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Paul Joannides is a research psychoanalyst, author of Guide To Getting It On, and an editor of the American Journal of Sexuality Education. His podcast is at ThePleasureReport.com. See full bio

Rape Fantasy or Pseudo Rape Fantasy?

Is it really rape we are talking about when we say...
Matt Hutson
This post is a response to Why Do Women Have Erotic Rape Fantasies? by Matthew Hutson

I recently read Matt Hutson's excellent post, Why Do Women Have Erotic Rape Fantasies? It got me thinking more about rape fantasies, and why I don't think there's any such thing. That's because when we talk about rape fantasies, we don't define our terms.

If you ask most women who have rape fantasies to describe the man who is "raping" them, you'll find he's not exactly what we picture when we think about the average rapist, unless the guy has been spending six hours a day in the prison weight room or reads Shakespeare to Bubba his cellmate.

Look at the buffed out dude on the book cover that was included to illustrate the Why Do Women Have Erotic Rape Fantasies post. We're talking a serious bodice-ripping hunk. I don't think that's the image that emerges when police or emergency room personnel ask victims of rape to describe the man who just raped them.

The fact is, the guy who is doing the "raping" in a lot of women's fantasies of forced sex is someone who she might want to have sex with anyway. Missing is the terror, violence, confusion, rage and disgust that makes rape RAPE. The woman with the fantasy is in control by virtue of who she has "raping" her or because she's the one scripting the scenerio, while control is the last thing that a woman who is being raped has any of.

Even if the woman's rape fantasy involves her being degraded or humiliated by an anonymous agressor or gang of grease monkeys with missing front teeth, her fantasy doesn't make her fear men in real life like an acutal rape often does. It doesn't make her afraid to go out of doors. Even if her fantasy is a way of processing something overwhelming from her past, we would never suggest she walk alone at night in dangerous places to get an even better handle on the psychology of it.

Of course, I'm side-stepping what might be the various cultural, religious and perhaps biological reasons for why so many women have sexual fantasies where they are "taken" by a man instead of being the taker. But unless you are a radical feminist, I think you can see that there's a significant difference between that, and the realities of an actual rape.

So, is it really rape we are talking about when we say a woman has rape fantasies? I don't think so. I would suggest that for most women, "Erotic Rape Fantasy" is a contradiction in terms.



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