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Why Do Dogs Sniff Each Other?

It's said that dogs sniff each other as a canine equivalent of the human handshake. But is it really just a social gesture? Does it have an adaptive purpose? Does knowing the true reason behind this behavior tell us anything useful about the dog's way of seeing the world? And perhaps more importantly, will it tell us anything about ourselves?

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another theory?

It's interesting to think about... I've enjoyed observing dogs together with curiousity since my 10 yr old was a puppy.

But what about the idea that the sniffing-each-other dogs are gathering more precise information about the other... changes in diet, health, etc.? That they have to be close to the smell to get details?
[not that they think "I wonder what Bowser had for supper?"!]

olfactory information

Hey, Shani,

It's true. Dogs may very well pick up lots of olfactory information thru sniffing one another. But I think Kevin Behan is right; the primary reason they do it is to ground their excess bio-electrical energy. This is evidenced by the fact that they'll periodically re-sniff each other during play, or when any new energy is added to the equation even though they may have already gotten all the information they can about the other dog's diet, health, etc.

The other day I was out with a dog who had a really good sniff fest with a 2nd dog. Then they played for a while until a 3rd dog came along. The 2nd dog immediately sniffed the 3rd dog while the dog I was with re-sniffed the dog he'd sniffed previously. He already had plenty of information about that dog. He presumably had none about the 3rd dog, yet he sniffed the 2nd dog first. (And dogs don't "make mistakes" about what they choose to sniff.)

Also, why do dogs sniff objects that startled or frightened them? And why would a dog need to sniff a dog he lives with if he's only interested in gathering information about that dog's health and diet? Wouldn't he know all about that anyway, just from living with that dog?

And finally, what purpose would there be in gathering information about what the other dog's diet is like? What is the dog supposed to do with that information?

The simplest explanation, as long as it satisfactorily explains all aspects of a behavior, is usually the best.

Anyway, that's how I see it,

LCK

Thanks LCK, food for thought

Thanks LCK, food for thought for me this week... I do like the "grounding themselves" theory, makes a lot of sense.

As for my idea about olfactory information gathering:

-I'm just playing with ideas from my observations

-emotions [like you mentioned, fear] could be added to the list

-what would they do with the info? ...couldn't they just be 'enjoying' it? I mean, like we humans are so visual, we just can't help looking at other people and taking in 'info' even when we have no purpose.

-in raising Labrador pups for a guide dog group, all three developed an [unfortunate, but I was told typical] interest in eating poop of other dogs... and I got notice that they showed some preferences for which pile... for the diet of the other dog, perhaps?

- when my dog has been away from 'her parc' for a number of days, she
is down-right insistent on sniffing the pee-mail, spending more time on each spot... I saw it as info-gathering, but maybe 'grounding' herself?

Another observation - my spayed female, who rarely displays dominance over other dogs, but also isn't overly submissive, will sniff pee-mail, and if she pees after, she always aims NEARBY. but never right ON it. She avoids going if a spot is habitually claimed by a particular dog [even the lawn of her 'best friend']. And when she poops, she searches for a spot, and it's never too close to other dogs' spots. Any thoughts?

good observations

It's true that for human beings just looking at other people, or even scanning our environment, releases dopamine. So you're right: dopamine is probably also a factor when dogs sniff each other.

As for your female, I've written here that dominance and submission are misnomers. These behaviors are actually expressions of nervous tension. (The pharmacological treatment for dominance aggression is some form of anti-anxietal medication.) So there's probably another explanation for your dog's selective peeing.

From my experience, most dogs, male and female, tend to pee on top of urine marks that increase their levels of nervous tension. And while they may sniff and sniff and sniff certain urine marks almost obsessively, and even wag their tails while they're sniffing them, those are the marks that they're least likely to pee on top of.

Perhaps this topic needs an article of its own!

LCK

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/my-puppy-my-self/200904/is-your-dog-...

Thanks, interesting points...

Thanks, interesting points... I'll need to read back on this blog about the dominance/submissive issue.

My dog is pretty laid back and confident around other dogs, so if it's nervous tension, that does make sense. The first time she humped another dog, it was the foster guide dog puppy we had living with us... I always saw it as her saying "this is MY puppy!", but maybe she just got nervous about the pup's rough-and-tumble play with other dogs [which is what usually elicited the humping]... hmmmm.

And if you write about where dogs decide to pee, how about the pooping factor too... my dog usually spends time sniffing out the "perfect" spot to poop [no idea what the components are!]... she starts what I call her slow "poop walk" in the dog park and I know to get a bag in had.

Cheers
Shani

Female Dogs Urinating Habits

I was reading in an earlier post that the fact that larger dogs constantly pees on top of my smaller dogs pee is because of nervouse tension, is that correct? And if so is her nervousness surrounded around the other dog?

How do we tell who is more submissive? I heard that the dog that goes into heat first is the dominant female is that true? Becasue of that's the case the smaller dog is usually in heat first.

The larger dog is a minature schnauzer and griffon, and the smaller dog is a Malteepoo. The older is the schnauzer and she was with us 3 years before we purchased Daisy who is now 3 years old.

What can we do to relax both of them. they go crazy everyday we go to work and attack you when you walk in the door constantly fighting for attention and position.

Thanks I love my girls please help!

KC

Reply to KC

I'm sorry you're having problems. Dominance and submission are not actual behaviors, they're symptoms of anxiety and an inability to be socially flexible, so there's no need to know who's most dominant or submissive. It's a dead end.

It's hard, if not impossible, to use this forum for dog training advice, particularly in a multiple-dog household. However, I recommend you read the articles below, and start hand-feeding each of your dogs, separately, outdoors for all their meals using the pushing exercise. Follow the instructions carefully and you should see some change in their social behaviors.

Here are the links:

http://leecharleskelleysblog.blogspot.com/2009/06/open-letter-to-new-yor...

http://www.leecharleskelley.com/freetrainingtips/thepushingexercise.html

Best of luck. Let me know how it goes.

LCK

Dogs, sniffing, handshakes and human culture

I have just discovered this blog, and I am having a fascinating afternoon reading through it. From observations of my own dogs, I suspect there are many things at play in sniffing. Firstly, they do much more intensive sniffing of a strange dog, or one they have not met for a while - we tend to use the same walks several times a week, so the pee-mail theory of matching a dog up to the scent it has left behind makes a lot of sense (!) in this context. Secondly, in most European conuntires - and increasingly worldwide - a handshake is the formal greeting for people one does not know well, or (especially between men!) people one knows well, but on a formal basis. Once the greeting is less formal - between friends and family, for example - it progresses to two or more kisses on the cheek - or formalised air kisses. It would be very, very interesting to know at which point dogs shift from a concentration on sniffing each others' bums (highly informative, and reasonably safe), to sniffing/licking each others' faces (juvenile behaviour, and requiring a fair degree of confidence and trust). Interactions with cats, of course, are a whole new ball game - the sight of my young dogs freezing and almost wincing when the cats come to politely touch noses is a lesson to me not to assume they understand what my efforts at communication mean, either!

Thanks for Your Interest

Hi, Frances,

Thanks for your interest.

I think the more telling phenomena is that dogs who know each other quite well, even dogs who live together, will occasionally sniff one another. This indicates that the old idea that dogs sniff each other to garner information about strange dogs only, is flawed.

I agree that dogs can often tell the scent of a "friend" by their urine marks, what I don't agree with is the idea that the first dog left the mark to communicate anything. (See "Why Do Dogs Mark?")

Thanks again,

LCK

Crazy Idea

Last night we had the neighbor's dog over to play with our three dogs and all our dogs were chasing the visiting dog around and were either sniffing, or being sniffed the whole time. While we were sitting there supervising the dogs playing, I starting thinking that there could be more than a simple hand shake involved here. What if they are also smelling the butt and mouth so much so see what the dog has been eating? My husband thinks this sounds absolutely crazy, so I ended up looking it up on the internet, and I found a lot of butt sniffing blogs and articles, but I haven't really found what I am looking for yet... (maybe it is crazy haha) It's just an idea anyways, but I know how much dogs love food. Maybe one of the things they pick up from sniffing the butt, mouth, other poop, ect.... is what is in the other dog's diet. It could be a part of a survival instinct or something... if a dogs butt smells like meat and there's a food smell in his breath, maybe he is a good hunter or has food somewhere.... Maybe if there are a lot of dog poops around there must be a source of food around? I know my dogs are not hungry looking for food, I am just thinking that might be part of there instinct. They don't just smell sidewalks to see who has been there, if they find something while they are sniffing around that looks good to eat they eat it. A lot of what dogs do is geared towards food. Anyways, just a crazy theory I have. Nobody has the answers to everything, and unfortunately, nobody will ever know the exact reason why dogs do what they do, what they are thinking, and how they really feel, unless they start speaking human and come right out and tell us! haha :)

Why do dogs sniff

One of the riddles we've still to unlock about our canine friends is the actual extent and range of their sense of smell. We have theories but not actual hard comparisons of the range of a dog's sensory power in this area. In fact I think we still have an awful lot to discover in this area. Our dogs sniffing is probably the equivalent of what we would do when we undergo extensive medical tests. They'll know about health, genes, territory and a whole lot more just in one single sniff.

Dog constantly sniffing other dog

Hi,
I came across this forum and wondered if you could help with a problem. We have two dogs, brought together from two different households into a new shared home. My dog Max is a neutered, male rescued sprollie, 8 years old, who has been with us for 6 years and is settled, although he can be a little submissive to men still (he was poorly treated). My partner's dog is an un-neutered 8 year old British Bulldog, half the size of my dog, and the problem is that he tries to sniff Max's 'bits'constantly. It worries and upsets Max a lot, he tolerates it most of the time but occasionally snaps back and has bitten the other dog's ear and face. The bulldog will actively seek Max out every time they are in a room together and corner him. The only thing we can do is to have them in separate rooms. When they are out walking together it rarely happens, although the bulldog doesn't like Max to be in front of him on a pathway and will try to dominate him by veering Max off course if he tries to run past him. The sniffing situation is much worse since we have moved into a new home together (the only move the bulldog has ever experienced). Do you think the behaviour stems from some anxiety issues (it did happen before but to a lesser extent) and do you please have any advice about what we might do to address this?
Lisa

Sniffing, Dominance, etc.

Hi Lisa,

Thanks for your comments.

To me dominance and submission aren't what we've been taught, particularly when these words are (mis)applied to the behaviors of dogs.

I believe you're right in thinking that in your case the behaviors of both dogs stem from anxiety. These feelings are almost always exacerbated by any change in the household, particularly a move.

I don't like to give out training advice on this website. There are too many variables that one can't get into in the comments section. Please feel free to contact me directly at KelleyMethod@aol.com.

Thanks again,

LCK

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