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Chinese parent, Western parent, superior parent: have we figured it out yet?

By now you are probably familiar with the WSJ article Why Chinese Mothers Are Superior, where Amy Chua describes a parenting style she calls "Chinese parenting" and differentiates it from her view of what she calls "Western" parenting.  This article has created a firestorm of comments and blogs and created tremendous controversy.

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The "Chinese" approach works for certain objectives, not others

The very structured approach to child-raising works well for left-brained kids and to achieve left-brain type outcomes- like proficiency at math, engineering and playing (not writing) music.
That approach doesn't teach/cultivate leadership, creativity, and strategic thinking.

Einstein was right brained, did terribly in school, shunned structure- didn't turn out too badly.

The "permissive" approach may not breed the highest IQs or the finest technical experts, but it might breed self-reliance, resilience and entrepreneurship.

What's the breakdown by culture or style of upbringing for the world's top CEO's or inventors?

In the end you're better off raising your kids in the manner that best suits their characteristics- structure for left brainers, open spaces and encouragement for right brainers.

Einstein may have failed gym

Einstein may have failed gym but for the most part the "Einstein got bad grades" is a myth, especially when it came to maths. It's akin to taking the "Bill Gates was a college dropout" woefully out of context.

http://everyjoe.com/technology/alas-einstein-was-no-failure-in-math-191/...

You missed the point of this blog discussion

Einstein began working on the general theory of relativity in his teens, when most students are still in middle or high school.

Was that a product of being strictly drilled in school on that subject?- obviously not- given that his work contained original material. Was his early math training necessary?- probably, but not sufficient.

Strictly drilling someone (adult or child) may accelerate the process for learning skills that require significant practice/repetition to master (e.g.,playing piano) and is useful at giving someone the tools to do mechanical things.

But all achievements are not mechanical and all students do not have the interest not temperament to master mechanical things.

Kasparov said that the the best chess players are not the ones who do nothing but play chess, because they lack the opportunity and imagination to synthesize ideas from other realms into their chess.

permissiveness and independence

I agree that different kids require different parenting and that some kids will thrive on discipline that would make another child curl into their shell.

However, research is very consistent in showing that kids with permissive parents are more dependent and less self-reliant than kids whose parents are both warm and strict (demanding the child to do their best and stretch themselves). Kids from permissive families are more dependent on both their parents and also more conforming to peers.

It seems as if developing a sense of autonomy requires that kid have something to push against.

Certain objectives

You make an interesting point. Another way of looking at it would be not necessarily in terms of different children, but instead in terms of different aspects of a child.

In other words, when we want to help a child learn math, or to play an instrument, or teach them determination and discipline, we might emphasize the more "Chinese" approach. Whereas when we want to foster relationship, creativity, and thinking "outside the box," we would allow for space to play and "Be."

But I agree, too, that we need to be sensitive to an approach that works for a particular child. That is part of what transformed Chua - her approach worked better for her older daughter than her younger.

oldest trick in the book...

extreme capitalist writes provocative book on a controversial subject, then gets her PR team to raise up a perfect ****storm in major media outlets everywhere... *everyone* starts talking about it... and... guess who's laughing all the way to the bank?

There's more to our tradition than that

Western traditions of self-conscious childrearing and thinking about the child go back a lot further than 60 years.

European and US traditions hark from the classical age with Plato and Aristotle. Locke and others wrote about child development during the enlightment and there were incipient studies of child development and baby diaries kept in the Victorian age. Historians have argued that the big shift in attitudes towards children occurred around the turn of the last century when children went from being seen primarily as loved but useful parts of the family to desired almost entirely for the emotional relationship qualities they brought to the family. You can see that grimly by looking at adoption records. In the 1800's, the easiest child to find a home for was a young male teen - not yet rebellious, still dependent, but old enough to work. Babies were literally given away. (Little Buttercup, from Pinafore, was a 'baby farmer', who engaged in this practice of taking in babies that parents paid to get rid of and giving them away to homes willing to take them.)

After 1900, when norms changed to emphasize the parent-child relationship, the ideal adoptee became a female toddler: cute, loving, and impressionable. The burgeoning home economics movement at that time spent a lot of time, effort, and research studying parenting and putting out manuals on the topic of childrearing.

Symonds first work on parenting style was published in 1929.

What has changed is that we went from more of a shaping and training model - similar to the Chinese - to more of a fostering and nurturing model after 1900.

I think we've thought about this a lot longer than 60 years. That's only 1951.

Agreed

Certainly we have had more thought about parenting than the last 60 years; and your historical overview is appreciated. I was trying to speak to a particular way of viewing a child - the concept of infant and child development, child psychology, and seeing the child in a particular way.

But why quibble over 60-100 years. In the course of human history, or even "Western" civilization, that is pretty brief!

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Samantha Smithstein, Psy.D., is a clinical and forensic psychologist and co-founder of the Pathways Institute for Impulse Control in San Francisco.

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