A Psychological Solution to Bullying

When we advocate for laws against bullying, we declare the failure of psychology to solve the problem.
Izzy Kalman is the author/creator of the website Bullies2Buddies.com, and the world's most serious critic of the anti-bully movement. See full bio

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The Anti-Bully Operation was a Success but the Patient Died

The entire modern world is complaining that bullying is becoming an escalating problem in schools. Meanwhile, the effort to combat bullying in schools has also been escalating. No one seems to be putting two and two together. Isn’t it possible that bullying is escalating because the effort to fight it is escalating? Read More

School Counselor

Yep! Interventions are seeds that can last a life time. I don't want to teach students to be responsible for classmate's behavior or from becoming a crutch. I want to teach compassion and a sense of social responsibility - a healthy interdependence. Maybe we could teach the TA drama triangle along with bullying response strategies. This might help students to recognize the invisible connections between playing a rescuer or enabler, prosecutor and victim.

a few exceptions

I do agree with your viewpoint with only a few exceptions. I remember when I was in school there was a severely handicapped girl who had both cognitive and physical limitations. For whatever reason another girl found it fun to taunt her and push her books from her hands knowing a back brace prevented the girl from being able to bend over and pick them up. No one ever stood up for the girl and this behavior continued for months until finally a boy stepped in and vowed to protect her. He escorted her to class for the rest of the year and the girl was finally able to come to school and learn without daily emotional truama. In this case, the girl was perhaps not capable of learning interdependent skills to handle her own bullying. In genereal, however, it is good to have kids overcome thir own tormentors. We just can't lose sight of insatnces like this one where a true victim is actually very easy to judge.

Response to Becky

Thanks for your comment. My rule of thumb is that you stand up for people who truly are unable to stand up for themselves. That will usually eventually happen within a group, even without any authority figures telling them to do it. The boy in the story you relate apparently did it on his own. It's a shame, though, that it took months before it happened. And i have no objection to teaching kids that it is good to help those who can't help themselves. However, when people can help themselves but don't know how, the best thing is not to help them but to teach them how to help themselves. That is why I wrote my free manual on my website-to teach kids how to solve their bullying problem by themselves.

As Abraham Lincoln so aptly said, "You cannot permanently help people by doing for them what they could and should do for themselves."

I disagree

Theoretically, you are probably correct in that doing nothing is better than doing something, statistcally that is. However, until you have been on the receiving end of bullying, you cannot speak about such matters. If someone intervenes when you are being taunted and sticks up for you, that alone is a self-esteem booster. However, if you, as a bystander, chose to "ignore" the bullying because you believe that stepping in won't help him/her, your silence is perceived by the victim as evidence that what is happening to him/her is okay and that you tolerate it. Letting the victim bear the brunt of a bully is analogous to ignoring a racist joke or comment;your silence is perceived by the person as support. Ask youself these two questions: How many people have been killed sticking up for someone being bullied? And how many people have committed suicide or shot up school because they were frequently teased and nothing did anything about it (including teachers and students)? You claim statistics are on your side but I'm afraid I would have to beg to differ.

ex-bullying victim still agrees with this

When someone is bullied and not defended, it's not viewed as the bullying being 'okay,' and won't cause the victim to feel they deserve it. It's high school. No one expects defense from their peers, because in high school a peer is a person who judges you. They're not going to help you, they're going to see how you handle a situation, then talk, or make fun of you, afterward (and people who are defended by others aren't getting a pat on the back, let me tell you). I've yet to see another teenager feel hurt by a friend for not being defended, because you see people who defend others not gaining anything by their actions. The last friends who defended another friend -and this was years ago- one got a bruise, and a suspension from the teacher. The other got a slap in the face and the bully didn't stop her actions.

In a school it's the teacher's jobs to teach- and that includes how to handle your own problems- and the students job to learn. It should never be a student's job to protect or defend other students because teachers can't think of a more effective method. The school shoot-ups are an especially relevant example- the students were moody, depressed, and usually acting-out in some ways that teachers ignored. Eventually being ignored reached critical point and the students got attention in any way they could. If they'd been defended from bullies by other students, they still wouldn't have gotten the attention they needed.

I agree with some of your

I agree with some of your points but for the most part you are including anecdotes which are not applicable to everone's experiences. If a friend stuck up for me while I was being bullied I would most definately thank him/her after (amd I have had friends stick up for me just like I have stuck up for friends.)

My question to you is what about acts of racism or sexism? If someone makes a racist or a sexist slur to another person and I happen to hear that slur and choose to ignore it, the victim and, more importantly, the bully will perceive that as evidence that I tolerate such acts.I don't care if it takes place in school, in the workplace, or on the streets, behaviour such as that must not and can not be tolerated by bystanders. Intervening will let both the victim and the person hurling the invective know that such behaviour is not accepted or condoned. Leaving it up to the victim to settle their own dispute is not the solution when it comes to acts of discrimination.

Response to Justin

You think you disagree with me, but I don't think you really do.

In case you didn't notice, I wrote that standing up for victims is a mixed bag. Before I explained the minuses, I first listed the pluses, and one of them was that it could make the victim feel good. (But that is not nearly as much of a self-esteem booster as handling the situation by yourself.)

When I wrote about doing nothing being better than doing things that make things worse, first of all, this is not meant as a statistical statement. It is basic logic. Many interventions are practically guaranteed to make matters worse.

If an instance of standing up for a victim makes the situation better, than it obviously was a good thing to do. This can be determined on a case by case basis, and it should be left to the individual to decide when that is the prudent thing to do.

The problems begin when we make global policies that require everyone to do something that is more likely to cause harm than good. The US did that with alcohol prohibition. The country was smart enough to realize, after 13 years, that Prohibition was causing more harm than good. It made the same mistake with anti-drug laws, which have caused far more harm than good. Unfortunately, our country hasn't been wise enough to repeal these destructive anti-drug laws. The country is making the same mistake with anti-bullying laws. The question I am eager to see answered is whether our country will have the wisdom to do with these laws what we did with Prohibition, or whether we will follow the foolish path and do what we have been doing with anti-drug laws.

My apologies

Okay, sorry for the misunderstanding. I understand now the message which you are trying to convey. North America has a long history of criminalizing unwanted activities and behaviour in hopes to dissuade people from engaging in them. Moreover, despite the amount of contrary evidence to this approach, governments continue,as you have pointed out, to try to solve society's problems by actively condemning the behaviours through state policies without trying to understand why such problems persist or how they manifest.

Regarding bullying, I agree with you in that in certain circumstances "sticking up for the victim" can help, but obviously the victim will be better off if they solve their own problem. That being said, however, unfortunate instances such as Columbine have taught us that teachers and other professionals occasionally turn a blind a eye to bullying if the perpetrators are popular and well respected students. I witnessed this in my highschool.

I have no statisitics to substantiate this, but I'm assuming that the majority of children (or adults for that matter) do not seek help for their problems regarding bullying or harrassment. My question to you is what do we do for those people who are keeing their adverse experiences to themselves?

Response to Justin

The question, "what do we do for those people who are keeing their adverse experiences to themselves?" can be asked of any anti-bullying approach. Those who take a legalistic approach–treating bullying like a crime and punishing kids who do it–certainly are not going to provide any meaningful help to these kids who keep their suffering to themselves.

My solution is simple: to give lessons on handling bullying to all the classes. The students who are keeping their suffering to themselves are sitting in class listening intently, and they will learn to understand the problem and how to solve it. This is not to say that all of them will succeed in solving the problems just by observing a class lesson, but many of them will. And it is certainly better than receiving a typical anti-bully lesson in which they're told how horrible bullying is, how it destroys kids' lives, that no one should tolerate it, and that they should tell the school authorities on bullies. Such lessons simply reinforce these kids' misery, their conviction that their suffering is justified, and the belief that they cannot possibly solve their problems on their own.

Furthermore, I let the kids know that if they need individual help, I'm available for them. Since they saw effective demonstrations in class, they are more likely to seek help, knowing there is a good chance they will actually get their problem solved.

I agree

My daughter is 8 years old and in the 2nd grade at a Catholic School and is being bullied by this boy at school that won't stop looking at her and picking on every move she makes. It is disrupting her learning and the teachers and principles are putting the blame on my daughter because she is reacting to it. To me, the teacher and the Principle seem to be bulling her too! They called me at work and made me come get her because this boy told her that he wishes that she was never born. They told me that my daughters problem is that she thinks that she is so pretty and that she can get out of trouble because she is pretty. WHAT! So somehow this is all my daughters fault for being "pretty"? I am at my whits end with this and I did research to try and help her make this boy stop and I came across your "Bullies 2 Buddies" article. I totally argee with it and I KNOW it will work! It is getting my daughter to stop reacting to this kid that is going to be the hard part. But I am going to give it a try. Her self esteem is so low right now that I don't know how to help her. She feels that everyone hates her. The teacher even sent her to Kindergarden because she was crying about how this boy has made her feel! She told her that she is acting like a kindergardener and she can spend the rest of the day there! We are going to sit down and discuss all the steps that she needs to take to pull this off. And when it works I am going to go to the principle and the teacher and give them a peace of my mind along with a copy of your article. They have done nothing to help her try to help herself and they keep punishing her and not him. They are enabling this boy to keep bulling her by letting him "win". As a parent it hurts to see her so down on herself and not be able to fix it and I am so glad that I came across your article. Thank you so much! My daughter is so excited about it and I know that she can do it!

Response to GraphicGirl

I am glad you found my website manual and that your daughter is eager to try its advice. To make it even easier for her, I recommend that you have her watch the excerpts from my DVD program on the website. Here are the links:
http://www.bullies2buddies.com/?q=node/139
http://www.bullies2buddies.com/?q=node/138

One more recommendation: don't complain to the school about their ineffectiveness. They were trying their best, but it is not in the school's ability to make kids get along. Usually when schools try to make the bullying stop–especially in the ways they are being required to do it today–it only makes it worse. So how can you hold them responsible? Just like you didn't really understand what was going on till you found my website, the school doesn't understand it, either.

If your daughter succeeds with my advice, then you might want to tell the school staff, in a completely friendly way, that there is a website that really helps, and they might want to learn from it. You might even want to apologize for having give them a hard time, and tell them you realize now they were doing the best they could. If you do this sincerely, they may apologize to you, too, and will be more willing to explore what really works. But first make sure that it really does work.

Good luck to your daughter!

Today is the first day we are

Today is the first day we are going to put your words into action. Seeing that she is 8 and is very stuborn and strong willed I just hope that she can do it.

You are totally right. I know that it is not their fault and that they are doing what they can but as a protective parent that was teased as well you just don't want your child to have to go through the hurt and pain the same as you did. I went to this same small school as a child and I know first hand what is taught. I just don't see how a Catholic school can let some of these mean things go unpunished. They won't have ever put up with it when I was there!
I don't think that any child should have to endure someone telling them that they wish they were never born! That is totally unexceptible. We live by the "golden rule" - do onto others as you want them to do onto you.

I do intend to share this website with the teacher and the principle and any parents. This issue is so important and it needs to be addressed at every level.

Thank you for the link! We will definatley review it tonight!

Many thanks!

School Response

Sending your child to a Kindergarten class because she was crying would be more damaging emotionally than dealing with the bully. I would be at the school switching teachers or even changing schools. The teachers actions are not an appropriate response at all. Please make sure the school principal is aware of your dissatisfaction with the action of this teacher. I would even ask for the opinion of the school psychologist at your local public elementary school and bring her response to the attention of the Principal. Again, the actions of the teacher will encourage more bullying of your child in my opinion. The bullies will feel the teacher is on their side, because they have witnessed the teacher deliberately embarrasing your child. Good luck and protect your child even if it means moving her to public school.

I totally agree with your

I totally agree with your approach - however some beliefs are so engrained in us, that it's hard to try new approaches...even if they make so much sense! I have always stressed to children (especially my own) that they don't have to "let" what others say about them get to them...they choose how they feel and respond. I love your magic response "Do you believe it?" and use it frequently. It has even rubbed off on my teenage daughter who uses it with friends without even knowing it! However, when it comes to standing up for other, I've always been a proponent of standing up for the underdog and not allowing someone to be mean to another. I see now that the best possible solution may not be to stand up for the person, but to help empower the person (away from the bully) to handle the bully themselves.

Empowering vs Enabling

This is really the crux of the whole bullymania. I have changed my approach with students since hearing and reading what Izzy has to say. I did have a student who told me that Izzy says to "do nothing". I had him show me where that was written and he did. Of course, he took it totally out of context, which led to a great lesson. When parents want the school to bully the bully, I just do not see how that helps the "victim" except to have shown how having others take care of you is a life skill. Wow, I hope we don't have a generation who thinks others should take care of them. OOPS, I forgot, we already do!!

Reporting is Still Necessary

I'm glad to hear that you are not advocating the "do nothing" approach because at first that is what your articles and website seem to encourage.

Teaching bullied children how to emotionally deal with bullies and not react in a way that encourages further abuse is an idea I can get behind.

However, I still feel it is important that targets of bullying are also encouraged to step forward and report it. Otherwise we will lose sight of how serious of a problem it is and will not know to intervene or recognize that a child does not have the skills to deal with it on their own. In some cases we don't find out about these situations until there is a suicide.

On my website, OvercomeBullying.org, we showcase a program called Speak Out Now that allows targets, bystanders and even bullies to report incidents. If, for example the target reported an incident they can enter into the system how they would like the situation to be addressed.

In this way all concerned recognize the need for bullying to not just be swept under the rug and ignored but at the same time recognizes the need to identify targets, bystanders and bullies so that they can receive the support or education they need.

That support can be in whatever form is deemed best. In this case it would be to identify targets who need to learn the skills required to handle bullying situations better on their own.

You can find more information about Speak Out Now here:
http://www.overcomebullying.org/speak-out.html

the heart of the problem

Their is a brother and sister team in our neighborhood that have picked on my children for a very long time. Both at school and at home. We have tried ignoring: didn't help. My children have tried bullying the bullies back: didn't help. I have tried talking to the parent: this proved difficult because the parent was a bully too! So are my kids supposed to be emotionally abused, suffer from stomachaches every morning because we shoudn't address the issue? It seems to me that the real issue is that the bullies are crying out for help too. There must be problems within themselves and at home or they wouldn't have such poor social skills. I don't see how getting rid of bullying policies will help. The children that suffer this torture are being thrown to the wolves. Maybe the bullying policy needs to be reinvented to get the bullies the psychological help they obviously need.

I've been saying this for

I've been saying this for years. We, adults, including the education world and all the so-called experts, don't know what to do about bullying. Izzy Kalman is the first professional I have seen admit it. It has angered me for so long that we tell children to tell an adult when they are being bullied. The truth is we don't know what to tell these kids. Of course if there are witnesses and physical contact we, the educational professionals, can take action (punitive). But, so much bullying happens outside of teachers' direct contact; hallways, cafeteria, recess, bathrooms, and so on. And "if we didn't see it and there are no witnesses, there is nothing we can do."
Also, by the way, bullies have parents, who often do not feel that their children ARE bullies. They expect the school to provide proof. One child's words vs. another's is not proof. This so-called indifference of teachers may be based in this. And we do need to consider whether we really want schools to react simply based on reported words. Frustrating, yes, but schools are such easy targets and oh so kickable.
This website is the first bullying program that appears to based in reality. I don't think I can cause it to be implemented school-wide, but I can surely see what it can do for my classroom.
Thank you!

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