In the Name of Love

A Philosopher Looks at Our Deepest Emotions
Aaron Ben-Zeév is President and Professor of Philosophy at the University of Haifa. His books include: In the Name of Love: Romantic Ideology and its Victims. See full bio

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Proclaimed monogamy with clandestine adultery

 The classic solution to the stability-change conflict in marriage is to support monogamous marriage while from time to time committing clandestine adultery. For many people this solution is beneficial. However, the high rate of divorce and extramarital affairs indicates the decreased utility of this centuries-old solution. Read More

No solutions.

The solutions are a mission impossible.Marriage is the product with flaws that our human society had created.I do not see any win-win solustions to satisfy the need of the families stability and the need of thrill romances in the outside.

i don't see any problem in

i don't see any problem in having a married couple that do love each other madly even though they are married!!

in some cases there is no problem

There are indeed quite a few such couples for whom there is no problem whatsoever. The problem is that there so many other people for whom marriage has significantly reduced their love for each other. Studies indicate that it is often the case that the more you know a partner, the less you love him.

Types of Love

Would it be fair to say that one's spouse doesn't love them less, but the type of love changes from a 'puppy' love to a committed love? This change could leave the couple missing what they had and searching for that blind 'love' they had originally with their spouse. Many studies I've read (no references) have stated that most divorces occur between 2-7 years in...which might be around the time the puppy love fades...

Types of love

Some of the changes may indeed be those in which a new type of love emerges. In other cases, love, or at least romantic love, may just disappears.

Another interesting take

On one of our era's toughest questions.  If you haven't already, you (and your readers) might want to take a look at Mating in Captivity, by Perel and/or The Ethical Slut, by Easton and Liszt, both of which offer considered, thoughtful answers to these questions.

Another interesting take

Thank you. I am familiar with these thoughtful sources.

Polyamory as a "solution" (re: Ethical Slut et al)

I've had the opportunity to become involved with and to try out the polyamorous "lifestyle" as an alternative. It made sense and was certainly worth looking into. After 7 years of it, I learned that the biggest difference between that lifestyle and monogamy is that with polyamory - there is simply opportunity for more people to get hurt - and in just as many if not more ways.

The thing with polyamorists is that many of them have problems with emotional intimacy. They cannot have or do not want emotionally close relationships. They seemed to mostly prefer superficial involvements.

Further, they also seemed to have issues sustaining relationships long-term.

Worse than these two things, too many of them were also emotionally abusive - and they used polyamory as a sort of justification for emotional abusiveness.

Many of them were also "new relationship junkies". Meaning, they LIVED for the thrill of romance. The moment that feeling wore off in an existing relationship, they were on to the next one - with little regard for the other ones whose "shiny newness" (ie NRE as it's referred to) had worn off.

The "old" lovers could just get out of the way or get off the bus. Usually it didn't matter to the "NRE junkie". So, it's an understatement to say these types of relationships can often be emotionally brutal - and to more than two people.

Not that they all are, or that all polyamorists have these issues. I did see several families who had been successfully together for years and had their systems for opening up to new members worked out with respect for all. It CAN be done.

Mostly, though, this was not the case in the circles I associated with (several of them) and polyamory seemed to be a place for people who have trouble with intimacy, with sustaining relationships, with addiction, who lacked emotional maturity, and who were emotionally abusive - to hang out and have the behaviors stemming from their various pathologies validated by and hidden behind that lifestyle.

My message?

Proceed with caution. Your mileage may vary. Offer void where prohibited. No warranty is offered or implied. Skate at your own risk.

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