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Recently I evaluated a new patient, a young woman who wondered whether medication might ease her depression. She was in therapy elsewhere, and although seeing me was her idea, she was apprehensive about adding an antidepressant. I did end up recommending one, at which point she asked: "Aren't antidepressants just a crutch?" Read More
















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I believe Depressives have no underlying problems and what problems they do have are created by Depression which creates dysfunctional emotions. When the Depression is minimized to a successful degree, so go their problems.
Medicine helps calibrate the chronic depressives emotions.
The ''crutch'' theory is useful for the emotionally sensitive that fall into a caused Depression.
I keep rereading the above statement and...
...and there are tons of studies that conclude chronic depression (and anxiety, and bipolar) creates or results from physiological abnormalities in the brain.
To say that people with depression have no underlying problems is false.
David Kaplan
Thank you...
...for writing this article. There are many people, including some psychiatrists, who believe that, once diagnosed, a person is destined to stay on medications forever.
I believe that, with proper medication and therapy, a person can be "healed" and discontinue meds when the efforts of the doctor and patient have crystalized enough.
I think what drives people away from psychiatry/psychology is the incessant need to for doctor to be ambigous. When a person is in pain and asks, "Will I ever get better?" - they don't want to hear, "Well that depends on you."
"I assured my patient that the antidepressant I was suggesting was indeed a crutch: a temporary means to relieve her suffering while her mind is healing. It would also help minimize further psychic injury from poor sleep, social withdrawal, undue pessimism, and perhaps suicidal urges. Like a crutch, when she is feeling better she will stop using it, secure in the knowledge it is available again if it is ever needed."
I think this statement should be part of any doctors treatment.
David Kaplan
it is time to wake up to the truth these pills are poison
http://bipolarblast.wordpress.com/2009/07/08/finally-the-happy-ending-co...
The link above tells of one womans story a woman in the helping profession like you. I racked my brain thinking how do I get through to you. The above link is the result I hope you read it.
The ad for pristique on this site did not go unnoticed by me. Is this yet another professional opinion bought and paid for by big pharma?
In case you don't read it here was my original bit I had to say in response to your story.
If I had a nickel for every time I had to write you are dead wrong about antidepressants I would be rich.
They are horrid drugs the side effects are hellish the withdrawals are worse. The fact that you do not tell your patients what else these drug do to hurt them in criminal. Then again you would not be the first authority I have had to educate. Take a look at paxilprogress.org theeffexoractivist.org antidepressantfacts.com should I go on there are thousands of these sites still nobody hears. If you are going to recommend a drug you should at least know what kind of hell you are sending these people to.
Concur
Extending that happy note, see this YouTube video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeq4gSfMXdo
An accurate little ditty that articulates how Cymbalta is turning brains inside out by the thousands. And Eli-Lilly is right now recruiting kids for a pediatric clinical trial. Kids! About to be trashed by Cymbalta!
That's not a crutch, that's a sledgehammer.
Sometimes the only thing worse than pills is not taking them
Thanks for writing. In some ways you are preaching to the choir: I've never accepted Pharma money, don't talk to drug reps, and of course have no control over the ads that Psychology Today, or any other commercial venue, shows on its site. Follow the link at the end of my post to my own blog, and you can read about my skepticism toward Big Pharma and its promotional campaigns, the overuse of meds in psychiatry, and similar ideas. With enemies like me, you don't need friends...
On the other hand, for every horror story told about meds, there's another about a life turned around, helped to get back on track. Anecdotes are like that. Meds are useful tools for many, even if far from perfect. We'll have to "agree to disagree" on that.
American Manichaenism again!
Some of the comments here fall into the trap of thinking that Big Pharma and its products have to be good or evil. This is a style of thinking that is always around, but seems particularly prevalent in young people, and in certain cultures (America seems particularly ideologically drawn to it compared to most Western countries).
It's worth bearing in mind that, contra US law, corporations are not persons. Large corporations have multiple causes behind their collective behaviours, good and bad, productive and destructive. Their products should be assessed for usefulness given the best data we have, and as far as possible marketing should be entirely ignored. (That's not to say that I wouldn't like to see them tamed with appropriate regulation/legislation, but actually I think the manichaean perspective makes this more difficult).
Steven seems to have the balance about right, on my reading.
Misplace Bifurcation
Re Dr. Reidbord: "...for every horror story told about meds, there's another about a life turned around..."
A one to one horror story verus positive outcome suggests that a high percentage of patients taking CNS drugs have lousy experiences. Connect that with marginal response rates versus placebo and Steve himself has not painted a pretty picture.
Now my mind is not emeshed in a Manichean trap at all. I (and the Anonymous poster perhaps) are merely seeking transparency. So rather than suggesting that psycho-pharmaceuticals are benign substances (cute little crutches), Steve should have been up front with the his young female patient. I.e.,
"I can prescribe this drug, but note that it can screw up you metabolism, cause your sex life to fall off the table and wreck your ability to sleep properly. And OBTW, when to try to get off it (if Cymbalta), it could be like de-toxing from heroin."
Have psychiatrists talk to their patients honestly like that. So they can make a truly informed decision. Then I'll have no complaint.
SteveM - nothing in your tone
SteveM - nothing in your tone makes it sounds like you're open to evidence on the issue. A transparent discussion of costs/benefits to any given treatment does not necessarily entail that someone needs to trot out whatever studies or anecdotes you happen to favour.
I don't really have an opinion on the issue, and don't know enough about it. I have read some studies and have some anecdotes (family member taking Zoloft, and happy and healthy for the first time in over 30 years), but I don't take them seriously enough to have fixed a general and universal position on drug treatment. I suspect if I were depressed, I'd resist drugs at least on a first treatment pass.
But your language and tone strongly suggest a Bushite "you're with us or your against us" attitude. This is on the admittedly low-bandwidth and lossy basis of a blog comment (which seems to bring out the 18-year old in most of us).
I'm Sorry - You're A Nitwit...
Huh? "Bushite" What does politics have to do with this?
Here's a typical Cymbalta withdrawal self-report:
"I am so glad to have found this site!! I have been trying to get off of cymbalta for several months now. I am currently taking 30mg every other day…which I do somewhat okay with. Once I don’t take it for 2 days the withdrawl begins. I have all the symptoms listed by previous “bloggers” and then some. A few months ago i stopped taking it for about 4 days and ended up having to leave work and go to the doctor. He hooked me up to an ekg and I was having severe heart palpatations. He asked me if anything in my daily routine had changed and we finally pinpointed the cymbalta. I hate this drug and want to be rid of it so so badly. I just don’t know how to stop taking it!! I work full time and have 2 small children at home. I can’t afford to be out of commission and I sure can’t seem to function without taking this medication. Can anyone offer some solution?? I am so afraid to take the final “leap” and cut it out completely. HELP!!!"
So smart guy, how should this poor victim's physician have counseled her before she started on this drug?
BTW, there are tens of thousands just like her that have been trashed by psycho-pharm without warning.
If you're curious tough guy, go on Cymbalta for a month and then try to get off and get back to us.
Steve R., you prepared to write the script?
You say it's 'typical', but
You say it's 'typical', but it's just an anecdote. I've no doubt an equally fervent opponent (because you surely desire and have opponents) would bring up different anecdotes. They're called war stories, and tend to be beloved of manichean internet-warriors.
If serious withdrawal symptoms turn out to be well-evidenced, then they should be treated in the standard way. Withdrawal symptoms happen with some drugs, it's reasonable to consider them a strike against prescribing, but when a reasoned cost/benefit analysis on the part of doc and patient make it seem worth using, then withdrawal can be planned for the appropriate time.
None of this has anything whatsoever to do with Steve's post, by the way, as he didn't name the antidepressant in question.
Do you think anyone who doesn't obey your ideological commandments is thereby a "nitwit", "tough guy", "smart guy" etc? Is this how you behave and talk to others in person?
OK, this is boring and pointless. Last word to you.
Last Gasp
Thank you. My argument is boring and pointless to you because it's correct. Your argument stinks. I'm sorry but it does. It's fetid. CNS drugs are uniformly dirty. I'm sorry about that too, but they are.
BTW, see this presentation to the FDA about Cymbalta:
http://www.fda.gov/downloads/AdvisoryCommittees/CommitteesMeetingMateria...
Sometimes psycho-pharm is necessary for sure. But like chemo-therapy is necessary. That should be the clinical standard. Not the Pixie Dust model espoused by über-nitwit Peter Kramer.
P.S. Re: "ideological commandments" You say "Manichean", I say "Nitwit" Versteh?
P.P.S. Cymbalta is marketed as a first line depression drug. A drug Steve R. may prescribe. Go ahead try it. I'm serious...
I am not a psychiatrist, I am
I am not a psychiatrist, I am currently a student working on my psych major but more importantly I take pristque and previous to this i have taken several other antidepressants for depression and anxiety.
I can understand where these arguments are being formed by the research, but honestly unless you have depression or anxiety or are bipolar and have had to deal with these issues on a day to day basis than I am less likely to believe you than my own experience no matter how many years of research or knowledge you have on the subject.
I think this article is absolutely true, the medications are a crutch but sometimes crutches are necessary. I am currently going to a psychiatrist so that i can function on my own without needing medication but until then I can live my life without the repercussions of a life with untreated anxiety and depression. I know the side effects well, not only did my doctor review them with me over and over but i also researched each medication prior to taking it. It took several to find one that works for me and yes there are downsides to it, for example when i run out of meds or am off them for whatever reason my body has physical and emotional withdraws that are intense, but as long as i follow the correct usage of the medication I am fine. (that Cymbalta example is just a good reason why they should monitor more heavily the patients that are taking these medications, if their Doctor actually recommended they stop taking it then they would know to slowly reduce the milligrams, you can't just stop taking hormones all at once without expecting withdraws)
It allows me to sleep at night, go out like a normal person, make it to class and work, have the energy to take care of my child, and do what most people are able to do on their own everyday. Best of all my doctor and I are working toward a day where i won't have to take it anymore, but in the meantime I find it very useful.
Thank you Anonymous
THANK you...I also suffer from Bi-polar and have tried several medications that had bad side effects and finally found one that worked. It was not something I wanted to do (be on meds) and I fought it every step of the way...but it was a matter of life and death. Unless you have experienced the pure hell of having a mental illness or have worked in the field, shut your mouth. There are more people helped by these meds than you are aware of - most people don't share that information freely - especially to someone like you who judge it "poison", etc.
Thank you.
It is so comforting to know that there are actually psychiatrists out there that feel this way.
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