Some reasons to think twice about memories of childhood sexual abuse. Read More
This sort of attitude why I tell my clients to not tell mds about their life. I suggest victims find a compassionate therapist and leave mds to their pill pushing.
It seems you are suggesting that the only types of sexual abuse that are impactful are acts as traumatic and horrific as gang rape or rape/incest. Considering your credentials, I would expect you to recognize that the impact experienced by each victim is not in direct relationship to the frequency or the severity of the act. Why would you cast doubt on this victim's story or minimize her account of the impact this event has had on her life?
You write: "Mr. Kristof in his column makes a pro-forma comment about someone being presumed innocent; but presumably he would not have published this column if he did not believe the account of Ms. Farrow, whom he knows personally."
Well, what about you? Do you realise that you just spent an entire article giving out reason after reason after yet another reason why we shouldn't believe Ms. Farrow? Using the reasoning you gave above, the only conclusion is that presumably, you would not have published this article if you did not disbelieve her.
Mr. Kristof only allowed a personal acquaintance who was very publicly at the heart of a child abuse case to use his column to publish her first public account of the whole affair. You, on the other hand, jumped to discredit the testimony of someone you have never met, for no reason whatsoever. Of the two, I find your behaviour far more disgusting.
this is a worthwhile companion piece to the Nicholas Kristof editorial: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/01/27/the-woody-allen-allegat...
As a child in the 70's, I was being sexually abused by a neighbor who was the father of a friend. I remember that whenever I would see a movie with Woody Allen I would get sick to me stomach, sometimes even throwing up. I never knew why. I've never been able to bring myself to watch any of his movies, no matter how much the critics would rave about him.
After reading the accounts of his adopted daughter, my gut feeling tells me to believe her. I agree that sometimes things are made up or simply remembered incorrectly.
I've been married to a sex addict for 26 years, who spares no expense for his addiction and is turned on by young girls. I have protected him all this time and can't do it anymore. He disgusts me. My only wish is that he will die a slow, painful death, full of open and oozing sores, and the one left to comfort him will be Woody Allen.
Sometimes you just need to trust that gut instinct.
As someone who has ALWAYS remembered what my step father did to me as a child, I can't help being a wee bit put out with your take on this subject.
Here's what I'd like to see happen; something that helps alleviate the need for any "did this happen?" crap.
We need to educate parents and children so that we create an environment where "this will be our little secret" and "don't tell anyone" have no place to thrive.
Children need to be taught, in age appropriate ways, very young in life, that these behaviors are unacceptable and that it is not their fault and that it is OK to tell someone.
And adults need to create an environment where a child feels safe in the knowledge that their story will be believed and acted upon.
Even 'minor' sexual abuse leaves an unfortunate legacy, we need to stop trying to figure out if accusations are true and figure out how to give children a voice.
Your article makes a mis-statement. Soon-Yi Previn was never the step-daughter of Woody Allen. She was the adopted daughter of Mia Farrow and Andre Previn. She was never under Allen's parental jurisdiction nor lived in the same household as Woody Allen.
Thanks. I've been trying to make sense out of some of the responses I've been reading. One person said I should stop spending too much time trying to figure out the truth of what actually happens in these situations. Another said "Her gut feeling tells her to believe" the account of abuse. It seems that a search for truth is the same thing in their mind as being dismissive of someone's legitimate complaints of being abused. Many people were obviously angry at me.
Start with the unmistakable truth that some of these accounts of child abuse are false and others are true. Anyone who works with these children knows this is a fact. Is there no advantage in the treatment of the child in being able to establish the truth? Would there not be a difference in treatment depending on whether the story was fabricated or whether it was true?
I am more concerned about how these situations are handled than whether or not Woody Allen was guilty of what he was accused of.
There is also, of course, the matter of justice; but I am primarily interested in the treatment of the child.
You say you are "primarily interested in the treatment of the child." But there is no more child to be treated in this case. Dylan is an adult. So what child are you talking about?
If you meant to write an article about the difficulty of determining the truth in child abuse claim cases IN GENERAL, then you should not have written an article which is SPECIFICALLY about the Farrow/Allen case. You wrote an article about Dylan Farrow, who is no longer a child, so you can't claim you only meant to discuss child abuse claims in general.
You do, however, bring up an interesting point: "Is there no advantage in the treatment of the child in being able to establish the truth? Would there not be a difference in treatment depending on whether the story was fabricated or whether it was true?"
Indeed. Now it seems to me that there are only three possibilities (I'll use the Allen/Farrow case as example, but it applies generally):
1. Allen abused Dylan;
2. Someone else abused Dylan;
3. Nobody sexually abused Dylan but something or someone made her claim so.
What should the consequences be in each case?
1. Allen is condemned;
2. Whoever else abused Dylan is found, tried and jailed;
3. Whoever or whatever disturbed Dylan so profoundly is taken care of.
What did happen? ... Nothing.
Was anyone tried for abusing her? No.
Was anything changed in her environment? No. In particular, if people thought that her mother was the one who made her claim the abuse, then why was Dylan left with such a psychologically abusive mother?
So what I see is that, as usual, the responsibility for everything was dumped onto the child. Only she was treated, as though she were the only dysfunctional person in that mess.
It's ALWAYS the same thing: only the child gets punished. Only the child gets told, explicitely or implicitely, that there is something wrong with him or her. Only the child gets to shoulder the weight of something which was created by adults.
So tell me: what's the POINT of figuring out the truth, if nobody is going to act on it? What's the point of treating the child, if s/he's the only one who gets treated? In fact, HOW can you even treat a child to get better, if you don't first remove from his or her environment the person who caused him or her to feel bad in the first place?
So, all this fake concern for the children? Yeah, I don't buy it.
There are two different situations in which I run into issues of possible child abuse: The first is when the child is young and dealing with such abuse. The second is when a mature person (almost always a woman in my experience) suddenly announces to her family that she was abused as a child by a particular family member. In the first case, I often have to struggle to convince one parent that the other parent is endangering the child.Obvious child abuse is often overlooked for various reasons. Often, as I indicated in my blog, an accusation of child abuse(false) is often made in the wake of an acrimonious divorce. Usually, then, I might be called by a judge to vouch for the accused parent when it is time to end supervised visits with the child. (The judge will always err on the side of protecting the child and will require supervised visits.)
I agree that the child is always the one who pays the price in these situations. As far as I can judge both Woody Allen and Mia Farrow agree about that. Neither seems to blame Dylan.
I chose to use the example of the Allen-Farrow case,for the same reason you do-- to illustrate some of the ambiguities of these situations. I mention them in particular because of the currency of their dispute.
The second situation I described above is not as uncommon as one might think. A disturbed woman suddenly remembers specific childhood abuse while in psychotherapy (some of it fanciful, even farcical) and tears apart a family, almost all of whom think she is making up the story. Once again, the woman is the one who pays the highest price. Treatment then is complicated and may include family counseling. Often the situation is irretrievable.
You say nothing can be done while the child is with a parent who may have abused her one way or the other. I don't agree. Psychiatrists are often charged with helping to treat children who are assaulted, sexually and otherwise, without the alternative of removing the child from the family. And,of course--I would think this goes without saying--it is important to know what is actually going on--whether or not certain things are happening.
I am not sure of the details of the Farrow--Allen dispute, but I have heard that there was no physical evidence of an assault. The professionals (psychiatrists) who were called in in consultation saw no evidence for such an assault. I think it might have been helpful if psychological treatment could have been instituted at that point in order to prevent her growing up embittered and also prevent further damage to the family. Perhaps there was such treatment. If there was, it was evidently unsuccessful.
Well said. Thank you for an insightful and thoughtful essay.
Winning Your Case Depends On You
By Joseph Goldberg, Consultant
Anyone fighting over child custody, visitation
rights or, decision making as a non-custodial
parent should listen closely, because there are
not a lot of professionals that give advise to
lawyers in quite the way that I do.
In high conflict divorce and separation cases,
if a parent makes a false allegation of abuse
or destabilizes a child's trust in the other
parent or exposes the child to adult information
or badmouths the other parent to the child or
interferes with visit-
ation or blocks a child from telephone access
or uses a sibling to interfere with the other
parents authority, then this parent is program-
ming the child with parental alienation.
If you haven't heard about parental alienation,
you have a lot to learn. I would recommend
you google: parental alienation education.
For others that know about it and continue to
litigate and re-litigate this issue without
success, let me explain why things aren't get-
This is going to sound self-serving but it
doesn't make it any less true.
# 1 reason why things are not getting better:
You depend on a lawyer that's not getting any
input from an expert in parental alienation, or
the situation is worse you're acting pro per. I
want you to know there's a far better solution
but it requires making a crucial decision.
A. decision to hire a consultant.
When you hire a consultant, they can tell you,
“what is parental alienation” and “ what isn't
parental alienation. “ Unless you don't really
care, and if you don't care, you're only hold-
ing yourself back. Is that fair to you ?
Judges are not interested in two parents that
are totally at opposite ends in their parenting
style and polarized. That won't help any
parent-child relational problem. Judges in this
scenario will tune you out and look to appoint
some type of professional to give them guid-
ance i.e., a lawyer for the child, a mediator, a
parenting co -ordinator, a child therapist, a
custody evaluator, a supervisor of visitation, a
family therapist or a judge could decide to
empower a child to choose whether or not to
see or communicate with a parent they reject.
Many parents cannot afford a lawyer because
they believe that it will cost more than they can
afford. Sadly that is not always true because
they may have money but they're just not sure
how far that money can go. You need a
consultant to answer that concern.. In this
situation a parent can hire a consultant to select
a lawyer to work with them in an unbundled
legal services agreement.
When this happens two things start to change.
The first thing to change is that you now have a
lawyer and the other thing to change is that you
now have the best lawyer you could ever hope
to find. Why ? Because your consultant gives
the lawyer the input he or she needs to win
your case. I've been involved in many cases of
David versus Goliath, and I've seen the lawyer
with the $1,000. hourly rate lose. Money doesn't
win in court, the better argument does.
A competent lawyer becomes a very good law-
yer because of the input he or she receives
from the consultant. Stop looking for parental
alienation lawyers and focus on finding a
consultant available to help.
By the way, I define a win as an intervention
that restores and repairs the bond between the
alienated child and the rejected parent. A win
is not defined by getting sole custody or get -
ting 50/50 time sharing.
Still wondering why you need a consultant ?
Lawyers are not going to admit their short-
comings because if they did you would be look-
ing for a better lawyer. So they won't admit
that in your particular case they haven't got a
clue where to begin.
A lawyer will not spend the time or bill you for
the time it takes to identify the cause of the
ruptured relationships within your family. There
are only two ways to get to that answer; a full
psychological evaluation of all the members of
the family, or hire a consultant with an expertise
in parental child relational problems. The later is
less costly, and provides voluminous additional
Did your lawyer screw the pooch in selecting a
mental health professional to begin counseling
for your child and or for your family ? Did your
lawyer come to some backdoor agreement with
the opposing counsel to select a mental health
professional without you knowing who they are
or even why they were agreed to ?
Are you stuck in a situation where a mental
health professional is actually making things
worse,not better ?
If that sounds like your situation then of course
you need to hire a consultant, because if you
don't, things will change again, your parent-
child relationship is going to get much worse
and that is not even the worst part, the worst
part is that your child won't be getting the treat-
ment they need for themselves. Can you turn
your back on your child, and give up knowing
Please call a consultant before you do.
Cases often have mental health professionals
with the best of intentions practicing outside
their areas of expertise, it's unethical, it's un-
professional, but getting them to step aside so
a competent practitioner can take their place is
not going to happen hiring a consultant.
Trust me when I say that if this is your reality
today, you're in the quicksand and I'm the one
trying to throw you the rope.
Many times a parent will ask me during a
consultation if I will talk to their lawyer before
they hire me and I say no. Lawyers do not
understand what I do, and cannot recommend
someone that provides a service they're not
that familiar with and why should they ?
I will tell you this much, after I have read the
case files I do talk to their lawyers and as soon
as they hear my strategy in the case they're
grateful for my involvement.
That is why your case depends on you. Nobody
can tell you if its smart to hire a consultant but
I also know when a parent calls for a consult-
tion just to get a little free advice. Often times
a parent pretends to be a parent of an alien-
ated child and they aren't, they just want a few
tips or an advantage over the other parent,
some have been accused of alienation and want
to know what to expect.
It's not that different when a lawyer tells an
alienating parent they can't help them to seize
custody unless they can get some proof that the
other parent is a really bad parent or proof that
the child is in fear of the other parent, even if it'
might be totally untrue.
The truth is that parents are falsely accused of
parental alienation just the same as parents are
falsely accused of child abuse. I have the good
fortune of helping parents on both sides of this
issue. When you're accused of alienation you
need a consultant to rule it in or to rule it out.
Taking a chance without a consultant is a sure
bet that you'll get a poor outcome in court, it's
all up to you.
Nobody can guarantee that you will win your
case, but let me put it this way, your best option
is to hire that consultant. Share this article.
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Fredric Neuman, M.D. is the Director of the Anxiety and Phobia Center at White Plains Hospital.
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