Spycatcher

An ex-FBI agent on deception, espionage, interrogation, and reading people.

The Truth About Lie Detection

Deception is something we live with every day and we seek to detect it in order to protect ourselves as well as to get to the truth of a matter. Here is a look at how well we can detect deception and what are some of the more serious implications of getting it wrong from the view of the practitioner as well as the researcher. Read More

The only way to really know the truth

Ask the "delusional" Identified Patient. Of course, their "reality" and your "reality" might not match because Current Leads or Lags Voltage in Reactive Circuits. Ours might because you were probably the IP" in your family. May I have this dance?

I like you Joe Navarro. You are paranoid. I am paranoid. Yay! We have a common synchronous bond! Are you paranoid because I am? Am I paranoid because you are? That's my example of a "Reactive Circuit". http://www.ict4us.com/r.kuijt/en_current.htm

'Satir...saw the identified patient as manifesting an outward sign of the intrapsychic and interpersonal problems within the family system...preserving - while paradoxically revealing - the family's secrets, agendas, and processes'

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identified_patient

Clever Hans (in German, der Kluge Hans) was an Orlov Trotter horse that was claimed to have been able to perform arithmetic and other intellectual tasks.

After a formal investigation in 1907, psychologist Oskar Pfungst demonstrated that the horse was not actually performing these mental tasks, but was watching the reaction of his human observers. Pfungst discovered this artifact in the research methodology,

wherein the horse was responding directly to involuntary cues in the body language of the human trainer, who had the faculties to solve each problem. The trainer was entirely unaware that he was providing such cues.

In honour of Pfungst's study, the anomalous artifact has since been referred to as the Clever Hans effect and has continued to be important knowledge in the observer-expectancy effect and later studies in animal cognition.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clever_Hans

The observer-expectancy effect (also called the experimenter-expectancy effect, observer effect, or experimenter effect) is a form of reactivity, in which a researcher's cognitive bias causes them to unconsciously influence the participants of an experiment. It is a significant threat to a study's internal validity, and is therefore typically controlled using a double-blind experimental design.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observer-expectancy_effect

P.S. If (and when) justice goes and peace flees then I got my Winged Icarus Nike Running Shoes. Do you have yours?

Good lie detection...

... happens when you know the person well (like family members) that you see often. Many times the lie teller gives him or herself away by tells or you have enough information about the person and their life to figure out/suspect when that person is lying. Now this does not apply to all kinds of lies, we only usually need to detect lies around information we find relevant.

Asking someone on the spot or in information poor situations of course human beings are going to be bad at it.

Detecting lies comes from needing to spend enormous amounts of time knowing a person or having a large enough experience of certain situations where you can detect CERTAIN kinds of lies.

I think the whole question is ass backwards, for instance instead of detecting just whether what someone says is false they should focus on certain lies based against a persons experience or knowledge in some area.

Good Lie Detection

I would agree that spending a lot of time with someone helps so you get a baseline of behaviors. In the end, you can assess someone for discomfort and then the question is, why, why did they react this way? thank you.

Five Best Deceit Clues

Hi, I hope these comments are useful

First of all, there is no singular clue that reliably indicates deceit; a Lie Catcher needs to observe a cluster of clues, that occurs simultaneously - which is in contrast to baseline behaviour (when the person is being truthful). Also, no technique in lie detection is 100% accurate.

Five Best Clue Leakages to Look for:
1. The Eyes: The eyes are an incredibly valuable source of information that humans naturally rely upon. This is particularly evident when we look at photographs, as we cannot rely upon body movement and speech. When shown a photograph of a person, the first place we usually look is the eyes in an effort to assess the emotion of that person.
My favourite area to focus upon to identify if a person is lying is the eyes. It appears very difficult for people to fabricate information or invent a story and maintain normal eye behaviour. It's as if our brain and our eyes are hardwired together and when the brain is put under pressure, the eyes reveal it. The three key areas of the eyes to focus on are: Eye Contact, Blink Rate and Eye Movement/Direction.
2. Voice Flow: It's very hard to tell a spontaneous lie and maintain a fluid speech cadence (or rhythm). As the liar tries hard to fabricate an answer the increased cognitive load (brain drain), impairs the natural speech flow. The voice may also increase in pitch - due to stress.
3. Legs & Feet : I believe legs and feet are an underrated source of deception clues and are often missed. Liars are usually acutely aware of hand and arm movement and will minimise it, but forget to reduce the movement in their legs, particularly if they think their legs are hidden out of sight, such as under a table or desk
4. Hand to Face: Two common tactics of people who are lying are either; they attempt to hide their mouth or to hold their mouth closed - and often touch their nose as it has become itchy due to increased blood flow to that area - Pinocchio style! It's as if the liar subconsciously wants to hide the source of the lie itself. You may have noticed, particularly with young children who have yet to learn how to hide their deceit effectively, that when they tell a lie or inadvertently say something that they wished they hadn't, they instantaneously put their hand across their mouth. This is sometimes a very overt and animated gesture. The same principle applies to adults, however, the signs are more subtle as we have learned self-control and also to minimise the signs of lying. So adult liars may attempt to touch their mouth and/or touch their nose as they lie - sometimes subtly with their fingers or even with an object, such as a pen or coffee cup.
5. Deflection: Deflection is as the name infers, a way to deflect someone's attention on to something else to avoid being questioned or to avoid answering a question. Liars will sometimes do this and attempt to do it subtly, usually as part of an overelaborate response to a question - that doesn't actually answer the question. Coincidentally politicians are very good at this technique! If someone answers your question with a question - turn on your Lie Radar - or as I call it in my book- your Liedar.

Dr David Craig author of the book known as (depending on which country you live in either "Lie Catcher" or "Detect Deceit" - Become a human lie detector in under 60 minutes.

http://www.amazon.com/Lie-Catcher-detector-minutes-ebook/dp/B005MMFX3K -

Five Clues

Unfortunately what you are suggesting is exactly what has been taught for years and it is wrong because these behaviors are indicative of stress relief not deception. touching of the nose is not deception nor are most of the things you point out. It is that kind of information that contributes to misidentifying people as liars. Lastly please don't use blog postings to advertise your material.

I got a better line for you Big Joe!

Ready...lights...camera...action!

Kelly: Well Oddball, what do you think?

Oddball: It's a wasted trip baby. Nobody said nothing about locking horns with no Tigers.

Big Joe: Hey look, you just keep them Tigers busy and we'll take care of the rest.

Oddball: The only way I got to keep them Tigers busy is to LET THEM SHOOT HOLES IN ME!

Crapgame: Hey, Oddball, this is your hour of glory. And you're chickening out!

Oddball: To a New Yorker like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Tigers.

Kelly: Nobody's asking you to be a hero.

Oddball: No? Then YOU sit up in that turret baby.

Kelly: No, because you're gonna be up there, baby, and I'll be right outside showing you which way to go.

Oddball: Yeah?

Kelly: Yeah.

Oddball: Crazy... I mean like, so many positive waves... maybe we can't lose, you're on!

lie detection

I seem to agree with Mr. Navarro on this matter. There are so many books, training sessions, certificates and so on and so forth on the matter of "catching" someone in a lie. However, in my opinion (not being at all an expert just an enthusiast" that all humans are different, how we react to something will always be different and catching someone in a lie in my opinion you would need to have an inclination of who this person is and have had a lot of interaction with them. When I am thinking I tend to jitter, that does not mean I am lying or hiding something or nervous about something. It is simply my process!
By the way Just a question, so basically software for detecting microexpressions are reliable and lead to something or are just another attempt?

Thank you and wonderful post please keep them coming!

Movie Reference: Clear and Present Danger

Jack Ryan: I didn't sign up for this. This is someone's bullshit political agenda. Who authorized this? Cutter?

Ritter: Cutter couldn't tie his own shoes without permission.

Jack Ryan: If I go down you're coming with me.

Ritter: Wrong again. I have an *autographed get-out-of-jail-free card*! "The President of the United States authorizes Deputy Director of the CIA Robert Ritter to conduct 'Operation Reciprocity' including all necessary funding and support. This action is deemed important to the national security of the United States etcetera, etcetera, etcetera." You don't *have* one of these, do you Jack?
[as Ryan walks away]

Ritter: Gray! The world is gray, Jack!

Wanna have some adolescent fun?

Kelly (Clint Eastwood), a former lieutenant who has been demoted to private as a scapegoat following a disastrous assault some time earlier, captures Colonel Dankhopf of German Intelligence. When Kelly notices his prisoner has a gold bar in his briefcase, he gets him drunk to try to get information about the gold. Before he is killed by an attacking German Tiger tank, the drunken Dankhopf blurts out that there is a cache of 14,000 gold bars (worth $16 million) stored in a bank vault 30 miles behind enemy lines in the town of Clermont (most likely Clermont-en-Argonne).

Kelly recruits the rest of his platoon, including skeptical Master Sergeant "Big Joe" (Telly Savalas), to sneak off and steal the gold.

Eventually, others have to be recruited (or invite themselves) into the scheme, such as an opportunistic supply sergeant "Crapgame" (Don Rickles); a proto-hippie Sherman tank commander, "Oddball" (Donald Sutherland) - who spouts a number of counter-culture lines such as

"Always with the negative waves Moriarty, always with the negative waves."

A number of stereotypical G.I.s presented as competent but war-weary veterans who are as much fed up with their incompetent or self-serving superiors as they are with the Germans.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelly's_Heroes

You would make a great "Big Joe"! => Telly Savalas as Master Sergeant "Big Joe", the platoon's de jure leader.

Welcome to my "delusional" apophenia world Big Joe Navarro!

Clint Eastwood rocks!

5 Best Clues - against a baseline, of course :)

Hi, I hope these comments are useful
There is no singular clue that reliably indicates deceit; a Lie Catcher needs to observe a cluster of clues, that occurs simultaneously - which is in contrast to baseline behaviour (when the person is being truthful). Also, no technique in lie detection is 100% accurate.
Five Best Clue Leakages to Look for:
1. The Eyes: The eyes are an incredibly valuable source of information that humans naturally rely upon. This is particularly evident when we look at photographs, as we cannot rely upon body movement and speech. When shown a photograph of a person, the first place we usually look is the eyes in an effort to assess the emotion of that person.
My favourite area to focus upon to identify if a person is lying is the eyes. It appears very difficult for people to fabricate information or invent a story and maintain normal eye behaviour. It's as if our brain and our eyes are hardwired together and when the brain is put under pressure, the eyes reveal it. The three key areas of the eyes to focus on are: Eye Contact, Blink Rate and Eye Movement/Direction.
2. Voice Flow: It's very hard to tell a spontaneous lie and maintain a fluid speech cadence (or rhythm). As the liar tries hard to fabricate an answer the increased cognitive load (brain drain), impairs the natural speech flow. The voice may also increase in pitch - due to stress.
3. Legs & Feet : I believe legs and feet are an underrated source of deception clues and are often missed. Liars are usually acutely aware of hand and arm movement and will minimise it, but forget to reduce the movement in their legs, particularly if they think their legs are hidden out of sight, such as under a table or desk
4. Hand to Face: Two common tactics of people who are lying are either; they attempt to hide their mouth or to hold their mouth closed - and often touch their nose as it has become itchy due to increased blood flow to that area - Pinocchio style! It's as if the liar subconsciously wants to hide the source of the lie itself. You may have noticed, particularly with young children who have yet to learn how to hide their deceit effectively, that when they tell a lie or inadvertently say something that they wished they hadn't, they instantaneously put their hand across their mouth. This is sometimes a very overt and animated gesture. The same principle applies to adults, however, the signs are more subtle as we have learned self-control and also to minimise the signs of lying. So adult liars may attempt to touch their mouth and/or touch their nose as they lie - sometimes subtly with their fingers or even with an object, such as a pen or coffee cup.
5. Deflection: Deflection is as the name infers, a way to deflect someone's attention on to something else to avoid being questioned or to avoid answering a question. Liars will sometimes do this and attempt to do it subtly, usually as part of an overelaborate response to a question - that doesn't actually answer the question. Coincidentally politicians are very good at this technique! If someone answers your question with a question - turn on your Lie Radar - or as I call it in my book- your Liedar.

Dr David Craig author of the book known as (depending on which country you live in either "Lie Catcher" or "Detect Deceit" - Become a human lie detector in under 60 minutes

Book Recommendation

Did you not read the article?
Did you not see the first response?

Go peddle your mediocre book somewhere else, and if you can tell from my sarcastic tone - My eyes are not twitching; the voice in my head tells me I've wasted too much time on you already in a steady tone; my legs and feet are under my desk and not visible but are moving as I read your self-indulging critique; my hands are steady at my keyboard; my liedar is on and is detecting much deceit as I read your self hype.

Do you really troll comment boards to hype your own book? You must really have self esteem problems - let me recommend MY book to you.....

I want your help Big Joe! It's the iceburg sinking the Titanic!

Look through my eyes:

Siege [We Are]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GooCV0wu_xg

What are YOU going to do about it?

How legit is the FBI when I can get an E-mail like this! Insanity!

ANTI-TERRORIST AND MONITARY CRIMES DIVISION
FBI HEADQUARTERS IN WASHINGTON, D.C.
FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION
J. EDGAR HOOVER BUILDING
935 PENNSYLVANIA AVENUE, NW WASHINGTON, D.C. 20535-0001
TEL: 206-337-5630
 
 
ATTENTION FUND BENEFICIARY,
 
 
THIS IS AN OFFICIAL ADVICE FROM THE FBI FOREIGN REMITTANCE/TELEGRAPHIC DEPT., IT HAS COME TO OUR NOTICE THAT THE C.B.N BANK NIGERIA DISTRICT HAS RELEASED 10,500,000.00 U.S DOLLARS INTO BANK OF AMERICA IN YOUR NAME AS THE BENEFICIARY,BY INHERITANCE MEANS.
THE C.B.N BANK NIGERIA KNOWING FULLY WELL THAT THEY DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH FACILITIES TO EFFECT THIS PAYMENT FROM THE UNITED KINGDOM TO YOUR ACCOUNT, USED WHAT WE KNOW AS A SECRET DIPLOMATIC TRANSIT PAYMENT S.T.D.P TO PAY THIS FUND THROUGH WIRE TRANSFER,THEY USED THIS MEANS TO COMPLETE THE PAYMENT.
THEY ARE STILL, WAITING FOR CONFIRMATION FROM YOU ON THE ALREADY TRANSFERRED FUNDS WHICH WAS MADE IN DIRECT TRANSFER SO THAT THEY CAN DO FINAL  CREDITING TO YOUR ACCOUNT. SECRET DIPLOMATIC PAYMENTS ARE NOT MADE UNLESS THE FUNDS  ARE RELATED TO TERRORIST ACTIVITIES WHY MUST YOUR PAYMENT BE MADE IN   SECRET TRANSFER , IF YOUR TRANSACTION IS LEGITIMATE,IF YOU ARE NOT A TERRORIST, THEN WHY DID YOU NOT RECEIVE THE MONEY DIRECTLY INTO YOUR ACCOUNT,THIS IS A  PURE CODED ,MEANS OF PAYMENT?
RECORDS WHICH WE HAVE HAD WITH THIS METHOD OF PAYMENT IN THE PAST HAS ALWAYS BEEN RELATED TO TERRORIST ACTS, WE DO NOT WANT YOU TO GET INTO TROUBLE AS SOON AS THESE FUNDS REFLECT IN YOUR ACCOUNT IN THE U.S.A, SO IT IS  OUR DUTY AS A WORD WIDE COMMISSION TO CORRECT THIS LITTLE PROBLEM BEFORE THIS  FUND WILL BE CREDITED INTO YOUR PERSONAL ACCOUNT.
DUE TO THE INCREASED DIFFICULTY AND UNNECESSARY SCRUTINY BY THE AMERICAN AUTHORITIES WHEN FUNDS COME FROM OUTSIDE OF EUROPE, AND THE MIDDLE  EAST, THEF.B.I  BANK COMMISSION FOR EUROPE HAS STOPPED THE TRANSFER ON ITS WAY TO DELIVER PAYMENT OF $10,500,000.00 TO DEBIT YOUR RESERVE ACCOUNT AND PAY YOU THROUGH A SECURED DIPLOMATIC TRANSIT ACCOUNT (S.D.T.A). WE GOVERN AND OVERSEES FUNDS TRANSFER FOR THE WORLD BANK AND THE REST OF THE WORLD.
WE  ADVICE YOU CONTACT US IMMEDIATELY,AS THE FUNDS HAVE BEEN  STOPPED AND ARE BEING HELD IN OUR CUSTODY ,UNTIL YOU CAN BE ABLE TO PROVIDE US WITH
A DIPLOMATIC IMMUNITY SEAL OF TRANSFER(DIST) WITHING 3 DAYS FROM THE WORLD LOCAL BANK THAT AUTHORIZE THE TRANSFER FROM WHERE THE FUNDS WAS TRANSFERRED FROM TO CERTIFY THAT THE FUNDS THAT YOU ARE ABOUT TO RECEIVE FROM NIGERIA  ARE ANTITERRORIST/DRUG FREE OR WE SHALL HAVE CAUSE TO CROSS AND IMPOUND THE PAYMENT,WE SHALL RELEASE THE FUNDS IMMEEDIATELY WE RECEIVE THIS LEGAL DOCUMENTS .
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
We have decided to contact you directly to acquire the proper
 
verifications and proof from you to show that you are the rightful person to receive  this fund, because of the amount involve,we want to make sure is a clean and  legal money you are about to receive.  Be informed that the fund are now in  United State in your name , but right now we have ask  the bank not to release  the fund to anybody that comes to them , unless we ask them to do so,  because we have to carry out our investigations first before releasing the fund to  you.
Note that the fund is in the BANK OF AMERICA right now, but we have ask them not to credit the fund to you yet, because we need a solid proof and verifications from you before releasing the funds.
So to this regards you are to re-assure and proof to us that what  you are about to receive is a clean money by sending to us FBI Identification Record and also Diplomatic Immunity Seal Of Transfer(DIST) to satisfy to us  that the money your about to receive is legitimate and real money. You are to  forward the documents to us immediately if you have it in your possession, if you don?t have it let us know so that we will direct and inform you where to  obtain the document and send to us so that we will ask the bank holding the funds   the Bank Of America to go ahead Crediting your account immediately.
This Documents are to be issued to you from the World Local Bank that Authorized the transfer, so get back to us immediately if you don'thave the document so that we will inform you the particular place to obtain the  document in United Kingdom U.K, because we have come to realize that the fund  was Authorized by H.S.B.C Bank in London.
An FBI Identification Record and Diplomatic Immunity Seal Of Transfer(DIST)often referred to as a Criminal History Record or Rap Sheet, is a  listing of certain information taken from fingerprint submissions retained by the  FBI in connection with arrests and, in some instances, federal employment, naturalization, or military service..
THESE CONDITION IS VALID UNTIL 20TH MARCH 2012 AFTER WE SHALL TAKE ACTIONS ON  CANCELLING THE PAYMENT AND THEN CHARGE YOU FOR ILLEGALLY MOVING FUNDS OUT OF NIGERIA .
GURANTEE: FUNDS WILL BE RELEASED ON CONFIRMATION OF THE DOCUMENT.
 
 
 
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
FINAL INSTRUCTION:
60F   CREDIT PAYMENT INSTRUCTION: IRREVOCABLE CREDIT GUARANTEE
61E   BENEFICIARY HAS FULL POWER WHEN VALIDATION IS CLEARED
62    BENNEFICIARIES BANK IN   U.S.A., CAN ONLY RELEASE FUNDS-
62    UPON CONFIRMATION FROM THE WORLD BANK/UNITED NATIONS.
64   BEARERS MUST CLEAR BANK PROTOCOL AND VALIDATION REQUEST
 
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
 
NOTE: We have asked for the above documents to make available the most complete and up-to date records possible for the enhancement of public  safety,welfare and security of Society while recognizing the importance of individual  privacy rights... If you fail to provide the Documents to us, we will charge you with the FBI and take our proper action against you for not proofing to  us the  legitimate of the fund you are about to receive.
The United States Department of Justice Order 556-73 establishes rules and regulations for the subject of an FBI Identification Record to obtain a copy of his or her own Record for review. The FBI Criminal Justice Information Services(CJIS) Division processes these requests to check illegal activities in  U.S.A.
An individual may request a copy of his or her own FBI Identification Record for personal review or to challenge information on the Record. Other reasons an individual may request a copy of his or her own Identification Record  may include international adoption or to satisfy a requirement to live or work in a foreign country  or receive funds from  another country (i.e., Diplomatic Immunity Seal Of Transfer, letter of good conduct, criminal history background, etc.)
 
 
                         FBI Director
                        Robert S. Mueller, III

the problem is lie detection is 'sexy'...

I loved your article Joe and I am a big fan of Ekman as well. In my job I coach or give workshops on communication skills, and body language is a popular subject! The funny thing is, when I mention that lie detection is really a 50/50 chance, maybe close to 70% with serious training, the audience lets out a sigh and then slump into their chairs. What they want is some 'expert' to teach them a few tricks so that they can catch someone close to them or at work in a lie. They don't want to hear the reality that where your eyes look to doesn't matter and that micro-expressions are not indications of lying (at least directly). Don't worry Joe - I do not give in to temptation. I just present the facts. But the challenge is that lie detection is 'sexy' for lack of a better word, and people chase the formula. The simpler the better. (Remember the book Body Language by Julius Fast? Everyone read that and suddenly became an 'expert' overnight by reading simplified science with massive generalizations.) Anyway I just wanted to say thanks for the article.

Lie Detection is Sexy

Ric thank you so much for your comments, it sounds like you have reasoned this properly with due caution to all claims and I am glad to hear that. I wish you could have seen the tripe they drilled into us at the police academy about nose touching and mouth touching and "kinesics". Uuugh. Anyway it sounds like you have a firm grasp on it and I am glad to hear it. I do remember that book by fast and how people still think crossed arms is a blocking behavior rather than a self hug. Very kind of you to tell me your thoughts, I thought i would absolutely get hate mail and maybe they are sharpening their claws out there but I just felt that the truth should get out, the streets are not the lab. thank you. Stay in touch. Joe

lie detection is sexy

Hi Joe,

Let me first note that, YES I am certain they are sharpening their claws getting ready to attack! However, I believe their are certain things that are just too much when it comes to lie detection. I mean from own personal experience you can discredit some things that have been said. I mean I cross my arms very often just because I don't know what to do with them at some point...it's as simple as that but it doesn't mean I am being defensive. And I love the way you explained as being a self-hug!
As for what Rick has said, I agree, Lie detection as a topic is intriguing and Secy. Everyone wants a piece and everyone wants it to be something it's not. I believe as you said in your book in one of the 10 commandments that "observing in context is key"!

lie detection is sexy

Jessica, thank you for your thoughts and I agree, lie detection is so very complex.

Absolutely so....

Hi Joe
I absolutely agree that we cannot know when someone is lying and I'm interested that you quote Aldert Vrij as I have also referred to his work in my own writings about this. It is very seductive to think we don't have to actually engage with someone to know what they are thinking and that we can just 'look at them' and 'observe their body language', but this is more of an indication with discomfort with verbal communication and/or wanting an 'easy way' of convincing ourselves of our beliefs about someone. I wrote this about the very same things you are referring to: http://www.communicationandconflict.com/interpreting_body_language.html

There simply cannot be a 'scientific' way of knowing if someone is lying and if you look at much of the research that has been done on this its outcomes have either been wildly misquoted such as the "Mehrabian Myth" that 'only 7% of our communication is through our words and the rest is tone of voice or body language' - Mehrabian himself says he cringes when such misquotes of his work are stated as if they are 'facts'. Alternatively the very basis of such research is incredibly unscientific and lacking in rigour in how the experiment is set up.

Only provable facts can show if someone has lied, not 'looking at their body language' to see if they are lying when they communicate. As Vrij points out in his work on lie detection, for any apparent behaviour that 'indicates' lying, there is other research that contradicts it, thus negating it as an objective scientific 'fact'.

Absolutely so

Well said, unfortunately many professions seek a magic answer or Pinnochio effect when in fact there is non.

The truth about lie detection

Thanks Jo, so glad this is being challenged as for me it is one of the major obstacles to effective communication, the belief in 'body language' being factual or 'scientific', in that people then project what they want to believe or, often, what is actually more true about themselves, onto others and thus don't feel any impulse to communicate directly with the other person to find out what they think or feel. As a consequence people in unresolved conflict live parallel lives rather than convergent ones and live with painful beliefs about others that are purely self-created. But then 'blame' their pain on the other. With respect to lying, the belief you can 'tell' from body language is not only dangerous and unjust in court situations as you described but deeply damaging to personal relationships as well.

Thanks again for bringing this up.

Born and Bred for Detecting Deception.

Mr. Navarro,

I am a Mentalist & Consultant, and not the 'magician who uses mental presentations' kind. A real Mentalist. I have been called by newspapers 'The Man Who Knows Too Much' as well as 'The Real Sherlock Holmes.' However the reason for my success is why I've come to leave this comment.

I was raised by professional psychic readers, charlatans. I was able to read people and spot deception by the time I was 15, with scary accuracy.

Since then of course I've spent my life studying all the methods you can imagine one would dive into, in regards to Mentalism. That includes for me, everything YOU have ever written. Having a near eidetic memory didn't hurt either. While I've received a lot of attention for my abilities and methods, most of the time I cannot explain myself, certain abilities are just ingrained into my psyche if you will, from childhood.

Do you think it is possible to be 'bred' to detect deception.

I mean this, wholeheartedly. Thank you Mr. Navarro.

Your work is a endless inspiration to mine.

-Joe Riggs

Born and Bred

No but you can be taught to improve your ability to observe and to look for deception, but there are limits. Bred, no, even identical twins diverge in certain abilities.

Looks like the sharpened claws never came out....

:-)

I think people must be aware, at some level, that detecting lies is very difficult. Given the statistics on how much people lie, even the ones wanting the magic formula for lie detection have to know how many lies *they* got away with. Also, how many people have the spine to confront someone directly even if they did spot a lie? Social fears are strong enough that many people won't confront anyone.

I recently watched a mother lie to her two boys, then order her mother to lie to them, too, so it would look like she wasn't lying. Her boys KNEW she was lying, but they didn't call her on it. They just got angry and walked away.

Movies

Everyone likes to believe what they see in movies - i.e. Sharon Stone. Let's face it - it's not like that.

I liked your article; Not being in the field precisely, I thought the data and references were interesting to back up what you have experienced. In my mind, that's what makes people good at what they do. While nothing objective may be available, subjective cues and experience might help investigators to ask the right questions - more of a "game" of Clue so to speak.

On that note, what is the data/experience related to what criminal suspects verbalize? Inconsistencies?

Thank you!

Use your Intuition!!

The ONLY way you will be able to tell a liar is through your intuition or your gut instincts!! People who are very deceptive or true liars have been doing this for years. They are professionals! They have learned what to do to convince you they are telling the truth. It's funny because we had a guy that was hired for our team that was the nicest, most charming guy around. He talked about how much he knew about our services and what he was going to do for the company and ended up doing nothing! Generally speaking, people who lie know how to throw the charm on so that you never really know they're coming. Then when you get close to them or their secrets..poof..they're gone!

I've come to realize..a lot of this is spiritual...so the only way to fight against it is to use your intuition. Your gut instincts won't ever lie to you!

How then would you explain

wrongful conviction? Wrongful conviction happens when people fail to detect the truth, and not just at one level. Whoever is investigating fails to detect the truth, and the court and jury also fail to detect it.

Nice

There are some very interesting comments on here.

This is outdated a bit compared to the Chase hughes thing that came out for lie spotting. I just read that site this morning. Ekman is supposed to be writing a new book too.

Joe Navarro,Chase Hughes and Paul Ekman are probably the most widely regarded in my opinion.

Nice

Thank you. I am very familiar with Paul, I've never heard of Hughes, but thank you.

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Joe Navarro is a former FBI Counterintelligence Agent and is the author of What Every Body is Saying. He is an expert on nonverbal communications and body language.

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