Counselling in Edensor Park, NSW

Photo of Kerry Kostinsky Verlingieri - Renewed Hope Counselling Services, Counsellor, PACFA
Renewed Hope Counselling Services
Counsellor, PACFA
Verified Verified
Edensor Park, NSW 2176
It upsets me to see so many people struggling to live their day to day lives with the scars and painful wounds that somebody else inflicted on them through no fault of their own. The world is not meant to be this way. People should be free to live their lives without being imprisoned inside of themselves and feeling cheated out of life. The aim of Renewed Hope Counselling is to give you support during the time your life is most difficult. I see infinite value in every single human being and provide an understanding, non-judgmental, caring environment where you feel respected, safe, and able to face and overcome life’s challenges.
It upsets me to see so many people struggling to live their day to day lives with the scars and painful wounds that somebody else inflicted on them through no fault of their own. The world is not meant to be this way. People should be free to live their lives without being imprisoned inside of themselves and feeling cheated out of life. The aim of Renewed Hope Counselling is to give you support during the time your life is most difficult. I see infinite value in every single human being and provide an understanding, non-judgmental, caring environment where you feel respected, safe, and able to face and overcome life’s challenges.
(02) 9159 6284 View (02) 9159 6284

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Australian Psychology Solutions
Psychologist, PsyBA General
Verified Verified
Online Only
Australian Psychology Solutions was founded in 2003 with the aim of offering a quality psychologist service to adults. Australian Psychology Solutions psychologists are experienced, registered with the Psychology Board of Australia, and adhere to the APS Code of Ethics. Evidence based approaches offered are natural and many of these can be practiced between appointments. ​
Australian Psychology Solutions was founded in 2003 with the aim of offering a quality psychologist service to adults. Australian Psychology Solutions psychologists are experienced, registered with the Psychology Board of Australia, and adhere to the APS Code of Ethics. Evidence based approaches offered are natural and many of these can be practiced between appointments. ​
0407 676 192 View 0407 676 192
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Eliza Mealey
Counsellor, ACA-L2
Verified Verified
Serves Area
I am a qualified counsellor registered with ACA and hold a BD of Creative Arts Psychotherapy from Ikon Institute Australia. The combination of having experience in both counselling and art therapy allows me to reach a diverse clientele. I work in a holistic way, guiding clients towards their strengths. I have experience working with adults who face life challenges and young children and adolescents who have social, emotional and behavioural issues. I facilitate individual counselling and group therapy/art therapy for adolescents who struggle with self identity and the pressures that come with school/family and social settings.
I am a qualified counsellor registered with ACA and hold a BD of Creative Arts Psychotherapy from Ikon Institute Australia. The combination of having experience in both counselling and art therapy allows me to reach a diverse clientele. I work in a holistic way, guiding clients towards their strengths. I have experience working with adults who face life challenges and young children and adolescents who have social, emotional and behavioural issues. I facilitate individual counselling and group therapy/art therapy for adolescents who struggle with self identity and the pressures that come with school/family and social settings.
(07) 3132 2928 View (07) 3132 2928
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Venture Psychology Co
Psychologist, MPsych, PsyBA General
Verified Verified
Online Only
Hi, I'm Curtis, the Director at Venture Psychology Co. I am available to see clients above the age of 18y/o who are struggling with performance pressures, adjustment, and interpersonal difficulties, particularly in the context of mens mental health. In saying that, I am accepting of clients from all walks of life, and have experience working across the lifespan. Visit my website if you'd like to learn more: www.venturepsychologyco.com.au
Hi, I'm Curtis, the Director at Venture Psychology Co. I am available to see clients above the age of 18y/o who are struggling with performance pressures, adjustment, and interpersonal difficulties, particularly in the context of mens mental health. In saying that, I am accepting of clients from all walks of life, and have experience working across the lifespan. Visit my website if you'd like to learn more: www.venturepsychologyco.com.au
(07) 5241 4366 View (07) 5241 4366
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Zuzanna Burchard
Counsellor, ACA-L1
Verified Verified
Losing a pet can be heartbreaking, yet many grieving pet guardians feel their pain is dismissed or minimised. You may hear, “It was just a pet,” but I know your loss is real, deep, and significant. The bond you shared was unique, and the grief you feel deserves space and understanding. I’m here to support you through the loneliness and sorrow, helping you honour your pet’s memory while finding ways to heal. You don’t have to navigate this alone — I'm here to support you with guidance and understanding, helping you heal in a way that feels right for you.
Losing a pet can be heartbreaking, yet many grieving pet guardians feel their pain is dismissed or minimised. You may hear, “It was just a pet,” but I know your loss is real, deep, and significant. The bond you shared was unique, and the grief you feel deserves space and understanding. I’m here to support you through the loneliness and sorrow, helping you honour your pet’s memory while finding ways to heal. You don’t have to navigate this alone — I'm here to support you with guidance and understanding, helping you heal in a way that feels right for you.
(02) 8015 6315 View (02) 8015 6315
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Jessica Rubelli
Psychologist, PsyBA General
Verified Verified
Online Only
It can be overwhelming and daunting to find a therapist who understands you, your story and your life. You don’t want the “cookie cutter”answers or quick fixes because it feeds into the dissatisfaction and feelings of being unheard.
It can be overwhelming and daunting to find a therapist who understands you, your story and your life. You don’t want the “cookie cutter”answers or quick fixes because it feeds into the dissatisfaction and feelings of being unheard.
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Alexander Quirk
Counsellor, MA, PACFA
Verified Verified
Stanmore, NSW 2048
Even in our deepest suffering, there is meaning to be found. When we look within, towards those aspects of ourselves and our experiences that we find most difficult, we begin to know ourselves more deeply, we broaden our capacities to bear emotional pain, and from there we are able create meaningful changes in our lives. As your counsellor, my role is to walk alongside you as a supportive guide on this journey.
Even in our deepest suffering, there is meaning to be found. When we look within, towards those aspects of ourselves and our experiences that we find most difficult, we begin to know ourselves more deeply, we broaden our capacities to bear emotional pain, and from there we are able create meaningful changes in our lives. As your counsellor, my role is to walk alongside you as a supportive guide on this journey.
0455 857 958 View 0455 857 958
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Rochelle Whatman
Psychotherapist, MA, ACA-L4
Verified Verified
Surry Hills, NSW 2010
Psychological well-being is more than just an absence of mental illness. It underpins many elements of our emotional and physical health and can determine whether we move through life thriving, or just surviving. Whether you are in need of support during a period of instability or crisis, seeking to improve your interpersonal relationships, or need an impartial space to navigate a difficult decision, counselling and psychotherapy can equip you with insight and strategies to improve the quality of your life.
Psychological well-being is more than just an absence of mental illness. It underpins many elements of our emotional and physical health and can determine whether we move through life thriving, or just surviving. Whether you are in need of support during a period of instability or crisis, seeking to improve your interpersonal relationships, or need an impartial space to navigate a difficult decision, counselling and psychotherapy can equip you with insight and strategies to improve the quality of your life.
(02) 8806 0381 View (02) 8806 0381
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Erin Butler
Psychologist, MA, PsyBA - Clin. Psych
Verified Verified
2 Endorsed
I am a clinical psychologist with a passion for working with people using a holistic approach, recognising each person’s unique qualities. I have a warm and direct approach, and use humour where appropriate in my work with young adults and through the lifespan into older adulthood. I strive to create a warm, non-judgmental space where people feel comfortable discussing their concerns; and to collaborate with them to achieve their goals.
I am a clinical psychologist with a passion for working with people using a holistic approach, recognising each person’s unique qualities. I have a warm and direct approach, and use humour where appropriate in my work with young adults and through the lifespan into older adulthood. I strive to create a warm, non-judgmental space where people feel comfortable discussing their concerns; and to collaborate with them to achieve their goals.
(02) 7804 4903 View (02) 7804 4903
Photo of Jemimah Angela Ghaly, Counsellor, MPsych, ACA-L1
Jemimah Angela Ghaly
Counsellor, MPsych, ACA-L1
Verified Verified
Sydney, NSW 2000
Hey you, my name is Jemimah. If I end up as your therapist, call me Jem, and ALWAYS bring me coffee when you come in for session. Almond Cappuccino- yes, I'm that almond milk snob. Im getting therapy for it. Anyway, You've landed on my profile, hey?Things feeling a bit rough lately? Liiitle bit or a lotta bit depressed? Life feels upside down? Lost yourself? Battling some inner demons? You & your partner constantly at each other? Under performing at work? Ahh I've been there, too. Sucks, hey. Going through life’s tough patches is hard. And, it’s even harder if you’re alone and feel like no one understands your struggles.
Hey you, my name is Jemimah. If I end up as your therapist, call me Jem, and ALWAYS bring me coffee when you come in for session. Almond Cappuccino- yes, I'm that almond milk snob. Im getting therapy for it. Anyway, You've landed on my profile, hey?Things feeling a bit rough lately? Liiitle bit or a lotta bit depressed? Life feels upside down? Lost yourself? Battling some inner demons? You & your partner constantly at each other? Under performing at work? Ahh I've been there, too. Sucks, hey. Going through life’s tough patches is hard. And, it’s even harder if you’re alone and feel like no one understands your struggles.
(02) 9100 0434 View (02) 9100 0434
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Gay Cusack
Psychologist, MPsych, PsyBA General
Verified Verified
Surry Hills, NSW 2010
My ideal client is interested in developing self-awareness and learning skills to better manage difficult thoughts and feelings. They are looking for a therapist who they can build a working relationship with, based on genuine respect, support, and compassion, and who draws from the most recent research about what is effective in treatment. They want therapy to be tailored to their unique life experiences and personal strengths and weaknesses. My ideal client is someone who wants therapy to be a collaborative process, where the therapist and client work together to help the client reach their goals.
My ideal client is interested in developing self-awareness and learning skills to better manage difficult thoughts and feelings. They are looking for a therapist who they can build a working relationship with, based on genuine respect, support, and compassion, and who draws from the most recent research about what is effective in treatment. They want therapy to be tailored to their unique life experiences and personal strengths and weaknesses. My ideal client is someone who wants therapy to be a collaborative process, where the therapist and client work together to help the client reach their goals.
(02) 9100 0341 View (02) 9100 0341
Photo of Paul Thompson, Psychologist, PsyBA General
Paul Thompson
Psychologist, PsyBA General
Verified Verified
2 Endorsed
Oran Park, NSW 2570
Paul Thompson is a registered psychologist with many years of experience in not-for-profit and private practice settings. He is also a husband and father of two children. His approach emphasises warmth and trust, and ensuring that the treatment approach is collaboratively developed and informed by feedback throughout.
Paul Thompson is a registered psychologist with many years of experience in not-for-profit and private practice settings. He is also a husband and father of two children. His approach emphasises warmth and trust, and ensuring that the treatment approach is collaboratively developed and informed by feedback throughout.
(02) 4210 5121 View (02) 4210 5121
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Transforming Relationships & Celebrating Pleasure
Counsellor, MSc, PACFA
Verified Verified
1 Endorsed
Newtown, NSW 2042
Life's a rollercoaster, and sometimes you need a co-pilot. I'm here to help you navigate the twists and turns of love, sex, and everything in between. We'll laugh, we'll cry, and we'll definitely have some "aha!" moments. Let's ditch the shame and create a life that's truly fulfilling.
Life's a rollercoaster, and sometimes you need a co-pilot. I'm here to help you navigate the twists and turns of love, sex, and everything in between. We'll laugh, we'll cry, and we'll definitely have some "aha!" moments. Let's ditch the shame and create a life that's truly fulfilling.
(02) 8000 1493 View (02) 8000 1493
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Carolina Bustos
Psychologist, PsyBA General
Verified Verified
Serves Area
I am a warm and non-judgmental therapist, who enjoys working collaboratively with my clients. I use a humanistic approach and a variety of evidence-based techniques to facilitate goal achievements. I work reflectively and obtain feedback from my clients to ensure treatment plans make genuine sense through their time in therapy. I provide a welcoming space for my younger clients where they feel free to express their emotions and thoughts in a safe and fun manner (play therapy, artistic activities or verbal communication). Having lived in several countries, I have a broad understanding of cultural differences and human diversity.
I am a warm and non-judgmental therapist, who enjoys working collaboratively with my clients. I use a humanistic approach and a variety of evidence-based techniques to facilitate goal achievements. I work reflectively and obtain feedback from my clients to ensure treatment plans make genuine sense through their time in therapy. I provide a welcoming space for my younger clients where they feel free to express their emotions and thoughts in a safe and fun manner (play therapy, artistic activities or verbal communication). Having lived in several countries, I have a broad understanding of cultural differences and human diversity.
(03) 6164 5011 View (03) 6164 5011
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Bryan McDade
Counsellor, ACA-L4
Verified Verified
2 Endorsed
Camden, NSW 2570
As a registered counsellor, I specialise in providing support to individuals who are going through emotional distress or seeking to explore their psychological concerns. My clients often face challenges in their relationships and are seeking guidance on how to navigate uncomfortable situations. They also express an interest in understanding how the narratives they tell themselves shape their lives, and how their daily interactions can influence those narratives. I am committed to helping my clients unpack their issues and gain a better understanding of themselves.
As a registered counsellor, I specialise in providing support to individuals who are going through emotional distress or seeking to explore their psychological concerns. My clients often face challenges in their relationships and are seeking guidance on how to navigate uncomfortable situations. They also express an interest in understanding how the narratives they tell themselves shape their lives, and how their daily interactions can influence those narratives. I am committed to helping my clients unpack their issues and gain a better understanding of themselves.
(02) 4214 8126 View (02) 4214 8126
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Mickey Skidmore
Psychotherapist, AMHSW
Verified Verified
Online Only
My primary clinical focus is on grief & loss, and associated issues of depression and anxiety. I provide services exclusively online (tele-health) to emphasise flexibility and scheduling convenience (eliminating travel and parking hassles) while ensuring increased privacy in the comfort in your own environment. My primary approach to therapy emphasises Solution Focused and Motivational Interviewing methods that are underscored and influenced by Ericksonian Approaches to hypnosis and psychotherapy. I also have a strong passion for providing clinical supervision and services to other professionals.
My primary clinical focus is on grief & loss, and associated issues of depression and anxiety. I provide services exclusively online (tele-health) to emphasise flexibility and scheduling convenience (eliminating travel and parking hassles) while ensuring increased privacy in the comfort in your own environment. My primary approach to therapy emphasises Solution Focused and Motivational Interviewing methods that are underscored and influenced by Ericksonian Approaches to hypnosis and psychotherapy. I also have a strong passion for providing clinical supervision and services to other professionals.
(02) 8294 2030 View (02) 8294 2030
Photo of Daniela MacAulay, Counsellor, PACFA
Daniela MacAulay
Counsellor, PACFA
Verified Verified
1 Endorsed
Balgowlah, NSW 2093
I'm Daniela, a registered clinical counsellor and gestalt psychotherapist dedicated to supporting adults facing challenges in relationships. Whether you're struggling with romantic partnerships, friendships, family dynamics, work relationships, or simply connecting with others, I'm here to help. I work with clients individually face to face, as well as online. Together, we'll embark on a journey of self-awareness, healing and growth, leading to more meaningful, authentic relationships and a fulfilling life.
I'm Daniela, a registered clinical counsellor and gestalt psychotherapist dedicated to supporting adults facing challenges in relationships. Whether you're struggling with romantic partnerships, friendships, family dynamics, work relationships, or simply connecting with others, I'm here to help. I work with clients individually face to face, as well as online. Together, we'll embark on a journey of self-awareness, healing and growth, leading to more meaningful, authentic relationships and a fulfilling life.
(02) 9100 0871 View (02) 9100 0871
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Dr Koren Ganas
Psychologist, PsyBA - Clin. Psych
Verified Verified
Serves Area
Seeking support can feel daunting, especially when you're in a high-demand, high-pressure role where others rely on you. My practice offers a discreet, highly personalised space where you don’t have to hold it all together. We’ll work collaboratively to understand your needs, address the pressures you face, and with my 15 years of expertise, I will tailor an approach that supports both your authentic well-being. With a boutique, concierge-style experience, you’ll receive the highest level of individualised care designed to fit you. You are more than the demands you face—let’s create a path that helps you thrive.
Seeking support can feel daunting, especially when you're in a high-demand, high-pressure role where others rely on you. My practice offers a discreet, highly personalised space where you don’t have to hold it all together. We’ll work collaboratively to understand your needs, address the pressures you face, and with my 15 years of expertise, I will tailor an approach that supports both your authentic well-being. With a boutique, concierge-style experience, you’ll receive the highest level of individualised care designed to fit you. You are more than the demands you face—let’s create a path that helps you thrive.
(08) 6834 7305 View (08) 6834 7305
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Jordi Tome
Psychologist, MPsych, PsyBA - Clin. Psych
Verified Verified
3 Endorsed
Drummoyne, NSW 2047
Hello! I am Jordi, the director of Jigsaw Psychology & Assessment. I would describe myself as highly empathetic, easy to talk to, but as someone who can also be direct when needed. I have a keen interest in helping people understand and work through the true causes of anxiety; understanding and processing trauma; and also working with neurodivergent people. While I am well trained in CBT, and frequently utilise it, I am also interested in what is underlying presenting concerns, and how to best tackle them. This can look different depending on the client, but it is always something I am keen to explore.
Hello! I am Jordi, the director of Jigsaw Psychology & Assessment. I would describe myself as highly empathetic, easy to talk to, but as someone who can also be direct when needed. I have a keen interest in helping people understand and work through the true causes of anxiety; understanding and processing trauma; and also working with neurodivergent people. While I am well trained in CBT, and frequently utilise it, I am also interested in what is underlying presenting concerns, and how to best tackle them. This can look different depending on the client, but it is always something I am keen to explore.
0478 261 970 View 0478 261 970
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Staghorn Sexology
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, AASW
Verified Verified
Blaxland, NSW 2774
We provide counselling specialising in the following areas: psychosexual therapy for sexual problems such as erectile dysfunction, performance anxieties, ejaculatory disorders, painful sex and mismatched/low libido; relationship counselling; individual counselling especially around gender/sexual orientation issues, trauma and anxiety/depression. We have special interest in men's health, ageing sexuality, sexual function after cancer diagnosis/treatment, infidelity, sexual trauma and gay/lesbian/queer relationships including consensual non-monogamy.
We provide counselling specialising in the following areas: psychosexual therapy for sexual problems such as erectile dysfunction, performance anxieties, ejaculatory disorders, painful sex and mismatched/low libido; relationship counselling; individual counselling especially around gender/sexual orientation issues, trauma and anxiety/depression. We have special interest in men's health, ageing sexuality, sexual function after cancer diagnosis/treatment, infidelity, sexual trauma and gay/lesbian/queer relationships including consensual non-monogamy.
(02) 4063 1410 View (02) 4063 1410

How does your Counsellor compare?

Number of Counsellors in Edensor Park, NSW

< 10

Counsellors in Edensor Park, NSW who prioritize treating:

100% Relationship Issues
100% Depression
100% Anxiety
100% Child
100% Domestic Abuse
100% Bereavement
100% Parenting

Average years in practice

10 Years

Top 3 insurances accepted

100% Other
100% Bupa
100% Medibank Private

How Counsellors in Edensor Park, NSW see their clients

100% In Person and Online
FAQs - About Therapy and Counselling

How can I find a therapist in Edensor Park?

Search for nearby psychologists or counsellors by inputting your city, suburb, postcode, or a provider’s name into the search bar. From there, you can filter providers by the issues they treat, cost, insurance, gender, and other factors to find providers who are well-suited to your needs. To navigate between locations within the same country, enter a new city or postcode into the search bar.

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Is everyone in the Psychology Today Therapy Directory a licensed therapist?

Counsellors and Psychotherapists listed in the directory are members of the main professional associations, mainly the Australian Counselling Association and the Psychotherapy and Counselling Federation of Australia. Psychologists must be registered in the Australian Health Practitioner Regulation Agency (AHPRA). Most Social Workers listed in the directory are members of the Australian Association of Social Workers (AASW).

Providers whose professional membership or primary credential has been verified by Psychology Today are signified by a “Verified” symbol. Given that professional memberships are not a statutory requirement for social workers, psychotherapists and counsellors in Australia, certain qualified professionals or organisations may choose not to maintain such memberships despite possessing the necessary qualifications. They may be selectively included without the “Verified” seal.

What’s the difference between a psychologist, a therapist, and a counsellor?

Counsellors, psychotherapists and psychologists can all provide counselling or talking therapy and have credentials and experience that enable them to do so in Australia.

Psychologists have earned a 4 year undergraduate degree in psychology and have completed a postgraduate internship or postgraduate degree. Psychotherapists generally have an undergraduate degree in a health related field in addition to 3-4 years of specialist training in psychotherapy and a period of personal psychotherapy. In order to belong to a professional organisation such as the ACA or PACFA, counsellors and psychotherapists are required to have completed a certain level of AQF qualifications and/ or an approved training course as well as clinical and supervision hours. Social Workers registered with the AASW are required to have a Bachelor’s or Master’s degree in Social Work from an accredited institution.

What type of therapy is right for me?

The type of therapy best suited to a particular individual depends on several factors, including their primary reason for seeking therapy, their preferred timeline (some therapy types last for a set number of sessions, while others are open-ended), and their personality and preferences—some may prefer a more structured approach. For many individuals, multiple types of therapy could provide a good fit.

How much does therapy cost?

The cost of therapy depends on a number of variables, including location and the therapist’s experience and training. On average, the cost of a therapy session in Australia could be between $100 and $250. If you have private insurance, your plan may cover some if not all of your sessions. You should contact your insurance provider to determine if they provide coverage for therapy sessions and to determine what, if any, requirements they might have in order for your sessions to be covered, such as a referral from your GP or medical specialist.

What are more affordable or low cost therapy solutions?

Many therapists offer sliding scale payments, usually on a limited number of slots, which consists in an agreement between the therapist and a client to pay a reduced rate. Therapists who provide such arrangements often consider the client's income or ability to pay, but the extent of the discount is ultimately at the therapist's discretion. Furthermore, while group therapy may have different goals and benefits compared to individual therapy, it can be a more affordable solution to address certain types of issues.

If you are struggling to access therapy due to budget constraints, you could also consider public funded mental health services. The Better Access Scheme is a government program offering Medicare rebates for mental health care. To access the program you will need to be assessed and diagnosed by your GP and get a Mental Health Plan. This will allow you to receive up to 10 individual sessions and 10 group sessions a year with practitioners who accept bulk billing, with no out of pocket costs for you.

Is online therapy cheaper than in-person therapy?

Many therapists charge the same amount for online therapy as they do for in-person therapy—though clients may still find this cost-effective if it cuts down on their transportation costs. Health insurance plans often offer equivalent coverage for online and in-person therapy; indeed, in many places, they are legally required to do so. Text-based or on-demand therapy apps may be cheaper than traditional one-on-one psychotherapy; however, the practice may be less effective and is not likely to be covered by insurance.

Is online therapy a good option?

Therapy conducted online can be just as effective as in-person therapy, as long as there is a strong alliance between the client and the therapist. To find a therapist who provides telehealth services to clients in your area, click “Online Therapy” on the directory homepage and search by your city or town or your postcode.

Are therapy sessions confidential?

Therapists who are part of a professional organisation such as the ACA, PACFA, or the APS are bound by an ethical framework that requires them to uphold a confidentiality agreement. Confidentiality is a crucial part of the therapeutic relationship and only under specific circumstances, such as when there is the potential or known harm to the client or others or when a minor is in danger, will a therapist be obligated to break the agreement. These exceptions to the confidentiality agreement are usually discussed during the initial consultation.