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The last three of the Top 10 myths about single people include the misguided beliefs that single people don't have a life and don't have anyone; that they will grow old alone and die alone; and that the advantaging of married people in more than 1,000 ways counts as family values rather than singlism. Read More

















Social Pressure
I love this series of posts. There's so much social pressure to conform to the social norm of being married with kids and the other side rarely gets a voice. But I have to question some of your research methods. As far as you saying 92% of people claim to be healthy - that couldn't possibly be accurate. For starters, there's an obesity epidemic even among children today and diabetes, etc, etc, etc, go along with that. It's just that what used to be bad health has become normal in most people's minds these days and people are often in denial. Check out other scary health statistics and look at the obesity all around you.
Secondly, God bless single mothers for the often difficult job they have, but most of the people who are the lowest functioning in society are in fact from broken homes. Prison statistics are not hard to check out. Just like two legs are better than one, two loving parents are too, for financial and attention reasons. I think your research methods are rather superficial and inaccurate in many areas, but I appreciate the basic message that a marriage certificate is irrelevant to happiness.
Data
You can find the data and references in "Singled Out"
Loving is the key word
Two loving parents are important - however, just because someone is a parent does not mean they are loving. Do stats on families with two parents determine first if the parents being studied are loving or abusive? How would they know?
I agree- self-reports of
I agree- self-reports of health are hardly to be trusted. 92% of single people may think they are healthy and god bless them for thinking that but that does not mean their self-reports are accurate.
Also regarding the statement that married people are less involved with family and more focused on each other than single people-it's interesting how Bella compares the time that singles spend with their parents to the time married people spend with their parents to come to the conclusion that, and I quote "So while married couples are focused primarily on each other, single people are the ones who are holding together families and communities." Umm...I guess if you are defining "family" by "parents." Why not compare and contrast the amount of time marrieds versus singles spend on family and community, as defined by the sum of children, parents, siblings, relatives, and friends and then come to a conclusion? Why privilege one definition of family (parents and siblings) over another? Are children not family?
As for delinquent kids, I agree that Bella could actually examine evidence from prison statistics and court statistics to analyze the family backgrounds of those kids, instead of pointing to a statistic on substance abuse only. If the evidence is there that kids of single parents are really better off or equally well off as those of coupled parents, why not list that evidence right here on this blog??
And this is simply anecdotal, but having worked with kids with conduct/behavioral problems and often legal problems stemming from those, I haven't yet met a kid with such issues who came from a stable family background (ie, two parents who had been together throughout the kid's childhood, whether with a marriage certificate or not).
Bella's research methods are superficial and selective...just like a traditional literature review tends to be. You can support your point with just the literature that supports it, while conveniently leaving out the rest, or examining only certain areas of the topic at hand, which happen to have literature that supports your point. It's no coincidence that her research is published in the form of a pop psychology book instead of an actual peer-reviewed psychology journal-it just would not hold up under the scrutiny of her peers in academic psychology...and that has nothing to do with "singlism."
Read the book first
She's a very thorough researcher and explains it all in her book, "Singled Out." Hardly superficial and selective at all.
I've already read the book my
I've already read the book my dear. And I do think her research methods are superficial and selective...
A few quick points.
1. Yes, self-reported data can be considered questionable. But that is true for both married and for single people. I wonder why you're questioning just the data for single people.
2. I believe Bella did compare the time both singles are marrieds spent on community endeavors, relatives, friends, etc, and found that singles tend to spend more time on such relationships.
3. If you're concerned with superficial data, I'm wondering why you referred to some anecdotal experiences of your own.
4. You may have read the book, but did you read the bibliography? The articles Bella quoted were published in peer-reviewed journals. And here are some of her own research on singles:
DePaulo, B. M., & Morris, W. L. (2005). Singles in society and in science. Psychological Inquiry, 16, 57-83.
DePaulo, B. M., & Morris, W. L. (2005). Should singles and the scholars who study them make their mark or stay in their place? Psychological Inquiry, 16, 142-149.
Morris, W. L., Sinclair, S., & DePaulo, B. M. (2007). No shelter for singles: The perceived legitimacy of marital status discrimination. Group Processes and Intergroup Relations, 10, 457-470.
DePaulo, B. M., & Morris, W. L. (2006). The unrecognized stereotyping and discrimination against people who are single. Current Directions in Psychological Science, 15, 251-254.
Morris, W. L., DePaulo, B. M., Hertel, J., & Taylor, L. C. (2008). Singlism – another problem that has no name: Prejudice, stereotypes, and discrimination against singles. In M. A. Morrison & T. G. Morrison (Eds.), The psychology of modern prejudice (pp. 165-194). New York: Nova Science Publishers.
Schutz, A., Hertel, J., DePaulo, B. M., Morris, W. L., & Stucke, T. S. (2007). She’s single, so what? How are singles perceived compared with people who are in romantic relationships? Zeitschrift fur Familienforschung (Journal of Family Research), 19, 139-158.
Morris, W. L., and DePaulo, B. M. (2009) Singlehood. In H. Reis & S. Sprecher (Eds.), Encyclopedia of Human Relationships. Thousand Oaks, CA: Sage
5. As for the argument that the data is biased...
Well duh!
This isn't a journal club; we're more of an advocacy group for single people. It is our stated position that single people are NOT inferior to married people, our raison d'tre. Of course we're going to present data that supports our position. Would you expect a Christian group to present evidence that Christians have higher rates of pornography use? Or a gay group to present evidence that gays abuse drugs at higher rates? Of course not! Just like any other group, we're trying to advance a cause based upon our moral position.
Reply
A few quick points in response:
1. No, I question the data for both married people and single people. Self-reports are not valid in either case.
2. Re: "I believe Bella did compare the time both singles are marrieds spent on community endeavors, relatives, friends, etc, and found that singles tend to spend more time on such relationships." Regardless of what you believe, no, she didn't. Why don't you refer back to her original post and see that for yourself instead of "believing?"
3. The anecdotal data I cited was to give background as to why I would require a bit more evidence on how the children of single parents are well off compared with those of coupled parents, something a bit more comprehensive than the statistic on substance abuse...Do you have those statistics?? Please share if you do......
When I say superficial, I was referring to her research methods. And as you agreed, her research is biased. Can we agree then that that is superficial? Research intended to promote a cause, with a specific point in mind, is going to be superficial. Because it is not aiming to find out truth, it is aiming to support its point...
4. Are these articles mostly data-based or merely descriptive? Are these journals in fact peer-reviewed?? I'm sure since you must have read these articles, you can at least answer these two questions....
5. I know you are trying to advance a cause based on your moral position...at least present it as that, instead of "Here is the unadulterated and unbiased truth, because I'm a social scientist who does RESEARCH!"
Studies
There wouldn't be hordes of books and studies on "How to land a mate", "how to keep a mate", and "how great it is to have a mate" if marriage was really that magical solution to the world's problems that some people think it is.
A final reply to your reply
1. Fine
2. In her book she goes into detail regarding the study by Stephen Nock.
3. Nope, just wanted to point out an odd inconsistency. I'm not sure what you mean by "her research methods". Do you mean the research studies she conducted? Or are you referring to her book? Haven't read the former. As to the latter...as you yourself said, it's a pop psychology book. It's intended for the masses, not a scientific audience, so of course it's going to be a superficial survey.
4. See above. And no need to be so snippy about it. Notice that I haven't questioned your claim that you've read her book.
5. I don't recall Bella every having claimed to be either biased or unbiased.
One final note...I notice that you've talked a lot about Bella and her research, but very little about singles. Which is odd, considering that the purpose of this blog is to discuss singles issues, not Bella DePaulo and her research. Which makes me wonder if you're not really interested in singles issues, if you're just looking to argue for argument's sake.
If your moral position is
If your moral position is ever going to gain ground, unfortunately it will have to be accepted by the mainstream. Not by fringe journals on psychological theory with questionable publishing/peer-review practices. I would like to know...has the "leading" researcher on singles published any research that would be accepted for publication in any of the publications for example of the American Psychological Association, such as the American Psychologist, Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, Journal of Experimental Psychology, etc etc or any similarly rigorous academic psychology journal? It's easy to get published in fringe journals in any field. If not, then the leading researchers have some work to do. This sort of weak "research" would be torn to shreds by people for whom research is their bread and butter...
I'm checking out these
I'm checking out these references you listed, and so far....
number (1) is descriptive
(2) is merely the authors' reponse to letters to the editor re: article 1
I looked up Psychological inquiry and found this:
Psychological Inquiry is an international forum for the discussion of theory and meta-theory. The journal strives to publish articles that represent broad, provocative, and debatable theoretical ideas primarily in the areas of social psychology and personality. We discourage submission of purely empirical, applied, or review articles. Each issue typically includes a target article followed by peer commentaries and a response from the target author. Manuscripts for the target articles can be invited or submitted. Manuscripts for the commentaries are always invited. Authors for the commentaries are chosen by the editors with input from the target authors.
Peer Review Policy: All review papers in this journal have undergone editorial screening and peer review.
So it's a theoretical journal that discourages the submission of empirical, applied, or review articles, the very ones which would have undergone peer review....HMMM...
I'm unimpressed enough by my forays into the first two references you listed that I am going to stop wasting my time looking into the rest of them.
Have fun with your selective research...I'm sure it will be well-received by those who already agree with you, but will remain questionable to the rest...
Um, do you understand the
Um, do you understand the difference between theoretical research and empirical research? Both are valid enquiry methods and both undergo peer review in peer-reviewed journals, which this is.
Um, theoretical research is
Um, theoretical research is an oxymoron...
Before you get huffy and
Before you get huffy and start calling me a troll, let me add that like Petra, I too appreciate the basic message that a marriage certificate is irrelevant to happiness. But what intrigues me is that the research Bella has presented is exactly like the research of the "other side"-- it's superficial and selective. And she jumps to conclusions from this superficial and selective research, that cannot be made from the research she's presented. How exactly then, is she supporting your moral position? Bad research does not disprove bad research. Good research disproves bad research. (and here, by bad research I mean the bad research by those who promote their moral position of favoring couplehood) All the more reason that singles need to get actual data-based research done to prove their points...instead of rehashing tired theories and selected studies...
Huffy, my dear
I'm confused. First you say the research that "Bella has presented" is superficial and selective. It sounds like you're talking about the posting. So we say read the book; she's referring back to that. You say you read the book and you still find her research superficial and selective. (I don't agree at all with that.) Now it sounds like you're talking about the posting again.
I did find that Bella's book presented actual data-based research that proves her point. Her theories are hardly tired--they're quite new and revolutionary, and she seems to be if not the only one doing this kind of extensive research into singles, the top researcher in the field of study. Along those lines, what "studies" are there to "select" from that you know of?
In other words, what specifically are you criticizing?
No, my dear
Unlike you, I did not find that Bella's book presented actual data-based research that proves her point. Psychological theory does not prove anything...psychological research does. But I guess one would need an actual background in research to judge research...do you have one? If not, I can see how you are so impressionable...
I do work in research
Not scientific research, however. I'm a highly compensated, well-respected editor with 20 years of experience under my belt.
What are the credentials behind your criticisms and ad hominem attacks?
An editor of another blog on
An editor of another blog on singles???
If you haven't worked in social science or scientific research, what exactly in your job as editor of whatever it is makes you a great judge of research?
I'd share my credentials but I don't want too much publicity, unlike yourself...
You're a social media
You're a social media consultant and singles blogger.. Funny...you say you do research.... yeah and I'm George Clooney.
http://www.simonegrant.com/
Economic research, actually.
Economic research, actually. So, not sure what those other comments are about--the social blogging and the fame seeking. Very weird. Not sure who Simone Grant is. Not me.
So, still waiting for your credentials.
To be more specific for you,
To be more specific for you, what I am criticizing is her research methods, her jumping to conclusions based on research that doesn't actually support her conclusions, her selection of statistics that support her point while omitting those that don't, instead of doing a thorough, systematic review of all the evidence, her lack of original, data-based research to support her point, her countering of poor research methods with more poor research methods--in her blog posts, and in her book Singled Out. You don't have to agree with me, and I don't have to agree with you--and thank god for that!
This I think is where we part ways in thinking
You see, I think of this as a debate between moral and philosophical points, of worldviews. Things which cannot be proven. The science is nice, but in the end it cannot answer questions like "Is it better to be single or married?" That can only be answered by examining one's values, not by examining research.
That's fine, we can disagree.
That's fine, we can disagree.
Wow, I may/may not agree with
Wow, I may/may not agree with all that you stated, but I just wanted to acknowledge how articulate you did state your thoughts. Thank you.
I wish that I had read this
I wish that I had read this 10 years ago. I got married to stop the myths and have been miserable every since.
I'm curious why "Anonymous"
I'm curious why "Anonymous" is so bothered by the prospect that single people may be just as happy, healthy and vibrant as married ones? Why do you care so much? If you're married and happy, GREAT! What does that have to do at all with people who are single and happy? Yikes! Chill. There's more than one road to happiness and it's different for each of us...
social pressure
I'm not certain exactly what you mean by "lowest functioning". However I and all 6 of my siblings were raised by a single mother, and every last one of us graduated from college. I'm not sure where that rates on the "functioning" scale, but I think she did a bang up job. And what is even more surprising, almost ALL of the children in our neighborhood were raised by a single parent and I haven't heard about ANY of them getting into trouble. Neighborhood stats arent' all that hard to check out either, it's just that no one goes into these neighborhoods, unless they work for the Census Bureau. All of these people went on to be productive members of society, so I'm not sure what you're saying.
As someone who works not only
As someone who works not only in academia but also in The Real World (in several inner-city ERs), I can tell you that "single parents" are not a homogenous group. When academics think of single parents they may be thinking of their well-educated cousin who got divorced after having children. However, by numbers I believe low-income, not-well-educated African-American women are overrepresented in this group. There is a matriarchal culture in U.S. inner cities- young women have kids, raise them with the help of their own mother and sometimes grandmother, and don't seem to really expect to marry, which I believe is well-reflected in the marriage statistics by race. These women and their children have a host of challenges unrelated to them being unmarried, and often their children have plenty of loving adults and parental figures in their lives; if more of them end up in prison it likely has more to do with what they were up against from the beginning. If there are studies showing that the children of well-educated, middle-income single mothers have worse outcomes, please let me know about them.
As someone who works not only
As someone who works not only in academia but also in The Real World (in several inner-city ERs), I can tell you that "single parents" are not a homogenous group. When academics think of single parents they may be thinking of their well-educated cousin who got divorced after having children. However, by numbers I believe low-income, not-well-educated African-American women are overrepresented in this group. There is a matriarchal culture in U.S. inner cities- young women have kids, raise them with the help of their own mother and sometimes grandmother, and don't seem to really expect to marry, which I believe is well-reflected in the marriage statistics by race. These women and their children have a host of challenges unrelated to them being unmarried, and often their children have plenty of loving adults and parental figures in their lives; if more of them end up in prison it likely has more to do with what they were up against from the beginning. If there are studies showing that the children of well-educated, middle-income single mothers have worse outcomes, please let me know about them.
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