I have to disagree. The only way I could heal was to cut them off. I don't need them in my life to forgive them and detach. Why on earth would I want to be in a relationship with toxic people? Sorry, but blood isn't enough.

Toxic relationships include relationships with toxic parents. Typically, they do not treat their children with respect as individuals. They won’t compromise, take responsibility for their behavior, or apologize. Often these parents have a mental disorder or a serious addiction. We all live with the consequences of poor parenting. However, if our childhood was traumatic, we carry wounds from abusive or dysfunctional parenting. When they haven’t healed, toxic parents can re-injure us in ways that make growth and recovery difficult. When we grow up with dysfunctional parenting, we may not recognize it as such. It feels familiar and normal. We may be in denial and not realize that we’ve been abused emotionally, particularly if our material needs were met.
Toxic Behavior
Here are some questions to ask yourself about your parents’ behavior. If this conduct is chronic and persistent, it can be toxic to your self-esteem.
- Do they tend to overreact or create a scene?
- Do they use emotional blackmail?
- Do they make frequent or unreasonable demands?
- Do they try to control you? (“My way or the highway"?)
- Do they criticize or compare you?
- Do they listen to you with interest?
- Do they manipulate, use guilt, or play the victim?
- Do they blame or attack you?
- Do they take responsibility and apologize?
- Do they respect your physical and emotional boundaries?
- Do they disregard your feelings and needs?
- Do they envy or compete with you?
Detach from Toxic Parents
Detaching is an emotional concept and has nothing to do with physical proximity. It means not reacting, not taking things personally, and not feeling responsible for someone else’s feelings, wants, and needs. Our parents can easily push our buttons. That’s because they’re the ones that put them there! It’s harder to not react to our parents than to our friends and partners, with whom we’re on more equal footing. Even if you move as far away as you can, emotionally you may still react and have trouble detaching.
Be Assertive and Set Boundaries
Sometimes, it’s impossible to hold on to healthy behavior when we’re around our parents. Our boundaries were learned in our family. If we don’t go along, our family, especially parents, may test us. You may have trouble setting new boundaries with your parents. Perhaps you have a mom who calls every day, or a sibling who wants to borrow money or is abusing drugs. Confused, they may attack you or blame your new limits on your partner or therapist.
Relationships with toxic parents can be hard to walk away from. You may need distance from your parents to create the boundaries that you’re unable to make verbally. Some people cut off from family for that reason or due to unresolved anger and resentment from childhood. Cutoffs may be necessary in very abusive environments. However, although they reduce emotional tension, the underlying problems remain and can affect all of your relationships. Many family therapists suggest that the ideal way to become independent from your family is to work on yourself in therapy, then visit your parents and practice what you’ve learned. It’s far better for your growth to learn how to respond to abuse. I’ve witnessed clients who felt uncomfortable returning home do this. They gradually transitioned from reluctantly staying in their parents’ residence during visits, to becoming comfortable declining invitations home, to staying in a hotel or with friends without guilt. Some could eventually stay with their parents and enjoy it.
When you visit, pay attention to unspoken rules and the boundary and communication patterns. Try behaving in a way that’s different from the role you played growing up. Pay attention to the habits and defenses you use to manage anxiety. Ask yourself, “What am I afraid of?” Remember that although you may feel like a child with your parents, you aren’t one. You’re now a powerful adult. You can leave, unlike when you were a child.
Where active drug addiction and abuse are present, consider what boundaries you require in order to feel comfortable. Know your bottom line. Is it a one-day or one-hour visit or only a short phone call? Some adult children of addicted parents refuse to talk on the phone or be around them when their parents are drinking or using drugs. You may have siblings who pressure you to rescue a parent, or you may be tempted to do so. With difficult family situations, it’s helpful to talk with a therapist or other people in recovery from codependency.
Some Truths About Having Toxic Parents
Healing a relationship begins with you — your feelings and attitudes. Sometimes working on yourself is all it takes. That doesn’t imply that your parents will change, but you will. Sometimes forgiveness is necessary, or a conversation is required. Here are some things to think about when it comes to your family:*
- Your parents don’t have to heal for you to get well.
- Cutoffs don’t heal.
- You are not your parents.
- You're not the abusive things they say about you either.
- You don’t have to like your parents, but you might still be attached and love them.
- Active addiction or abuse by a parent may trigger you. Set boundaries and practice non-attachment.
- You can’t change or rescue family members.
- Indifference, not hatred or anger, is the opposite of love.
- Hating someone interferes with loving yourself.
- Unresolved anger and resentment hurt you.
©Darlene Lancer 2018. Adapted from Lancer, D., Codependency for Dummies 2nd Edition (2014), Wiley & Sons Publishers
also disagree about the cut-offs
I have to disagree with the article and agree with Heather on the cut-offs. I had a relationship with a parent who could easily induce panic attacks/ flashbacks by pushing my buttons. We didn't talk for 5 years- my decision. It was difficult, but during that time I was able to release so much anger and resentment and really detach and heal. It was the best thing I ever did. We now have had a relationship that I am happy with for the past 6 years, even if her former behavior were to return it would not trigger me the way it used to. The control is no longer there and it made all the difference. Overall good article though.
Cut-offs
Thank you for sharing your success story. As I say, "Cutoffs may be necessary in very abusive environments." You didn't just cut-off, you did a lot of emotional work that was healing and changed your relationship!
I have a news for you and
I have a news for you and kind off reversed situation: I have a toxic daughter and cut-off the relationship for 11 years by now. And guess what - my life became much happier and full. I forgot (rather trying to forget things what she did to me) but never forgive. Never.
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Agree with Heather
Yes I agree with Heather also. Especially if a family member eventually turns physical and breaks bones. You can still, in your quiet moments, wish for them to find some peace, but cutting off is definitely the only way to protect yourself. Otherwise, where are the consequences for their por behaviour towards you? The same for individuals that constantly break boundaries and treat you as a human doing not a human being. Blood is not thicker than water. Family are the people you choose to be in the VIP section of your world. Check out Terri Cole.
Forgiveness
Forgiveness is for you. It does NOT mean forgetting. Please see my website blog on "The Challenge of Forgiveness." Carrying around hate or anger hurts us. As far as having a relationship, that really depends on the extent of the current abuse. Every situation is different. And it certainly can be helpful until a person can set firm boundaries with a parent. Discussing this and your options with a therapist can be beneficial.
Forgiveness
Oh, trust me...I have forgiven for my own health, but I will never forget. I'm working on forgiving myself for allowing it to go on for so long. I still have the question of WHY we abused kids should want a relationship with parents who do not have the capacity to respect us or care about how their behavior impacts us. I think the advice to pursue a relationship with them is dangerous. In my opinion, the onus is on them to decide that they care enough about us to try to repair the relationship. I'm done trying. It only hurts me. I'd rather find people who have the capacity to care and accept me and make them part of my new, real family.
Today I am reading how to
Today I am reading how to resolve this ongoing drama of a mother who was emotionally absent, verbally demeaning and now today still haunting me with guilt trips at 47. I have taken a couple years away from her but she's begging me to not leave her while still making excuses for her behavior and "apologizing." I think I'm tired of all this. It hurts to have a breakdown with my mother but not sure I want to return. Do you still think it has been beneficial to cut-off?
Cut-offs
There's been lots of opinions here on the benefits or not of cut-offs. It's unlikely a parent would change unless she he got some therapy, but the same might apply to the child. I don't know whether it's helped you to become more confident and stronger. By learning to set boundaries, however, you can change the drama and limit the time you interact. Your leverage is that she wants to talk to you. But you need emotionally detach and to learn to educate her that certain comments, etc., will send you away again. Hopefully, she'll begrudgingly modify her behavior. that way it can become a modest win-win, alleviating some of your guilt and hurt and her pain, too. It may not work, but others have had success by putting into practice the strategies in my ebook, "Dealing with a Narcissist: 8 Steps to Raise Self-Esteem and Set Boundaries with Difficult People"
Cut offs
Hi Pam, I think you might be asking someone else, but I wanted to chime in. I cut off my mom for 5 years. The only contact I made during those years was sending her a card when her dad died. It was excruciatingly painful, especially the first 1.5 years, I think I was grieving and processing. For me it was worth it though, I wouldn’t take it back. It allowed me to let go of tons of anger, resentment and so on. It allowed me to accept my mom as she is, even if that isn’t the mom I once needed. I also found when I let her back in she’s no longer a trigger for me. I would say if you do cut off keep in mind that it’s about you and that’s the only person you can work on and heal. Your mom may not be willing and that’s okay, her work is on her. ACA meetings may be helpful too even if you don’t have addiction in your family you would be in good company.
Cut-offs
Thank you, Molly. I decided to give it a chance so we gathered for Christmas at my sisters (neutral ground). So far, so good. Dealing with her, although difficult sometimes, is far less stressful on my mind/heart than being cut off from my mother. It was a constant hurt to me.
Cut-offs - Congrats
Glad you were able to make a shift. Now you have an opportunity to work on your triggers (how your mother pushes your buttons in therapy), heal them, and be clear about your boundaries with her on what you'll accept or not if she wants to see you. This can all be done in a very loving way, with practice. It will empower you to not feel like a guilty victim any longer!
Forgiveness
Please define forgiveness.
It is not a magic balm that makes the past evaporate.
You can't generalize about the benefits of forgiveness, because all transgressions are not equal. Everybody reacts differently to violations against them, and some incidents (especially repeated ones) create lifelong trauma.
So what you are perpetuating is the solidity of the relationship, again at the expense of the victim.
Cut-off do heal, whether or not the victim is committed to therapy, religion or self-help books.
Consider this. Your parents are like a toxic vapor in an enclosed space, that makes you want to throw up. Getting out of that space and into the fresh air allows you to heal, no pulmonary therapy necessary.
Self-care
If they are dangerous, definitely protect yourself with firm boundaries.
Separation
I agree with Heather. There are situations where you have tried everything with your parent(s) and the continued damage is too great. Moving on with your life knowing you have tried is so much healthier than continuing to drown in an unhealthy relationship.
Mendiset
Fui descobrindo o quanto permiti a maldade, revestida de um grande amor. Tipo: bate e assopra. Ou um tapinha não dói, ou uma expressão satânica...-"retardada!!!"
Êita mendiset difícil. Já chorei muito, mas aos poucos se vai ao longe e com bastante distância.
cut off
Getting away from the toxic parents is THE SOLUTION !!!
The reason? Too Simple ... THEY ARE NOT SATISFY no matter what you do!
Cutting off parents is wrong.
I'm sorry, but this is going to come back to haunt the kids who cut off their parents. Yes, you need to take care of yourself and deserve to be treated with respect and dignity. But the parent-child relationship is deep and important. All relationships are complicated. Children abandoning their parents is narcissistic and cruel. Figure out how to work it out, don't just walk away. I'm shocked to find this article in a publication like "Psychology Today".
correction
I meant to say that I was shocked to read the comments. Wise up, kids.
You’ll never get respect from a toxic parent.
Anonymous wrote:Wise up, kids.
Sounds like something my mother would say.
So no...
"Wise up, kids." -- But 'libby' We HAVE. Many of Us (Estranged Children) have been through all kinds of therapy etc. to figure out what is "wrong" with Us. It turns out, NOTHING was 'wrong' with Us. We were being raised by damaged people.
Estranged Parents cling to their victim-hood when their child(ren) estrange because they are, in a way, a victim. Clearly to treat their child the way my 'parents' treated Me, they were not given proper tools to do the job of being a Parent. HOWEVER... Just because one or both of my 'parents' were abused does not absolve THEM for the choices THEY made -- AS ADULTS. WE were the child in the relationship with no way to escape.
And as for Me being a kid? I'm, a now, healthy adult 40+ and hardly anyone's "kid" at this point.
Toxic mom
I cut off communication with my mom and moved further away. I am not narcissistic at all. I am an empath. I don't agree with Libbie. Some people just don't realize how toxic a parent can be. I chose to cut my mom out of my life since she is so toxic for my Spirit and health. When I was 38, my Mom thought it was acceptable to call my employer, say nasty things about me to get me fired from my job, all because I went out to lunch with my boyfriend and didn't inform her about it. When my man and I moved further away, she told me she would get me in a vindictive tone. She took me to court for custody of my son. She used my benign brain tumor diagnosis against me. No doctor would have said I am supposedly too incompetent to raise my son. My mom had an attorney. We couldn't afford one. The straw that broke the camel's back is when my mom told me where my son would live when she dies. She has no intention of giving my son back to me, even though my rights were never terminated. I am fully capable of taking care of myself and my son. My mom would also interfere in my relationship with my man. She would call up my mate's mom and say negative things about me, trying to paint me in a negative light to his mom. His mom defended me. God is a big part of my life now. HE has helped me through this. Speaking about God, when I was still speaking to my mom, she ridiculed me for reading the Bible, telling me only nuns and priests read the Bible. I do believe my mom could possibly be possessed by an evil spirit. To insult me because I read the Bible? I noticed I feel lighter and less stressed since I cut my mom out of my life. My emotional health has improved significantly.
CUTOFF
Libbie You've clearly haven't been a victim of Toxic parenting have you.
Response
You are so right, Libbie...entirely too simplistic article. EVERYONE has flaws. Work on them as adults. This article preaches a narcissistic approach...the child is punishing the parent. Doesn't sound like "abuse " to me. This child is going to suffer. This is the New Selfishness!
Abusing kids and expecting a relationship is wrong.
Anonymous wrote:Children abandoning their parents is narcissistic and cruel.
What’s cruel and narcissistic is parents abandoning their children. Those of us who choose to break ties do it out of self-preservation, not spite. If they cared so much, they’d put in effort, too. It takes two to tango, and they were the ones who chose to start the dance. Remember that.
Cut-offs
A little surprised at your take, since most of the commenters criticized the article because it says "cut-offs" don't heal, and instead recommends setting boundaries. Every situation and parent is different.
Cut off
You clearly do not have a toxic parent. Your comment is wrong and in fact hurtful.
relationships and cut offs
I wasn't very clear in my comment. I was not bothered by the article as much as by the comments to the article.
The parent-child relationship is important to the psyche. Perhaps the most important of our lives. Parents, in most cases, are doing the best they can. They are not perfect.
Cheering on the advice (that I read in the comments of the article) to adult children "cutting off" their parents strikes me as drastic and wrong. Relationships are complicated. Relationships are important. Yes, boundaries are necessary. But in most cases completely cutting off a parent is cruel, and more about establishing power over the parent than protecting oneself.
I get it that adult children are wounded. We all are wounded. Adult children who "cut off" their parents will never get to the forgiveness they need by ending the relationship. And they will pass on the spirit of revenge to future generations.
Cut-offs
Libbie, thank you for weighing in.
The parent-child relationship goes deep, as you point out. Being cut off from your parent requires consideration, as much thought that would go into cutting off your child if they were detrimental to you. No one takes this lightly. In my case, I chose not to cut off my mother because it was worse than dealing with her ways. I was aware I thought of this impasse with her every single day and it was affecting my life more than just putting up with her issues. We choose the best for our situation. However, since each case is very different I would never judge another for making the line in the sand for self-preservation. There is a lot to consider depending on severity, children involved, health issues etc. Suffice to say, no one cuts off their parent on a whim or without an emotional toll all around. Some of your points suggest children owe their parents something and it's cruel to cut them off but I challenge this assumption since the children here were not cared for. Maybe you think a women giving birth to someone naturally means they are owed by that child certain things for life. I disagree and in fact, that perspective is likely the cause many problems arise in the first place. Mothers taking advantage of that unspoken right.
In all, cutting out a parent is not ideal or recommended as long as issues can be worked on with both parties not abusive to one another. Self-preservation is valid, though.
cut-offs
Thank you for your response, Pam.
Yes, I think that each case is different, and yes, I think that people have to do what they need to do to protect themselves.
What I am saying is that the term "cut-off" should not be so easily thrown around - whether it be from the parent to the adult child, or the adult child to the parent. The relationship itself is far too important.
Some cases of abuse are extreme and may require a break, but my guess is that most are not. Relationships require work and insight on both sides. We grow through relationships. This is difficult, hard and messy work. This is the work of our lives, coming to the place of forgiveness and acceptance.
Cutting someone off is, in my opinion, not the best choice when considering a parent-child relationship. It should be reserved for only the most extreme cases of abuse.
I'm hearing way too many stories of parents abandoned by their adult children and being cut off from having relationships with their grandchildren. They are at a loss to understand why. Something is going on where adult children feel somehow that this is OK.
cut offs
Even the lead in to this article, "do you have toxic parents" and how to handle them, seems to me to suggest that if you have a relationship problem with your parent, you just might have "toxic parents". Sheesh - another way to put the blame on the other person.
Semantics
I think you’re missing the point. No one thinks it’s okay to cut off family. It’s terribly painful. There’s two sides to every story, and it seems like you’re so deeply entrenched in yours to understand anyone else’s.
We abused kids are here to find understanding, not place blame. We are trying to find out why we hurt and how to fix it, because we had no proper parenting. We’ve been trying to get love from our parents our entire lives, only to be met with constant disrespect...which is manifested in abusive ways. And we haven’t been able to figure out why. Why won’t they accept us? Why won’t they treat us with kindness? Why do they constantly criticize and berate us? Why do they never offer even a hug? Why am I the only one trying to have a loving relationship here? So, yes, when we keep running into a wall covered in poisonous barbs, we at some point have to stop, turn around, and walk away before we die.
You can sit here and play semantics all you want. Blame the kids for not wanting to have this pain in their (and possibly their children’s) lives. Blame us for not trying harder and harder and harder. Or you can look at the questions posed in this article and ask how your kids would answer them...because it sounds like you’re having a difficult time understanding why we can’t just continue to be “good,” obedient little children like we once were. It’s because we’re finally growing up, finally growing into our true selves, the powerful and amazing selves that our abusive parents tried so hard to prevent us from becoming. And we’re not going to allow you to control our lives any more. Do you get it yet?
A cut off parent?
Anonymous wrote:I wasn't very clear in my comment. I was not bothered by the article as much as by the comments to the article.
The parent-child relationship is important to the psyche. Perhaps the most important of our lives. Parents, in most cases, are doing the best they can. They are not perfect.
Cheering on the advice (that I read in the comments of the article) to adult children "cutting off" their parents strikes me as drastic and wrong. Relationships are complicated. Relationships are important. Yes, boundaries are necessary. But in most cases completely cutting off a parent is cruel, and more about establishing power over the parent than protecting oneself.
I get it that adult children are wounded. We all are wounded. Adult children who "cut off" their parents will never get to the forgiveness they need by ending the relationship. And they will pass on the spirit of revenge to future generations.
If the parent-child relationship is important to the psyche, then our parents should have been better parents to us and nicer people. There really is nothing worse, then when you are driving in thick urban traffic, hearing a barrage of criticism and insults, from mom. Or having your dad have a meltdown in front of underage babysitter, about how your four old son should be beaten.
Sorry Libbie, my sanity is much more important.
cutoffs
Most parents love their children desperately. They have sacrificed and gone to great lengths, for years, to care for their children. They were not perfect. They made mistakes. But they do not deserve to be "cut off". Or called "toxic".
"toxic" parents
Libbie, I don't think this article applies to "most" parents. I think toxicity is referring to something much more dire. Sure, I suppose someone can look at this and decide to irrationally label their parent toxic, if they are indeed looking to blame someone. I think they would be choosing to look at this from a pretty narrow lens in that case though. In the cases of abuse the cut-off is not typically about blame, it's about trying to heal and being unable when the abuse is still happening. If you grew up being starved, beaten, left to sleep on a hard floor not because of money issues but to make sure you knew you didn't matter, watching one parent try to run over the other with a car and so on. These are things myself and others I know personally with toxic parents have dealt with. I don't want to discount verbal abuse, because it can be extremely detrimental as well. If cutting-off is used as a tool to punish the parent, or get back at them that's another story. Not even one that I'm going to pass judgement on, it's not my place, but I think a far different story than what the commenters here are talking about. When you are trying to get past PTSD or trauma it can be very difficult to heal when the parent who caused it is still triggering it. Sometimes space or full cut-off is definitely and rightly needed. All parents make mistakes, some great parents make huge mistakes. I think the majority of people know that that is different from toxicity.
"Toxic" parents
Thank you for your response, Molly.
I am very sorry for the adult children who suffer continuing abuse from parents and am in full agreement with you that sometimes it is necessary to cut off relations. They are truly "toxic". And I agree with you that this situation is the exception, and does not apply to most parent-child relationships.
The article is pretty clear that efforts should be made to heal the relationship. It is written to the concerns of the adult child who feels s/he was abused.
Most online articles are written, and tagged, to generate "clicks', and the use of the word "toxic" could be one of those buzzwords.
All of that being said, there is a growing phenomena of adult children who are estranged from their parents in this country (USA). This is not a good omen for the psychological health of families.
I wish you all healing and wellness.
Love?
Anonymous wrote:Most parents love their children desperately. They have sacrificed and gone to great lengths, for years, to care for their children. They were not perfect. They made mistakes. But they do not deserve to be "cut off". Or called "toxic".
Right .... my parents "love" me. I have heard it all.
Here is a hint: if I were to hate somebody with every fiber of my being, I would still never consider treeating him or her the way my parents treated me.
Libbie, you know what kind of parent you were. Your kids know what kind of parent you were. God knows what kind of parent you were.
There is truth in the world. If we turn off the self-inflicted "messiness" in our relationships, it becomes very clear who the victim is, and who is the perp.
Estranged Parents
Relationships with toxic parents can be summed up easily...
Estranged Parents "tried their best". When I would say, as a child, "I'm trying my best!" I would be told, "Your 'best' isn't good enough."
If your children have estranged, "Your best" wasn't good enough and no, You don't get to say, "But I was a 'good' parent!" The only people who can evaluate your parenting is your child(ren). If they have walked away? Chances are better then good You scored an 'F' in your child(rens) eyes.
Trying to reconnect or 'fix' the relationship is futile until the abusive party can acknowledge their behavior. Sadly, abusers NEVER DO. Who wants to "own" being an abuser?
estrangement
Sooner or later, if we're lucky, we realize that we are ALL abusers. Some are more wounded (and abusive) than others, and boundaries definitely have to be set, but we are all connected and affected by each other. No one is perfect.
Healthy families have learned not to let anyone in the family become the scapegoat, the person(s) chosen to bear the brunt of psychological discomfort experienced by the family as a whole. They each look honestly into their own behavior and responsibilities to the others. Both children and parents.
Estrangement of any member of a family is never the answer.
Scapegoating is bullying with focused and long term intensity.
Estranged Parents
'libby' We are not ALL abusive. Abusers often say that because they believe that EVERYONE acts/thinks the way THEY DO.
You said, "Healthy families have learned not to let anyone in the family become the scapegoat..." You just made my point. My 'family' was NOT 'healthy' and I WAS the scapegoat.
My 'family' does not acknowledge their behavior toward Me as hurtful and I refuse to be their 'litter pan' anymore. They feel the way the treat Me is normal and fine. I disagree. The 'relationship' was working for them, so they had/have no motivation to change.
When all avenues of compromise and reason are exhausted, estrangement is the last option. When in 'No Contact' I cannot be abused further. How they feel about my absence in their lives is not my problem. You reap what you sow.
estrangement
Good for you, Elly! It sounds like you have established a much needed boundary.
I wish you well. You deserve a happy life, and all the support you can get.
Love.
Toxic parenting
I have a 21 y.o. daughter who says I'm a toxic parent. She is manipulative and often tries to play her dad and I against each other. She "cuts off" communication but then still expects us to reimburse her for her food and living expenses when she returns to communication with us. She tells her friends that we don't give her money for food and that she's starving so that they will give her money. However, all along, she has $1400 in her savings account. She is manipulative to the core but wants to call me toxic. She is in therapy at her college, but her counselor only hears her side of the story.
Certainly, there are toxic parents in the world. There are also children who are manipulative and want to blame their deficits on their parents and, to do so, call them the toxic ones.
Toxic parenting.
Michelle, without more details it's difficult to know. It sounds like your daughter exhibits manipulative traits and perhaps you do as well. Abusive parents often bring money strongly into conversations because they feel they are "paying out" and are therefore owed.
Adult children that go 'No Contact' are not present and therefore accept that they are not going to get money from their 'parents'. If your daughter comes and goes looking for cash, why is she like that? She learned that behavior SOMEWHERE.
Either way, as the parent, your daughter was shaped by you and how YOU raised her.
Reply to Elly A
You are so right Elly A! You don't know the "more" of the story. You don't know my daughter's diagnoses or history. Nor, do you know how many other children I have raised who do not exhibit manipulative traits. Yes, my oldest daughter got her manipulative traits from SOMEWHERE, just like you got your judgmental nature from SOMEWHERE. I realize I have only provided a snapshot. But, that snapshot was provided in an effort to seek support. Obviously, that is not what I received from YOU. Maybe it's important for YOU to think about the person's motive for posting before responding. Not all parents who have kids with psychological disabilities, manipulative traits, etc. are toxic. Your assumption and harsh response implying that is false and damaging. I have turned off notifications. I hope you are more careful next time you reply to a post.
@Michelle Toxic Parenting
Oh wow my dear I am so sorry your child has turned out this way. I know girls like this.
I wish I had more encouraging words than maybe she'll outgrow it. Family therapy?
Cease the funding of her luxuries i.e. phone, nails, hair, shopping etc.
Your daughter and my grandmother would have been great friends, rolling through town telling anyone who would listen just how mistreated they were by their own family! And it was all bullspit!
I do hope yalls relationship improves.
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I used to love this magazine ( back when it was actually a magazine. I am commenting begging you to stop with (the new buzz word) TOXIC!! As always it’s getting thrown around so 20/30 yr olds can BLAME THEIR PARENTS!! Sorry many people believe everything they read and manage to apply it to them. There r parents out there & therealways will be. There is also a WHO.E HUGE GROUP of parents that never beat or abused their children. Yet,, now all of the sudden we some how “emotional absed them” because we WHAT? Because we were not PERFECT every moment of everyday? Because “maybe” the other parent is pissed that u left them, so he is doing all he can to “get u back” children, so u have the children ALL DAY & majority of nights, so since he pays 500 a month for 3 children he has money to start court fights. Even when proven I was great mom, he gets nothing,doesn’t have to. Pay my court cost, NOTHING! But who ends up the HATERED PARENTS. I made SURE INEVER SPOKE ILL OF MY EX, no matter how much I was dying & inside. Just devastated that someone that I had 3 chlldren with could do such a horrible thing! Our divorce was as peaceful as possible, A) kuz I didn’t try & take anything , his pension & other things I could have B) I didn’t have any money for a lawyer, even if I had the $ I do not believe in treating people like that. I have 2 daughters that acted like fools and the timing was bad and I yelled at 1 of them, so she completely stopped talking. That used to call ME EVERYDAY, between 1-8x per day, and wanted me in delivery room & I cut granddaughters cord. Not even 2 yrs later didn’t even let me know she had another baby. 2daughters r estranged & cant even say way 2 sons couldn’t be more loyal & perfect. I really wish you all could just stop all this, yes there are “toxic” people but those are not the MAJORITY! I read your article & of course like health symptoms of course u always have a few. Same with this article, so you are contributing GREATLY to societies in ability to look inside & find OUR OWN FAULTS B4 we BLAME OTHERS!! It’s REALLY REALLY a sad day that parents/adults get not one ounce of respect ( just for getting this generation to the age they are) let alone BECAUSE they are YOUR PARENTS! It’s disgusting!! And you should be ashamed of yourselves.
I'll tell you what the problem is
It's the internet, defining emotions and states of minds into words into thoughts into beliefs.
I have issues with my parents (why im here) and I remember asking google years ago, googling my thoughts and getting pages like wikipedia up basically telling me i was 'emotionally and physically abused' as a child, building and assuring me of a false belief, it really is the devil i swear, it's a load of BS, but just because of the very fact I read that and many articles is that this thought, belief or however one would describe it is now got a hold on me when all I need to do is drop it, none if it is true, but because I believed it then I go ahead and secure it by behaving or reacting in a certain way to compliment that which then becomes a self fulfilling prophecy - back to sqaure one.
That's what these therapists want / psych websites want, to create a problem that doesn't exist or disect that which is in the moment that will pass, but instead they tell you how to fix it whilst ridding you of your money. I doubt this comment will even get published but if it does, seriously parents / kids, try this, just forget it, whatever has been done just let it go. When you do you'll find the other person will know too in your voice and just know because they know you and you will have disarmed the entire situation. Your body is likely weak as you've probably let yourself go, so eat well and exercise those demons out.
Your mind has been weakened and is being exploited by a false belief that your parents are 'toxic', so if I hate oranges and they make me feel sick but you like them and they make you feel good then is the orange toxic or is it my belief about the orange?
There's only one entity that I know of that wants to destroy mankind, I'm sure you know who I am talking about too so don't give them the ammo, because there is not one, they are legion, they are many so be careful what you read.
I think back to when I was younger, i was tested a lot like this, but i would catch it, feelings of anger would come up seemingly from nowhere and if i was quick enough i could catch it right there and go back just even a few milliseconds and catch the 'thought' or whatever that triggered the anger then i would go back and consciously think of the thought, repeat it, but actually listen to it and i'd quickly dissolve it because of how ridiculous it sounded, thank God I didn't have the internet back then, so be careful is all I'm saying.
Despite what people say Google is really not your friend, nor is the internet, but people are, parents, coworkers, neighbors believe in them not the stupid internet.
Detaching and toxic parents
I don't think there is any other way but to separate myself from my parents. I believe a hell is a better place than my home. My parents has their own problem but the constant yelling, bickering and crying from 4 am throughout the day has made my mental health degrade to the soil. I'm still a student and have no income so they're are my only source of survival but I need to cut them off. It's a point beyond tolerance. It's both mental and physical abuse for me and my anxiety gets worse day by day. I simply can't-
I need to detach, forever.
Must leave
It's very sad when children can't escape the abuse and toxicity of parents' dysfunction. Perhaps you can ask them to pay for counseling for you, which can support your leaving, and if not seek out the school counselor. A troubled child can often bring the parents and whole family into counseling, which would be beneficial to all.
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