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Why Sarah Palin Facinates (and Horrifies) Me

Whenever I get a surge of anger just thinking about someone, I know that my reaction is not all about them. I know there must be something in me that this person threatens and exhumes, perhaps from childhood- or perhaps from right now. So when I think of Sarah Palin and immediately get that visceral reaction, I know it's not just because she's a Republican. Read More

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Why Sarah Palin Fascinates (and Horrifies) Me

I'm disappointed Pepper. You do not have first hand knowledge of this woman yet feel compelled to comment about what's inside her head and what makes her tick. You are better than that.

I am not a fan of Sarah's nor am I a fan of Barack. Neither has a record worth consideration. Both are excellent speakers yet different. One appeals to the "upper class" while the other appeals to the "working class". The lower class rarely understands how they "used" by both parties. Barack and Sarah are differentiated by lifestyle, outlook and Alma Mater which seems to dictate their level of appeal to various segments of a purposefully divided country.

We are blinded by the book cover and refuse to look inside. American intelligence is in decline and taking this country with it. Many people don't even know what either party stood for---it's a popularity contest---a real live American Idol contest. Running for president takes a huge ego and narcissism goes hand in glove with same. It doesn't make them bad people but, in your piece, it seems to apply to one and not the other.

Hillary clearly has more substance than either presidential candidate and/or vice presidential candidate yet she is relegated to a diminished Secretary of State position where she can be "controlled". How special is that?

If you were honest with yourself I suspect that if Sarah ran on the democratic ticket she'd not only be VP, she'd be the darling of the media and many who feel obligated to comment on her negatively.

Dr. Schwartz, please focus on to what you know and NOT what you think you know. Enough said.

she s no different than the

she s no different than the majority. the difference is that she s in the public eye. perhaps ur appalled by her because she is an example of a typical woman in this country and its em arrassing to actually see how selfish we ve all become. it also makes one realize their role in the decline of a prosperous society. yeah, it s frightening.

Why Sarah Palin Fascinates (and Horrifies) Me

After reading your article, I wonder if I am not the real narcissist because neither Sarah Palin nor Barack Obama affects my life one way or the other. Maybe in a small sense my checkbook, but not my life.

And yet I am encouraged that even with without a doctorate, I can exercise self-control in deciding who will be the important people in my life (known family and friends) with those who may think they are important to me (unknown people such as politicians). I give my thoughts and emotions permission to decide.

But I just can’t help believe that there a lot worse people out in the world today than Sarah Palin. Anger is probably best used when trying to alleviate unfair pain and suffering for others than on people who don’t really make that much difference in your life.

Like Pat Buchanan said...

...Sarah Palin is not resented for what she has done, but for who she is.

She has shown up the Democrat "aristocracy" for the lying, blue-collar hating snobs they are. Palin's small town humble background, halfwit husband, slightly messed up family, are all characteristics which work to her advantage... she shops at Wal-Mart, she drives herself to work, she fishes, she hunts. She is, as Mark Steyn put it, not all-American, but hyper-American. The fact that Gov. Palin doesn't talk and act like a Washington insider works to her benefit.

The numerous and seemingly unending smears of Palin are the types of things the media does in authoritarian countries; it's interesting to see "liberals" doing it and supporting it.

I suspect that the rage and bitterness of Democrats with regards to Palin comes from the fact that in important respects Palin is a mirror image of their own candidate. She is as inexperienced, personable, charismatic, well spoken, and good looking, as their own guy. Obama is the first pure celebrity presidential candidate. He is a superior celebrity, superbly in control of himself, masterful at presentation, effortlessly detached, as the best celebrities are, from the controversies that swirl around him, not to mention his baby-face, crooning voice, and his billion-dollar grin. Obama's obsession with his multiracial background is the perfect embodiment of the narcissistic identity obsessions of our age.

"well spoken"

I can agree with some of your points except "well spoken". Yikes! Have you read her speech about leaving the governor's office? It is a complete mess in syntax, comprehensibility, and logic. She may be charismatic- but well spoken? No way.

Have you listened to Barack

Have you listened to Barack speak without his infamous teleprompters and prepared speeches? Not very impressive, I'm afraid.

You aren't making a diagnosis are you?

As a Ph.D. you should have been trained to be more careful with your words! It is one thing for someone without training to comment the way that you did but quite another for a person claiming to hold a doctoral degree. Shame on you, throwing around a loaded diagnostic term without either diagnostic knowledge of Palin and also likely without the professional qualifications to make such a diagnosis. If I knew you as a professional colleague I would have spoken with you privately about your ethical lapse. You should have known better than to use your platform as an expert in sociology to imply a severe psychological diagnosis of an enduring nature.

A retraction or correction is in order here.

Sarah Palin

Lighten up. I am not a clinical psychologist and of course this is not a diagnosis. I am using the term in it's common venacular- that is, a person who is self absorbed and appears not to care about anyone else's welfare but her own.

Thank you. Words are

Thank you. Words are powerful.

These Comments Demonstrate the Problem with Sarah Palin

Pepper, you took quite a pummeling on these comments -- which unfortunately proves the exact points you made in your article!

The vast majority of people see Sarah Palin for the narcissistic nightmare that she is -- as demonstrated by the fact that McCain handed Obama the presidency when he accepted Palin as his running mate. Although you and I would not have voted for McCain under any circumstances, many voters were on the fence, and Sarah Palin pushed them off it into Obama's camp.

But the deluded people who can't -- or won't, for some reason -- see her (and her ilk) clearly are a highly vocal minority. I'm sure Palin *does* covet a far more grandiose national profile -- what narcissist wouldn't? But like most narcissists, her ignominious end is hard-wired into her character.

Thankfully, she's her own worst enemy.

You are funny, Debbie. McCain

You are funny, Debbie. McCain was losing ground quickly until he picked Sarah Palin---go back and check.

It takes quite a bit of narcissism and a strong ego for anyone to strive for the presidency. Is it only a problem when the subject is NOT you choice for candidacy? No one is more imperious, egotistical, narcissistic and arrogant than Barack Obama yet it seems you don't think it diminishes his ability to be President.

Sarah is the most talked about, attacked and demeaned losing candidate for VP ever. Exactly why does she warrant continuing fear and obsession? Has any other losing VP candidate received so much post-election attention? Sarah appears to have made a lot of people insecure.

As an aside, Dr. Schwartz, it would be interesting to understand the psychology of why Gov. Palin created so much "buzz" and why she remains inside the heads of so many otherwise "well-educated" people.

She was a relatively unknown, plucked from obscurity by a losing team and spent a mere two months on the national scene. Insights gained from such a study could contain valuable insights for future politicians.

Pepper, I would like to ask

Pepper, I would like to ask you, does Obama get the same vitriolic response from you? You don't find him a narcissist? I think anyone in the political field HAS to have some of that trait, otherwise how effective would they be, in campaigning? I find it a bit of a contradiction that you demean her decision to further her career, despite her young family, and in the next sentence define yourself as a feminist. I just wonder if you have an upcoming article dealing per chance with the gall of Obama. He too, has small children. He too, left a senate seat, to pursue his further political ambitions. Is it different, because she is female, or is it because of her political leanings that you disagree with?

Whenever I hear Sarah Palin

Whenever I hear Sarah Palin speak of her family values, I wonder what they are. Because Sarah needs to clean up the mess in her own dysfunctional family before she attempts to preach family values to others. Sarah and no one else put her family in the media spotlight. No one but Sarah tried to legitimize Bristol's pregnancy by putting Levy Johnston the boyfriend/fiance in the spotlight. A more uncomfortable scenario of a pregnant Bristol and Levy hand in hand, is difficult to imagine. Sarah is now reaping the whirlwind of her own bad decisions.

Wow

@TJL wrote "You do not have first hand knowledge of this woman yet feel compelled to comment"

-- I'm sorry, but you might not have access to the Internet or something... Palin's exploits (including her almost 100% ability to throw prior partners under the bus) are well documented and the list is long. Most recent example: Palin claimed victim because women weren't supporting her (as a woman) running for office... well, her "women should support women" rehtoric didn't work in NY-23 did it? She was allowed to exercise her "independent" thoughts and opinions, but when any other women finds Palin unacceptable they're demonized as not supporting a woman running for office and/or jealous and/or "afraid" of her.

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Why is it Obama has to be dragged in each time Palin is mentioned? Why do so many people insist on making it a Palin vs Obama thing? Why can't people discuss Palin on her own merits (or lack there of)?

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I'm a Christian conservative and base my opinion on Palin in part based on her claims of being a Christian. Believe it or not, the Bible tells us to hold our brothers and sisters in Christ accountable. (And unlike you've seen in public, the Bible does NOT tell us to hold non-believers accountable because they are non-believers)

It is beyond depressing to find a person who has similar values on a few key points is so devoid of integrity and accountability. Each time she posts to Facebook, she gives Christianity another black eye.

Now, had she taken that same lack of integrity and lack of accountability and wrapped it in a pro-choice athiest package, I admit it would be the "norm" and I wouldn't care about her. But you have to admit, had she not claimed Christianity she would not have the fan base she currently enjoys because (unfortunately) they fail to compare her actions to the Bible and take her at her word.

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I find Palin to be a sad figure. Her need for an adoring fan base has made her a bright shiny trinket that key groups use to shake when they want money (look at her facebook pages, all month every entry solicits donations to some group). She's now become a puppet for these groups who are responsible for her continued national presence (do you really think she sold so many books to individuals? No, these groups bought them by the truck load and are now giving them away as freebies when you subscribe to their rhetoric)... She's unable to go on any but the most controlled public appearances... it will be interesting to see how they manage to "protect" her from the public at large during her book tour... will she be tucked away in a side room where those seeking signatures will be admitted one at a time, only after being frisked for recording devices?

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Finally, for those who call her a "victim", remember that it was she who hired a publicist two years ago in her bid for the national stage. She wasn't "plucked from obscurity", she simply got her money's worth from the publicist who positioned her under the nose of the Republican establishment. If there is any victim in this, it is the children who have been dangled out like fresh meat then used to cry foul.

All that glitters is not gold

After following Palin, watching her interactions with family, and reading comments of adult children of people with personality disorders, & reading the qualifiers for narcissistic personality disorder (N.P.D.), the case could be made for N.P.D., w/ other personality disorder components.
She only gives a damn about herself. Who would drag a special needs child around and expose the child to crowds in flu seson as she did on her recent book tour? There is a picture of the child hatless, shoeless, and without socks outside in Roanoke, Virginia at time of day when temperature was 40 degrees. This child is seen wearing its special glasses in only a few of the tour pictures.
One can only hope that Palin is in it right up to the brink of when it would be time to declare candidacy, then quits. She is devious enough to know how to collect the money from her followers, and via SarahPAC, "PIE SKY", and her Alaska Fund Trust. She is too damn lazy to actually do the work required and knows she won't be able to cover up her laziness when closely scrutinized. After all, it's not like it was in Alaska, when she could get rid of staff who could blab about her laziness or her "gray area" financial and political dealings.

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Pepper Schwartz is Professor of Sociology at the University of Washington in Seattle.

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