulation difficulties, psychosis, trauma, self-esteem and attachment issues as well as support people in their careers, including leadership coaching, managing work stress and assertiveness training.
I conduct psychoeducational, ADHD and other neuropsychological assessments.
Every obstacle and difficulty has a meaning and function. Let me help you become aware, understand and grow from adversities. Clients often come with a preconceived notion that something is “wrong” with them or their choices. We will work together to understand what makes you "you" and understand your choices and decisions before we decide what you would like to shift or change. I help clients with anxiety, mood disorders, emotion regulation difficulties, psychosis, trauma, self-esteem and attachment issues as well as support people in their careers, including leadership coaching, managing work stress and assertiveness training.
(647) 372-2304 View (647) 372-2304
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Mike Stroh
Registered Psychotherapist, MACP, RP - Q
Verified Verified
3 Endorsed
Toronto, ON M6G
As a therapist, my fundamental goal is to help and encourage you to look at the difficult parts of your life that are holding you back, while simultaneously helping you to cultivate the skills to live your life in a manner that is mentally healthy and purpose driven. I work with people struggling with ADHD, addiction (specializing in cannabis), anxiety, and those having difficulty in their marriage or settling into a committed relationship. I also like to help people who feel lost in their life or who feel unfulfilled by their current profession and who hope to bring more meaning into their lives.
As a therapist, my fundamental goal is to help and encourage you to look at the difficult parts of your life that are holding you back, while simultaneously helping you to cultivate the skills to live your life in a manner that is mentally healthy and purpose driven. I work with people struggling with ADHD, addiction (specializing in cannabis), anxiety, and those having difficulty in their marriage or settling into a committed relationship. I also like to help people who feel lost in their life or who feel unfulfilled by their current profession and who hope to bring more meaning into their lives.
(647) 492-4029 View (647) 492-4029
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Samantha Chase
Registered Social Worker, MSW, RSW
Verified Verified
Toronto, ON M4Y
Whether you're seeking stress management tips, stronger connections, personal growth, or just someone to help with life changes, I'm here to support you on your journey. Together, we will navigate the complexities of ADHD, fostering self-awareness and building impactful executive skills. My therapeutic approach is rooted in empathy and evidence-based practices. I specialize in working with professionals with ADHD, providing tailored interventions to address challenges such as procrastination, stress/overwhelm, organization, and overall well-being.
Whether you're seeking stress management tips, stronger connections, personal growth, or just someone to help with life changes, I'm here to support you on your journey. Together, we will navigate the complexities of ADHD, fostering self-awareness and building impactful executive skills. My therapeutic approach is rooted in empathy and evidence-based practices. I specialize in working with professionals with ADHD, providing tailored interventions to address challenges such as procrastination, stress/overwhelm, organization, and overall well-being.
(289) 768-8315 View (289) 768-8315

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When should I seek treatment for ADHD?

You should seek treatment for ADHD if you consistently have difficulty with attention, hyperactivity, or impulsivity that interferes with your daily life. Symptoms of ADHD include the inability to sustain attention during tasks, difficulty organizing tasks and activities, being easily distracted, frequent fidgeting or squirming, and talking or interrupting excessively. If these symptoms interfere with your career, academics, or relationships—for example, consistently failing to complete professional projects on time—you should seek an evaluation for ADHD.

How does treatment for ADHD work?

Effective treatment for ADHD often consists of medication, behavioral therapy, and lifestyle changes. Stimulant medications such as Adderall and Ritalin work by altering levels of neurotransmitters in the brain; higher levels of dopamine and norepinephrine are known to improve attention and focus. Therapy works by helping people with ADHD understand the condition, discuss their areas of difficulty, and develop behavioral strategies to manage their symptoms. In some cases, modifying one’s diet and exercise can also help improve symptoms.

Are there specific medications for ADHD?

Medications to treat ADHD are generally stimulants, the most common are Adderall and Ritalin. There are two categories of stimulants: Amphetamines include Adderall, Dyanavel, Vyvanse, and Dexedrine, and methylphenidates include Ritalin, Concerta, Daytrana, Focalin, Quillichew, Quillivant, and Metadate. Non-stimulants and antidepressants may be used as an alternative if stimulants aren’t effective or viable for a particular patient.

How long does treatment for ADHD take?

It’s tough to give an exact time frame because everyone varies. In terms of medications, stimulants begin to work very soon after you take them, generally within the hour. It may take time to identify the right medication and dosage, but the medication itself is fast-acting. In terms of therapy, it takes time to develop skills and put them into practice, but you will likely see improvements within a few weeks or months.