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We Owe to Our Sons What We've Given Our Daughters

The key is for parents of boys to wholeheartedly support a movement for their sons with the same passion that mothers (and fathers) of daughters supported one that has helped to thrust their children into the forefront of achievement in today’s world. We have left half our children behind, and this cannot be good for America’s future. Read More

Gender Equality

I think that in recent years there has been a focus on empowering women in the name of "gender equality," which is admirable, but I think it's a little misguided because it seems like a very lopsided approach. Women should be more empowered, but it's important to see how both, women and men should ultimately fit into the big picture of gender equality in the long run (i.e. what are we aiming for with respect to both, men and women?). In other words, I think there has to be more discussion about the kind of roles that men should play with respect to "gender equality". After all, you can't really balance a (weighing) scale just by focusing on one side. You have to look at the whole scale to determine how both sides weigh with respect to each other to determine whether or not the scale is balanced.

At least we can finally say men have some hope!

It's sad to hear about the plight of man today under the fraudulent philosophy of feminism which preaches equality WITHOUT responsibility. But thankfully men are waking up and getting their balls back: http://manhood101.com/ebook.html

You want shocking?

Here in France we have a ministre for women rights. Think about it a second, a ministre for womens rights...that must mean our socialist gouvernement does believe that women/girls/females are at a disadvantage abosolutely across ALL societal issues compared to men.

Yet france does have figures in education comparable to the usa. Male completed suicide figures are three times higher for men. Jobs lost to the economy in metallurgy for example you have guessed it are male jobs in the majority.

Take cancer here can hardly move without a reminder of breast cancer ovarian cancer etc etc yet hard facts i saw recently show a minimum of 20 thousand more men die each year from cancer, the advertising for male cancers you ask?? strictly 0 percent yes 0 percent.

Men you see if you had not noticed are today as they were yesterday considered collectively as expendable.

As long as feminists and male feminists consider in any way shape or form that there is not 110 percent equality or even to tell the truth an distinct advantage in society for women, never ever shall mens issues be taken seriously.

You want shocking?

Here in France we have a ministre for women rights. Think about it a second, a ministre for womens rights...that must mean our socialist gouvernement does believe that women/girls/females are at a disadvantage abosolutely across ALL societal issues compared to men.

Yet france does have figures in education comparable to the usa. Male completed suicide figures are three times higher for men. Jobs lost to the economy in metallurgy for example you have guessed it are male jobs in the majority.

Take cancer here can hardly move without a reminder of breast cancer ovarian cancer etc etc yet hard facts i saw recently show a minimum of 20 thousand more men die each year from cancer, the advertising for male cancers you ask?? strictly 0 percent yes 0 percent.

Men you see if you had not noticed are today as they were yesterday considered collectively as expendable.

As long as feminists and male feminists consider in any way shape or form that there is not 110 percent equality or even to tell the truth an distinct advantage in society for women, never ever shall mens issues be taken seriously.

according to some articles

according to some articles men are falling behind because our society has gone from heavy lifting(which men are generally better at) to keep it running to intellect and networking (which women are generally better at) to keep it running.

Why don't men stay home and raise the family while the wife goes out and makes the money since the workings of our society would fit better.

If the economy/society now is better built for women as I've read in countless articles, then the logical thing would be for women to be the breadwinner since she has a better chance at it (like men did when the economy required physical work more so than now)

I can't count the number of times men have said that they are logical and do things on reason and not on emotion like women do, but I don't see a lot of men clamoring to be the SAHD because it makes more sense in this economy. They can't handle the emotional impact and their lack of self worth by doing an unpaid unappreciated job.

Indeed...

Another PT blogger presented the case on how thoughts of romantic relationships are causing anxiety in many young women who feel interfere with their ambitions even though they may think about the topic constantly... Could this be the other side of the coin?

Young men on campuses are becoming scarce, and as such they're prime commodities as romantic partners and as future professionals in a workforce that's becoming more and more female dominated. If you think about it, it's not the entire half of children that are becoming disadvantaged, but a part of it. It seems to me that economics could be helpful in understanding why so many boys aren't going to college.

First, you have to think in terms of the incredible debt new graduates face even before the get a job; then you look at the prospects of getting a job that will pay them enough to conform to traditional male/female roles. Then, there are other demographic reasons that may contribute to the effect... For instance, in the U.S., boys under 15 outnumber girls by a 5:4 ratio. This may generate a great deal of social competition during puberty, which is detrimental to boys and girls alike.

For minorities, the prospects of making it through college and getting hired may be even dimmer, which could offer a clue as to why a career in other more profitable, yet riskier and possibly illegal fields might be more appealing. No wonder the higher proportion of minority men incarcerated in American prisons.

Then you look at the group of boys who makes it through school and into successful careers, and no wonder they become even more successful in terms of getting settled in a traditional family. It's interesting that these men marry educated women as well, and very often, it is the woman who gives up their job to take care of the family. The job of raising children is extremely undervalued, and as such, SAHD get not respect.

I agree that parents should pay attention to all children and not just to their daughters, but this should never be perceived or treated as a problem created by feminism. I believe the source of this problem is rooted in the lack of opportunity boys and young men face at this moment. In this regard, boys playing video games is only a symptom of a deeper malaise.

On average men and women are

On average men and women are equally intelligent. Men have a wider variance in IQ than women (meaning more with very high intelligence and more with very low intelligence) but neither is more suited to 'intellect and networking' than the other. In fact, by your argument men are more suited to it since the most intelligent quartile of them are (on average) more intelligent than the most intelligent quartile of women. The fact that men are falling behind is a blight on society and a major flaw in our education system.

It's people like you...

..with you're simplistic baloney, that are part of the problem.

"...intellect and networking (which women are generally better at)..." Men are only good at "heavy lifting"?

Where have you been for the past 10,000 years? Men invented basically everything that women now claim their better at.

How about STEM degrees? Women are not tackling tough Engineering programs (essential for our 21 Century economy) and many that do drop out.

Women are surpassing men in earning soft degrees -- that's not going to take us very far in this highly competitive World.

Any woman who believes that

Any woman who believes that men are going to just give up and stay home with the kids is headed for single motherhood.

Most Men may be happy to take over the household between jobs but other than a few pandering "male feminists", men are hardwired for a more active role.

Also, many assume that the only way to get ahead is a degree, up unit the 80's experience and knowledge lead to the higher paying jobs (and they still do.)

There's going to be a lot of women with their MBA's and Psych degrees wondering why they aren't hot items on the job market.

We've done our girls a great disservice by convincing them that academics the path to success.

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how can I get involved?

I would like to help in this fight for change - how can I do my part?

how can I get involved?

I would like to help in this fight for change - how can I do my part?

helping in the fight for change

Thanks for your interest, Susan.

Just being aware of the problem is a big step. I would also suggest you check out the Boys Initiative website, to find out about who is doing things (incuding affinity networks).

There are also blogs addressing these issues including the one I edit on the Boys Initiative site (Boys and Young Men: Attention Must Be Paid), and one I like a lot (by Jennifer Fink, who is the mom of four sons): Blogging 'Bout Boys
(http://bloggingboutboys.blogspot.com/). The latest post on there is titled "How to Help Boys," which could be quite helpful.

I'd also recommend Michael Gurian's book, "The Minds of Boys: Saving Our Sons From Falling Behind in School and Life." (I cite this book in my piece). Books by Richard Whitmire and Leonard Sax might also be useful.

I think that getting together with other parents of sons might give you some clout if you are concerned about what is happening in your local schools; and I am also a believer in lobbying your elected officials, including those in Washington.

Best of luck!

Mark

Are you kidding?

I'm kind of shocked that this website even brought it up given the fact that the entire "psychology industry" is filled with feminist who were trained at highly liberal arts universities. Empowered women is a good thing. Complete equality is a great thing. But the radical feminist have taken the original desires of the womens movement and turned it into something totally different. For example, the issues of equality in custody along the lines of shared parenting. Women fight that tooth and nail and so does every single womens right group. But who are they hurting? WOMEN in paternal families? Female siblings of the child? And how about half of all custodial mothers who maintain the framework for their sons to be marginalized in their children's lives? Wonder what these women will say as grandmothers when their sons are removed from his children and the grandmother rarely sees the child?

Boys/ men and change

Since men are generally preferred in society, why are they struggling? And why are they not saying something about the fact that they are in need? Women fight so hard to address the struggles they face yet men do not want to say what they really think/ want. So what is holding them back?

I agree that gender equality is a two way street, ie. many women fight hard for equal treatment but its still not widely accepted by society. Attitudes need to change. So maybe if men start speaking up then it will pave the way for change for both boys and girls. Men would benefit everyone by speaking up and addressing the concerns that they feel they are facing.

Its good news to hear that men feel that they are missing out- it means that there are things that still need to be addressed, and that change in general attitudes of stereotyping of men and women is a possibility in the near future.

Why men don't say what they think/want

Men don't talk about their problems because boys are raised from birth to shoulder their own burdens, to fix their own problems, without assistance and to never complain about it.

When a parent has a little girl who's upset she gets picked up and put on a knee and asked what's wrong. When a parent has a little boy who's upset he gets told to stop crying and sent to his room.

When a girl is bullied in school the school staff is informed and does whatever they can to stop it. When a boy is bullied in school he's told to fight back against the bullies.

When a girl goes to female catering high school and plays by the rules designed to teach her and her female peers better, she gets praised. When a boy loses focus because he can't stand sitting in a chair, staring at a whiteboard scribbling down notes for 6 hours a day he's put on ritalin or suspended.

And finally, when a man brings up the fact that he feels alone in the world and can't handle his problems alone anymore he's told to man up and deal with it. He's told he has it easy because men rule the world, women have it so much harder so he should be a feminist and support equal rights for women so they won't be so oppressed any more. But if he doesn't support feminism then he's a woman-hating bigot who wants women barefoot and in the kitchen because he has the audacity to think his problems are even remotely comparable to the problems women face.

I would be interested to see

I would be interested to see if this correlates with more and more households that are run by single mothers. Perhaps a comparison also with the statistics on just how many men are still living at home, i.e. failing to launch.

Moms have a tendency to be harder on their daughters, we expect more because we know what they will face in the future. Men tend to be the same with their sons. Remove a good number of fathers, usually from their own disinterest, what is a son to do? Especially if the opposite sex parent has a tendency to coddle, baby or expect them to act as "the man of the house" before they are capable of doing so.

we're in this together

Thank you for this article. It discusses a major problem, and I want to help - my family is full of young boys for whose future I care deeply. The most obvious thing I can think of is to be as strongly pro-man as I am pro-woman, and to discourage damaging gender stereotypes. As for the damaging culture that surrounds us, it needs some harsh critique.

To fellow commenters and anyone else who wants to improve men's prospects, I want to say: for the sake of your own cause, please stop blaming "feminism" for everything that's going wrong- it's really pathetic, just as pathetic as feminists blaming men for all that's wrong. We're in this together. We have differences, but we're more alike that we are different - we're human and have to live together in this world. A lot of women who identify as feminists are intelligent, educated and altruistic - exactly the sort of people you want on your side if you want to change the world. Ask them what they want - they want equality. That doesn't mean making the world crappy for men. It means making the world better for everyone.

People who set themselves up as anti-feminist seem to be anti-women's rights, because without feminists women would not have rights. I think the anti-feminists have effectively stigmatised their own cause, and that's why pro-men groups are having a hard time gaining traction politically and accomplishing their goals. "Pro-man" seems to imply "anti-woman" because of the oppositional rhetoric from anti-feminists and social conservatives. Women needed male allies to gain more rights and freedoms, and men need female allies now too.

we're in this together

Thank you for this article. It discusses a major problem, and I want to help - my family is full of young boys for whose future I care deeply. The most obvious thing I can think of is to be as strongly pro-man as I am pro-woman, and to discourage damaging gender stereotypes. As for the damaging culture that surrounds us, it needs some harsh critique.

To fellow commenters and anyone else who wants to improve men's prospects, I want to say: for the sake of your own cause, please stop blaming "feminism" for everything that's going wrong- it's really pathetic, just as pathetic as feminists blaming men for all that's wrong. We're in this together. We have differences, but we're more alike that we are different - we're human and have to live together in this world. A lot of women who identify as feminists are intelligent, educated and altruistic - exactly the sort of people you want on your side if you want to change the world. Ask them what they want - they want equality. That doesn't mean making the world crappy for men. It means making the world better for everyone.

People who set themselves up as anti-feminist seem to be anti-women's rights, because without feminists women would not have rights. I think the anti-feminists have effectively stigmatised their own cause, and that's why pro-men groups are having a hard time gaining traction politically and accomplishing their goals. "Pro-man" seems to imply "anti-woman" because of the oppositional rhetoric from anti-feminists and social conservatives. Women needed male allies to gain more rights and freedoms, and men need female allies now too.

I remember feeling anxious

I remember feeling anxious when my son was born. I grew up in a progressive environment where I received as much encouragement as my brothers did to become whatever I wanted to be. This was back in the 70s, and I don't wish any other woman to go through the fights I went through when I decided to get a degree in a male-dominated profession.

I felt that through my experience, I had a good blueprint for guiding a daughter, but it didn't take too much thought to realize that this was a lot more difficult for a son. I agree with the previous poster that blaming feminism for the this is pathetic, as if blaming feminists or teaching grown men to deal with women is going to solve the situation with boys.

This is a parenting problem above all, one where fathers need to participate fully. This is not going to be solved by teaching boys how to be real men, whatever that means. It's going to be solved by removing stupid gender expectations, i.e. you can show your anger, but not your pain. We also have modern social expectations that compound the problem as we expect boys to be more in tune with emotions, yet we confuse them with the "boys don't cry" code, which in essence are asking boys to relinquish their childhood.

At the time, I read a book that helped me to remove mixed messages when raising my son: «Real Boys: Rescuing Our Sons from the Myths of Boyhood». This was a start, and it's taken a great deal of work to challenge the assumptions I didn't know I had when it came to raising boys. Interestingly enough, as I'm divorced now, his father still preaches the old boy code. My teenage son is perfectly aware of what his father is telling him and listens, but doesn't let that interfere with his feelings. He's not in this world to please anybody, he's here to become a decent human being and a productive member of society.

This only makes me think of when he was feeling isolated at school. He told me, he said that there was a noisy group of peers in his class. He didn't join them, he told them they should be more respectful, and for that he was pushed aside. I'm glad he told me. I went to the school, and he was quickly put in another class. He's a lot happier now. I was not going to add insult to injury by telling him to be a man and stand up for what he believed. That was going to bring him more heartache.

I think most parents want their sons to succeed, but they probably don't have the tools to do it. At the root, it's essential to challenge our own assumptions of what being a boy really is. If we expect them to be real men instead of children, then we're heading for failure. Boys are not equivalent to 'little men', who need to be tough, independent and never cry... Those who blame feminists for this are missing the point big time.

Professional Development is a must for teachers, parents and communities

As a woman, mother, professional, and concerned citizen, I have been worried for over a decade about the state of boyhood and manhood in America. We as a culture are immensely protective of girls and women, as we should be, but we have neglected our sons. In fact, in many ways, we leave them immensely unprotected, as Michael Gurian (The Wonder of Boys) pointed out in 1996. According to USA Today, that book put in motion a "boys movement" in 1996.

I for one was very happy about that. I was working in the Colorado school system and thought, "We are now going to care for our sons as much as our daughters (I am a mother and grandmother of both genders)." In the intervening years, many people are doing just that. Recently, more people are bringing increased passion to the dialogue, as is evidenced by Christina Sommers recent article and Mark Sherman's blog. But the fact also remains, we have a long way to go in search of real compassion for our sons.

Ten years ago, I joined The Gurian Institute, a think tank and training institute that focuses on science-based learning and gender differences between boys and girls and women and men. Over the last decade, I've traveled to over a hundred communities in the U.S. and abroad to provide training. Everywhere I go, I find a great deal of interest in helping boys. I also find confusion about what it means to care for boys as much as girls. Schools, communities, even parents aren't sure whether it is okay to see that boys are struggling as much as girls, and in schools in particular, that they are struggling much more than girls.

One place I just saw this manifest was the Billions Rising campaign. As a woman, I was so glad to see celebrities on television joining together to help combat violence against women. For myself, my daughters, and every woman who has been a victim, I was glad and still am. At the same time, I wondered: where is the campaign for boys and men? Males are far more likely to be victims of violence than females, whether that violence is suicide, murder, school or street violence, assault, or child abuse. The only violence statistic that is close in numbers between boys and girls is sexual abuse/rape. Even that statistical gap closes when prison rape is added to the statistics base.

There is nothing wrong with campaigns to help girls and women. These must and will continue forever. We are and always will be protective of girls and women. But it is time we funded campaigns to protect boys and men with just as much vigor. We are losing a generation of sons right before our eyes. This is as much a "women's" issue as is any other. If we women and feminists do not help these boys and men, we will not be able to fully protect our girls and women. No more is it possible to think "he vs. she"--we are in this together, and it is time we become completely honest about the needs of boys, and how we can help them thrive.

--Dakota Hoyt, Executive Director, the Gurian Institute, www.gurianinstitute.com.

Something that people have

Something that people have missed is that girls do not find intelligent males attractive. They prefer loudmouthed thugs and bullies. Consequently, there is little incentive for boys to display intelligence at school or anywhere else. In fact, intelligence guarantees male sexual disenfranchisement. Intelligence does not carry the same social stigma for girls as it does for boys, which is why they do better. Simple, really.

Too Late

Too late. Take a look at Japanese birth and marriage rates to see your children’s future. All Western nations are imploding.

Japan is generally considered

Japan is generally considered an Eastern culture. Economics is not the same as culture.

Maturity

I have 3 young adult children, 2 girls and 1 boy. I notice a big gap in maturity between boys and girls. If I remember right that gap used to be about 3 years and would gradually disappear in the mid 20's. Now looking at not just my children but their friends, co-workers, fellow students, etc and I see that gap widening. It seems as if many of the boys are stuck in the video game, frat-house syndrome much longer than they used to be while the girls are more serious about life, college and career. I have heard the complaint from the girls that to find somebody at their maturity level they need to date guys 5 to 7 years older than them.

Not Surprising

Not really surprising actually. If one considers a man in his 20s to be at least partially motivated by sex and perceived success he only needs to secure himself a solid internet connection. Video games provide a unique scenario of safe competitive aggressiveness, and even connects him to friends. He is able to, without consequence, feel the rush of battle, the thrill of challenge, and eventually the feel of victory without ever leaving the couch. To reproduce anything close to this in the real world requires significant effort, real world risks, possible humiliation, actual failure, social interaction, and most of the time money. In terms of sex, internet won’t give you compassion or affection, but in terms of novelty and instant gratification it cannot be beat. I know this because I lived it, at least partially. I have since pulled away from that life style, but I lived the video game playing frat life for quite some time. I had my priorities straight, however, and managed to graduate on time in an engineering degree, and make something of myself, but more and more my peers find that an internet connection doesn’t take a whole lot to keep around, it won’t cheat on you, will be safe, cannot humiliate you, and ultimately provides everything they want with almost no effort. To them, the alternative of dating, loving, and raising a family all involve entirely too much risk, effort, and money for the reward they offer. It is not a belief I hold true, but I am an increasingly rare survivor of a culture of instant reward… It’s not that they don’t want challenge; it’s that the reward for the challenge of the real world has lost to artificial stimulation entirely in the minds of some.

I wish I had the answer for you all. I feel that starting young, teaching emotion, channelling the powerful and mostly helpful aggression that comes with an increased testosterone level in positive ways, and allowing possible ways for them to vent their youthful rage would allow them to feel that they are wanted. I feel more and more that no one wants men around at all. I realize saying that young men having more aggression might seem like stereotyping, but I honestly don’t care who you are, I don’t care about the data, there will always be a mix of gender in one person. No 100% stereotypical male traits and no 100% stereotypical female traits. Humans, not just males, have been rewarded for aggression throughout their entire history, but now if you can’t sit still to pay attention to learn reading you clearly need brain development changing drugs. My desire to play tag, run around outside, and explore shouldn’t damn me to permanently altered brain chemistry.

Totally random tangent I realize. I get into this subject way to easily. It just drives me up a wall that a good chunk of people think life is just handed to men. Anyways, I hope you can see why some men might decide that the real world can’t compare to the internet. I hope we can turn that perception around. Frightening as it would seem, 36% of Japanese men ages 16-19 have no interest in sex with real women, and some even despise the idea of it. I find that to be about the most frightening statistic I have ever seen, and I truly don’t know what kind of future that would mean for both women and men in general.

Link for Statistic http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/30/japan-population-decline-youth-...

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