Therapists in M2N

Photo of Barb Mancini - Step Stone Psychology, Psychologist, PhD, CPsych
Step Stone Psychology
Psychologist, PhD, CPsych
Toronto, ON M2N
We support individuals and families across the lifespan who are navigating anxiety, mood concerns, identity exploration, neurodiversity, relationship challenges, or complex life transitions. Many of our clients come to us feeling overwhelmed, misunderstood, or unsure of their next steps. Our team offers thoughtful, evidence-based care tailored to each person’s unique story, helping clients build insight, develop practical skills, and move toward a more grounded, connected, and meaningful life.
We support individuals and families across the lifespan who are navigating anxiety, mood concerns, identity exploration, neurodiversity, relationship challenges, or complex life transitions. Many of our clients come to us feeling overwhelmed, misunderstood, or unsure of their next steps. Our team offers thoughtful, evidence-based care tailored to each person’s unique story, helping clients build insight, develop practical skills, and move toward a more grounded, connected, and meaningful life.
(289) 277-2093 View (289) 277-2093
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Maryam Ashkan
Registered Psychotherapist, MA, RP
2 Endorsed
Toronto, ON M2N
You have likely tried to make sense of what is happening and intellectually, part of you does. You can trace the patterns, name what contributed to them, explain yourself clearly. And yet something has not shifted. The exhaustion persists. The emotional flooding, the numbness, the quiet disconnection from yourself and from others. You may not call it trauma. You may describe it as anxiety, as difficult relationships, as a life that was simply hard in ways that were never fully acknowledged. You are not looking for more strategies to manage this. You are looking for something that reaches the part of you insight alone has not touched
You have likely tried to make sense of what is happening and intellectually, part of you does. You can trace the patterns, name what contributed to them, explain yourself clearly. And yet something has not shifted. The exhaustion persists. The emotional flooding, the numbness, the quiet disconnection from yourself and from others. You may not call it trauma. You may describe it as anxiety, as difficult relationships, as a life that was simply hard in ways that were never fully acknowledged. You are not looking for more strategies to manage this. You are looking for something that reaches the part of you insight alone has not touched
(289) 807-1186 View (289) 807-1186
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Marsha Nicholas
Registered Psychotherapist, RP
Toronto, ON M2N
I am an experienced Registered Psychotherapist who specializes in youths and adults who may be experiencing various mental health challenges including anxiety, depression, relationship difficulties, disordered eating, substance use disorder, and emotional dysregulation.
I am an experienced Registered Psychotherapist who specializes in youths and adults who may be experiencing various mental health challenges including anxiety, depression, relationship difficulties, disordered eating, substance use disorder, and emotional dysregulation.
(249) 504-2934 View (249) 504-2934
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Joanna Zhao
Registered Social Worker, RSW, MSW, BSW
North York, ON M2N
I take a client-centered approach that respect people as the authority on their own experiences and recognize the key role that emotions play in our lives. My counseling work is informed by various therapeutic modalities as well as by my extensive clinical experiences, but always with a focus on the uniqueness of each individual. Over the years, I have effectively helped many people adjust for better lives - helping them learn the strategies and tools necessary to resolve their difficulties and build on their strengths.
I take a client-centered approach that respect people as the authority on their own experiences and recognize the key role that emotions play in our lives. My counseling work is informed by various therapeutic modalities as well as by my extensive clinical experiences, but always with a focus on the uniqueness of each individual. Over the years, I have effectively helped many people adjust for better lives - helping them learn the strategies and tools necessary to resolve their difficulties and build on their strengths.
(647) 503-4686 View (647) 503-4686
Photo of Catherine Pettigrew - ADHD Autism Assessments/Treatments Cathy Pettigrew, Counsellor, MScEd
Struggling with overwhelm, lack of focus & motivation, breakdowns or meltdowns? You’re not alone – and you don’t have to keep guessing what works. ADHD, Autism & learning disabilities make it hard to focus, can make you impulsive, can take away motivation. I can help. From assessments to effective, non-medicinal solutions, we work together to find your path to peace & success. You may think it's depression or anxiety, laziness or attention-seeking behaviour, but these are actually symptoms of ADHD, Autism, or learning disabilities. Our assessments are affordable, with low wait times, to get you the help you need NOW.
Struggling with overwhelm, lack of focus & motivation, breakdowns or meltdowns? You’re not alone – and you don’t have to keep guessing what works. ADHD, Autism & learning disabilities make it hard to focus, can make you impulsive, can take away motivation. I can help. From assessments to effective, non-medicinal solutions, we work together to find your path to peace & success. You may think it's depression or anxiety, laziness or attention-seeking behaviour, but these are actually symptoms of ADHD, Autism, or learning disabilities. Our assessments are affordable, with low wait times, to get you the help you need NOW.
(365) 617-1312 View (365) 617-1312
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Parag Ray
Registered Social Worker, BA, BSW, MSW, RSW
Toronto, ON M2N
I specialize in forensic clinical mechanics for high-conflict families and legal professionals. My ideal clients are those navigating complex litigation, parental alienation, or reintegration challenges. Clients come to my practice when they are "stuck" in the Ontario legal system and require timely, evidentiary clarity through Voice of the Child or Section 30 reports. At Ontario Family Solutions, we move families forward by shifting from incident-based conflict to pattern-based solutions. We provide the forensic "architecture" and clear exit strategies necessary to resolve entrenched disputes and restore child-focused outcomes.
I specialize in forensic clinical mechanics for high-conflict families and legal professionals. My ideal clients are those navigating complex litigation, parental alienation, or reintegration challenges. Clients come to my practice when they are "stuck" in the Ontario legal system and require timely, evidentiary clarity through Voice of the Child or Section 30 reports. At Ontario Family Solutions, we move families forward by shifting from incident-based conflict to pattern-based solutions. We provide the forensic "architecture" and clear exit strategies necessary to resolve entrenched disputes and restore child-focused outcomes.
(289) 277-9392 View (289) 277-9392
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Carly Clifton
Registered Psychotherapist, MSc, BAH, RP, OACCPP
3 Endorsed
Toronto, ON M2N
Do you often find yourself living in the past, dwelling on things that have happened, or living in the future, worrying about what might happen? Are you feeling stuck in your relationship with communication breakdowns, trust issues, intimacy problems, unresolved conflicts, or navigating parenting? Together, we can address these challenges and find solutions. I can provide clarity, motivation, and help you put into words what you are experiencing. Let me help you reach your true potential!
Do you often find yourself living in the past, dwelling on things that have happened, or living in the future, worrying about what might happen? Are you feeling stuck in your relationship with communication breakdowns, trust issues, intimacy problems, unresolved conflicts, or navigating parenting? Together, we can address these challenges and find solutions. I can provide clarity, motivation, and help you put into words what you are experiencing. Let me help you reach your true potential!
(416) 232-2780 View (416) 232-2780
Photo of Sara Saniee, Registered Social Worker, MSW, RSW
Sara Saniee
Registered Social Worker, MSW, RSW
1 Endorsed
Toronto, ON M2N
Have you been feeling stuck in the same cycles of anxiety, low mood, or numbness... doing everything you can, yet still feeling unsettled? You’re not alone. And nothing is “wrong” with you. Change often begins when we gently acknowledge that hiding behind the “I’m okay” armor is no longer serving us. Root-cause therapy looks beneath symptoms to the unprocessed experiences your nervous system (mind and body) has been holding onto. By addressing these deeper layers, therapy helps loosen fear, self-doubt, and old wounds, so you can regain a sense of agency, feel more alive, and build deeper, safer connections in your life.
Have you been feeling stuck in the same cycles of anxiety, low mood, or numbness... doing everything you can, yet still feeling unsettled? You’re not alone. And nothing is “wrong” with you. Change often begins when we gently acknowledge that hiding behind the “I’m okay” armor is no longer serving us. Root-cause therapy looks beneath symptoms to the unprocessed experiences your nervous system (mind and body) has been holding onto. By addressing these deeper layers, therapy helps loosen fear, self-doubt, and old wounds, so you can regain a sense of agency, feel more alive, and build deeper, safer connections in your life.
(289) 797-3238 View (289) 797-3238
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Briana Goldberg
Pre-Licensed Professional, MA
Toronto, ON M2N
I provide neurodivergent couples therapy and online autism, ADHD, and AuDHD assessments for adults, with a focus on recognizing subtle and masked presentations. I have experience assessing women whose challenges may intensify during hormonal changes such as menstruation, pregnancy, postpartum, and perimenopause. You deserve a comprehensive, neuroaffirming diagnostic assessment that nurtures self-understanding, guides you with a clear path forward, and connects you to the supports you need to live authentically.
I provide neurodivergent couples therapy and online autism, ADHD, and AuDHD assessments for adults, with a focus on recognizing subtle and masked presentations. I have experience assessing women whose challenges may intensify during hormonal changes such as menstruation, pregnancy, postpartum, and perimenopause. You deserve a comprehensive, neuroaffirming diagnostic assessment that nurtures self-understanding, guides you with a clear path forward, and connects you to the supports you need to live authentically.
(365) 832-6198 View (365) 832-6198
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Anastasia Maltseva
Registered Psychotherapist (Qualifying), M.A., RPQ
1 Endorsed
Toronto, ON M2N
NOW accepting new clients. Hi, I’m Anastasia. I help people who feel held back by anxiety in their career and everyday life. If world uncertainty feels unsafe, you find yourself overplanning, or you worry a lot about how others feel about you, this can be hard to carry on your own.
NOW accepting new clients. Hi, I’m Anastasia. I help people who feel held back by anxiety in their career and everyday life. If world uncertainty feels unsafe, you find yourself overplanning, or you worry a lot about how others feel about you, this can be hard to carry on your own.
(437) 747-4958 View (437) 747-4958
Photo of Gordana Sorial, Registered Psychotherapist, MA, RP
Gordana Sorial
Registered Psychotherapist, MA, RP
9 Endorsed
Toronto, ON M2N
Do you feel like your mind is constantly spinning, overthinking, replaying conversations, and worrying about things that haven’t even happened yet? Maybe you're functioning on the outside, going through the motions, but inside you feel exhausted, disconnected, or like you're barely keeping it together. Many people I work with share this quiet struggle, trying to manage everyday life while feeling overwhelmed, stuck, or like they’ve lost touch with who they are. If that resonates with you, you’re not alone, and things don’t have to stay this way.
Do you feel like your mind is constantly spinning, overthinking, replaying conversations, and worrying about things that haven’t even happened yet? Maybe you're functioning on the outside, going through the motions, but inside you feel exhausted, disconnected, or like you're barely keeping it together. Many people I work with share this quiet struggle, trying to manage everyday life while feeling overwhelmed, stuck, or like they’ve lost touch with who they are. If that resonates with you, you’re not alone, and things don’t have to stay this way.
(289) 301-9376 View (289) 301-9376
Photo of Somia Ebrahem, Registered Psychotherapist (Qualifying), MACP, MBBS
Somia Ebrahem
Registered Psychotherapist (Qualifying), MACP, MBBS
1 Endorsed
Toronto, ON M2N
Have you been feeling stuck in survival mode, disconnected from your body, your needs, or the people around you? As a physician with a background in psychiatry and a Registered Psychotherapist (Qualifying), I practice under clinical supervision and work with individuals experiencing stress, anxiety, adverse childhood experiences, and identity-related challenges. Many of the people I support feel overwhelmed or emotionally numb. They often understand what feels wrong at a surface level, yet struggle to create meaningful and lasting change.
Have you been feeling stuck in survival mode, disconnected from your body, your needs, or the people around you? As a physician with a background in psychiatry and a Registered Psychotherapist (Qualifying), I practice under clinical supervision and work with individuals experiencing stress, anxiety, adverse childhood experiences, and identity-related challenges. Many of the people I support feel overwhelmed or emotionally numb. They often understand what feels wrong at a surface level, yet struggle to create meaningful and lasting change.
(437) 494-5824 View (437) 494-5824
Photo of Edward Lin, Registered Psychotherapist (Qualifying), MEd
Edward Lin
Registered Psychotherapist (Qualifying), MEd
Toronto, ON M2N
Being stuck in anxiety, OCD, or perfectionism can feel exhausting. Your mind never stops, but nothing changes. You don’t have to stay in that loop alone. Together, we can slow things down, understand what’s happening, and choose small, realistic steps forward. I also enjoy working with people who are exploring who they are and where they fit, especially when culture, gender, and relationships all intersect. If you think deeply but feel emotionally stuck, we can work together to move from insight into real, lasting change.
Being stuck in anxiety, OCD, or perfectionism can feel exhausting. Your mind never stops, but nothing changes. You don’t have to stay in that loop alone. Together, we can slow things down, understand what’s happening, and choose small, realistic steps forward. I also enjoy working with people who are exploring who they are and where they fit, especially when culture, gender, and relationships all intersect. If you think deeply but feel emotionally stuck, we can work together to move from insight into real, lasting change.
(855) 770-5672 View (855) 770-5672
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Tina Emadi
Registered Psychotherapist, MA, PR, MD
3 Endorsed
North York, ON M2N
Life is full of changes, losses, transitions, and trials that can feel cruel and overwhelming. Navigating the stress and uncertainty of these experiences can often be daunting and may require more than just personal strength; it’s okay to seek support. I firmly believe that everyone possesses the potential for growth and transformation. Therapy serves as a valuable tool to help unlock that potential, providing a safe space to explore feelings, gain insights, and develop coping strategies. Together, we can work through the challenges you face, empowering you to emerge stronger and more resilient.
Life is full of changes, losses, transitions, and trials that can feel cruel and overwhelming. Navigating the stress and uncertainty of these experiences can often be daunting and may require more than just personal strength; it’s okay to seek support. I firmly believe that everyone possesses the potential for growth and transformation. Therapy serves as a valuable tool to help unlock that potential, providing a safe space to explore feelings, gain insights, and develop coping strategies. Together, we can work through the challenges you face, empowering you to emerge stronger and more resilient.
(289) 271-0915 View (289) 271-0915
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Sunny Choi
Registered Psychotherapist (Qualifying), BSc, MDiv, MPS
Toronto, ON M2N
Hi! My name is Sunny and I specialize in providing holistic psychotherapy to clients as I walk alongside them in their journey of being human. I believe that every person has the potential to live out their lives freely and fully, despite the limiting circumstances- and the journey maybe richer with a little bit of professional guidance and help!
Hi! My name is Sunny and I specialize in providing holistic psychotherapy to clients as I walk alongside them in their journey of being human. I believe that every person has the potential to live out their lives freely and fully, despite the limiting circumstances- and the journey maybe richer with a little bit of professional guidance and help!
(289) 276-5929 View (289) 276-5929
Photo of Ayleen Gutierrez, Registered Psychotherapist (Qualifying), BSc, MACP
Ayleen Gutierrez
Registered Psychotherapist (Qualifying), BSc, MACP
1 Endorsed
North York, ON M2N
Are you noticing anxiety, panic attacks, trauma, or family conflict while navigating life in Toronto's diverse GTA communities like North York, Etobicoke, Mississauga, or Brampton? I provide specialized anxiety therapy, PTSD recovery, domestic violence support, and family counselling in English or Spanish, helping Hispanic/Latino adults, teens, couples, and families regain emotional balance, cultural clarity, and resilience. With over 25 years in vocational counselling and child protection, I understand how stress, burnout, relationship strain, addiction challenges, parenting pressures, and acculturation affect you. No waiting list
Are you noticing anxiety, panic attacks, trauma, or family conflict while navigating life in Toronto's diverse GTA communities like North York, Etobicoke, Mississauga, or Brampton? I provide specialized anxiety therapy, PTSD recovery, domestic violence support, and family counselling in English or Spanish, helping Hispanic/Latino adults, teens, couples, and families regain emotional balance, cultural clarity, and resilience. With over 25 years in vocational counselling and child protection, I understand how stress, burnout, relationship strain, addiction challenges, parenting pressures, and acculturation affect you. No waiting list
(365) 653-5985 View (365) 653-5985
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Elevare (formerly EMDR Trauma Therapy Centre)
Registered Social Worker, MSW, RSW
Toronto, ON M2N
Do you find yourself asking, "How do I get past this?" The number one struggle people often express when they talk about their emotional pain is feeling stuck. If you are experiencing an inability to move forward in your career, relationship or you are struggling to find the joy in life you once felt, you may be experiencing the effects of unresolved trauma or unmet attachment needs. This can manifest in physical symptoms such as chronic pain, headaches, and fatigue. We take the time to understand you as a person who has a lived experience that has brought you here.
Do you find yourself asking, "How do I get past this?" The number one struggle people often express when they talk about their emotional pain is feeling stuck. If you are experiencing an inability to move forward in your career, relationship or you are struggling to find the joy in life you once felt, you may be experiencing the effects of unresolved trauma or unmet attachment needs. This can manifest in physical symptoms such as chronic pain, headaches, and fatigue. We take the time to understand you as a person who has a lived experience that has brought you here.
(289) 301-7852 View (289) 301-7852
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Lynn Qi
Registered Psychotherapist, MEd, RP
1 Endorsed
North York, ON M2N
Life is a journey full of ups and downs, twists and turns. So, of course, we all stumble, fall, or get off track along the way. The reasons are numerous, and the stumbles and falls can sometimes feel extremely painful. We can feel confused, stressed, discouraged, and sad. We are all human, and we all need someone to help us along the journey. Let me walk with you and begin the journey to health and healing.
Life is a journey full of ups and downs, twists and turns. So, of course, we all stumble, fall, or get off track along the way. The reasons are numerous, and the stumbles and falls can sometimes feel extremely painful. We can feel confused, stressed, discouraged, and sad. We are all human, and we all need someone to help us along the journey. Let me walk with you and begin the journey to health and healing.
(289) 217-4367 View (289) 217-4367
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HART Centre for Psychology
Psychologist, PhD
3 Endorsed
North York, ON M2N
At HART Centre for Psychology, we are a team of registered mental health providers who work collaboratively with adults in Toronto and across Ontario. We provide a welcoming, safe, and inclusive space to help you achieve healing and recovery. We offer confidential, personalized, evidence-based assessment and treatment services, both in person and/or virtually, for a wide range of challenges to provide meaningful and lasting change
At HART Centre for Psychology, we are a team of registered mental health providers who work collaboratively with adults in Toronto and across Ontario. We provide a welcoming, safe, and inclusive space to help you achieve healing and recovery. We offer confidential, personalized, evidence-based assessment and treatment services, both in person and/or virtually, for a wide range of challenges to provide meaningful and lasting change
(365) 517-4054 View (365) 517-4054
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Wellpeak Psychotherapy
Registered Social Worker, MSW, RSW
Toronto, ON M2N
Life can feel overwhelming, and sometimes, we carry pain and patterns that are hard to break on our own. Whether you're navigating anxiety, trauma, or life transitions, I offer a space where you can process, heal, and move forward at your own pace.
Life can feel overwhelming, and sometimes, we carry pain and patterns that are hard to break on our own. Whether you're navigating anxiety, trauma, or life transitions, I offer a space where you can process, heal, and move forward at your own pace.
(365) 398-8037 View (365) 398-8037

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How does your Counsellor compare?

Number of Counsellors in M2N

400+

Average cost per session

$163

Counsellors in M2N who prioritize treating:

96% Anxiety
92% Depression
84% Relationship Issues
84% Self Esteem
83% Stress
71% Trauma and PTSD
66% Grief

Average years in practice

9 Years

Top 3 insurances accepted

84% SunLife
80% Manulife
77% Green Shield Canada

How Counsellors in M2N see their clients

53% Online Only
47% In Person and Online

Gender breakdown

82% Female
17% Male
1% Non-Binary
FAQs - About Therapy and Counselling

How can I find a therapist in M2N?

Search for nearby therapists or counsellors by inputting your city, postal code, or a provider’s name into the search bar. From there, you can filter providers by the issues they treat, cost, insurance, gender, and other factors to find providers who are well-suited to your needs. To navigate between locations within the same country, enter a new city or postal code into the search bar.

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Is everyone in the Psychology Today Therapy Directory a licensed therapist?

Most Counsellors and Psychotherapists listed in the directory are certified by one of the main professional associations, mainly the Canadian Counselling and Psychotherapy Association (CCPA), and will have a Certified Canadian Counsellor (CCC) designation with their name. Social Workers listed in the directory must be registered members of the college specific to their province. To be listed in the directory, Psychologists must be registered with the psychological college specific to their province or territory.

Providers whose professional membership or primary credential has been verified by Psychology Today are signified by a “Verified” symbol. Given the considerable variation in professional regulation and prerequisites across Canadian provinces, some providers may possess significant professional qualifications without necessarily holding professional memberships or being obliged to acquire them. As a result, they may be selectively included without the "Verified" seal.

What’s the difference between a psychologist, a therapist, and a counsellor?

Psychologists, counsellors, psychotherapists and social workers can all provide counselling or talking therapy and have credentials and supervised, practical experience that enable them to do so in Canada.

Psychologists have a master's and/or doctoral degree and have passed both written and oral exams. Psychologists are able to complete mental health assessments and provide diagnostic information to clients as well as provide counselling therapy or psychotherapy. Counsellors and psychotherapists are expected to have a master's or doctoral degree in counselling psychology, social work, or a related mental health discipline and certification by a professional association, such as the Canadian Counselling and Psychotherapy Association. Registered Social Workers possess a Bachelor's or Master's degree in Social Work and where possible must be licensed or certified by the provincial government and/or regulatory college.

What type of therapy is right for me?

The type of therapy best suited to a particular individual depends on several factors, including their primary reason for seeking therapy, their preferred timeline (some therapy types last for a set number of sessions, while others are open-ended), and their personality and preferences—some may prefer a more structured approach. For many individuals, multiple types of therapy could provide a good fit.

How much does therapy cost?

The cost of therapy depends on a number of variables, including location and the therapist’s experience and training. On average, the cost of a therapy session in Canada could be between $100 and $200. If you have insurance, the expense of mental health care is typically lower, but it varies based on your insurance plan details and whether you choose an in-network or out-of-network mental healthcare provider.

What are more affordable or low cost therapy solutions?

Many therapists offer sliding scale payments, usually on a limited number of slots, which consists in an agreement between the therapist and a client to pay a reduced rate. Therapists who provide such arrangements often consider the client's income or ability to pay, but the extent of the discount is ultimately at the therapist's discretion. Furthermore, while group therapy may have different goals and benefits compared to individual therapy, it can be a more affordable solution to address certain types of issues.

If you are struggling to access therapy due to budget constraints, you could also consider public funded mental health services. Some types of outpatient mental health services are covered by Medicare, provided these are performed by a licensed mental health professional in the provinces or territory you reside in and who accepts the assignment.

Is online therapy cheaper than in-person therapy?

Many therapists charge the same amount for online therapy as they do for in-person therapy—though clients may still find this cost-effective if it cuts down on their transportation costs. Health insurance plans often offer equivalent coverage for online and in-person therapy; indeed, in many places, they are legally required to do so. Text-based or on-demand therapy apps may be cheaper than traditional one-on-one psychotherapy; however, the practice may be less effective and is not likely to be covered by insurance.

Is online therapy a good option?

Therapy conducted online can be just as effective as in-person therapy, as long as there is a strong alliance between the client and the therapist. To find a therapist who provides telehealth services to clients in your area, click “Online Therapy” on the directory homepage and search by your city or town or your postal code.

Are therapy sessions confidential?

Professionals licensed by regulatory colleges and those certified by associations such as the Canadian Counselling and Psychotherapy Association are obligated to uphold client confidentiality unless there is a legal reason that requires them to disclose information. Confidentiality is a crucial part of the therapeutic relationship and only under specific circumstances, such as when there is the potential or known harm to the client or others, or a court order, will a therapist be obligated to break the agreement. These exceptions to the confidentiality agreement are usually discussed during the initial consultation.