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Comments on "Give a Man a Fish..."

Give a Man a Fish...

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For a moment there i thought

For a moment there i thought i could grasp the meaning of this article. However, once i go further down the lines, i got lost.

There are some part of me that understand the moral behind the story but the more opinions and ideas you throw out there the move difficult it is to absorb.

I'm still trying to find a way to transform an abundant amount of laborious informations into a meaningful yet simple phrase like
"Give a man a fish, and feed him for a day. Teach him to fish, and feed him for life."

Maybe i just forget so easily that all the things i've learn i have to relearn in order to learn it.
Oh...yea i remember now... that's called "slow". Slow i am.

Well, I Get It

Jane should not give the reigns of her life over to another party. Especially not her therapist.

If you gave her advice on one aspect of her life--her relationship--when the problems arising in her relationship life could also be inhibiting other aspects of her life, she may not discover how her distrust plays a role in her interpersonal skills, nor will she learn how to overcome this dilemma, and neither will she discover how she came to feel she needs to react in this way in the first place.

It's really easy to give uninformed advice. It's pretty detrimental to take it.

As her therapist, you can't ethically endanger her psyche by letting her take the easy way out rather than helping her to resolve life's difficulties through empowerment rather than elopement.

Empowerment vs. Elopement

Well stated. Advice would deprive us of an opportunity for greater understanding. Thanks for your comment!

I agree with your article

I agree with your article whole heartedly in the respect that many therapists I have come in contact with in the past never thought to give me tools (ie. the fishing rod!) to get me through my hardships. my situations were not entirely unique either and I found it unsettling that I was getting answers but ultimately getting no where.

However, being in a healthy and productive therapy setting today, I feel that 'advice' or coaching leading to what seems to be an unsolvable answer can still be beneficial to clients.

I feel that your article is too absolute, thought you did say the rule was situational.
But is advice not also a tool in telling someone what a safe outcome could be? By using your example, couldn't you give Jane advice consisting of pros and cons? Like, "you could tell him and this could be the end result.." "or you shouldn't tell him because" and then use her issue as a great example she could reference in the future?

Especially with an example like this, (mistrust), a topic of reoccurring habits, couldn't you just watch her make the same mistakes over, as people tend to be repetitious?

I'm certainly not suggesting becoming a yes man and answering each problem as a machine would. But instead, do you think it's possible to hold a healthy balance between tools, coaching AND advice?

But then again, it all depends on the skills and awareness of the therapist, I guess.

Good points

Thank you for your comment, Carolyn. I think we're on the same page. Yes, in the situation with Jane, I would certainly be open to discussing the pros and cons, consequences and potential red flags of her situation. I would want to stop short of telling her "I think you should do this...", however, as this takes the responsibility of the decision from her (which would disempower her for the above-mentioned reasons). There is also a matter of therapeutic style worth noting - some therapists are very comfortable with the idea of coaching, which certainly involves more advice than traditional therapy. What matters most is that the client and therapist are a good fit, which seems to be the case for you! Thanks again. - R

So what do you do when the

So what do you do when the person has nobody in their life they can ask such questions to and *get* advice? No friends, no family they can trust, no number they can call. Would advice be warranted then, when you're their only human contact other than strangers on the street?

This is not a hypothetical, mind you. Sometimes, a patient doesn't even know what a fish *is*.

Still ambigious

I understand the whole deal about fishing rod and not the fish for the day. But it is still a case of the patient asking for straight forward advice which the physchologists avoids during the whole session he is being paid for and answers more vague than a common physchic.

Personally i respect the science of phychology, I find it caries more responsibility than any other doctrate available but it still lingers on a trail and error phase as quite fabulously put by Emerson M. Pugh:“If the human brain were so simple that we could understand it, we would be so simple that we couldn't.”

I deeply adore the nature of physchology but i hope to obtain my agree and possibly even start a career where you can not only let people learn about themselves "the rod" but also more about the fish they can catch for the day, and days to come without becoming a dominating figure in the patients lives.

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