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Michele Weiner-Davis, MSW, is the Director of The Divorce Busting Center in Boulder, Colorado and Woodstock, Illinois and founder of divorcebusting.com. See full bio

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Dang, if my husband looked

Dang, if my husband looked like the guy in the picture and he wouldn't sleep with me I'd be miffed too. :P He should at least allow her to lick that stomach on a regular basis.

I'm not married, but my long term partner has shut down sexually. Our relationship is open and we've got a mutual friend I can turn to when I need some. My partner doesn't object to this as long as it doesn't interfere with plans we had to spend time together.

So I'm not starved, and I don't feel like he's emotionally or physically unavailabe - he just doesn't wanna get jiggy anymore. He doesn't refuse to talk about it, but can't really say why.

And no actually, his machinery is working as well as it always did.

My husband and I are both

My husband and I are both forty and he rarely wants to have sex. If I never initiated sex I beleve we would only do it 1-2 times a month. I would prefer 2-3 a week. But I wanted to speak about the asking for sex. It is demoralizing to have to ask sex constantly. Sometimes it makes me feel like crap and instead of having to deal with the rejection it is easier just to satisfy myself.

iam a very fit 51 , wife is

iam a very fit 51 , wife is old 55, told me after we got married, she didnt need sex, yet wants it,myself iam bored with her thinking, not talking, now i can understand why her 1st husband cheated, very very frustrated man, everything works, yet wife dosnt, iam losing my interest in sex with her, which , means, dont feel like doing anything that means being close, everything is connected

talk about demoralizing...

i was w/ my ex-fiancee for 4 yrs. engaged 3 of them and after the first yr., he stopped wanting to have sex w/ me. i would ask and ask and try to initiate, but to no avail. if he rarely did, then it felt like he had a "job" to do. we talked about it, i encouraged him to see a therapist, talk to friends, but he could never tell me why he didn't want to have sex or make love w/ me. i started thinking maybe he was gay, or cheating on me(which i think he was, b/c i found a pair of panties that weren't mine and his breath smelled like P**sy when he came home one night, not hard to mistake that smell) but never had the guts to confront him. i actually ended up cheating on him b/c i was getting my needs met elsewhere, and we split. i beat myself up about that for yrs. and never told anyone. i have forgiven myself for it, and will never do it again, but the emotional scarring of having to pursue someone like i did my ex still affects me sometimes to this day 6 yrs. later. even tho i am in a content relationship and have a very healthy sex life, if he doesn't feel like it, then i start freaking out. he's been patient w/ me on this, and i love him for it, but my point here is, if you are like i was, then please don't waste another minute if your partner is not willing to remedy this situation. it is not worth the humiliation or insecurity that follows the denial. we are human. we have needs. it doesn't mean you are a sex-crazed woman who should wait around for 20 yrs. till he is ready to catch up w/ you. marriage is about compromise. and willingness. and faith. even if it means letting the one you love go...i know that everyone has their exceptions and situations, but i just hope that this might help someone to come to a conclusion or just relating and not feeling alone. i wish us all the best intimate lives w/ our partners. we all deserve it. we all deserve love on every level.

It is just as demoralizing

It is just as demoralizing for a man to beg for sex. I was married 24 years and can honestly say we averaged 1 - 2 times a month for sex. When I tried to get intimate/romantic I would get the "I'll just lay here" response. I did not want to just get off, I wanted to make love. About 3 years before we physically separated and I moved out, I decided it was not worth the emotional aggravation and demoralization so I stopped trying. That was it for our physical relationship. BTW, some people might ask how I stayed with her so long. We managed to have 3 kids and I wanted to keep things together as best as possible for the kids and it did seem to work out ok for them.

Always having to ask for sex

Hello Michelle,
I am not sex-starved, But Michelle, why do you feel I am always having to ask my wife of twenty years for us to have sex? She is often complimentary, and says she enjoys it. Yet, I feel it selfishness veto power she loves.

Recently, it was time to go to bed, I was upset w/ her that she was again going to watch TV until midnight, that this is ALWAYS the case, so I told her that was it "I am not begging you anymore, I am a man, you know".

The very next night she turned off the TV, came to bed ten minutes after me and surprised me hopping in bed naked and ready to roll!

Michelle, what does your experience tell you is going on here in our marriage?

Hallelujah -

just when I thought I was on my own with this issue... THANK YOU FOR BRINGING IT UP (no pun intended!)!!! I was always the more sexual person in our relationship, and I never wanted to reduce the man I love just to his penis or my relationship with the latter. But have you ever thought about what lack of sex AND getting turned down time and time again does to a woman's self-esteem, not to mention her irritability? Is it too much to ask for physical intimacy once a week? I know he's stressed, but hey, so am I - distancing yourself from me will only create even more problems, see vicious-nag-cycle described above. If he'd at least be willing to talk about it, but ignoring the ever-growing pink elephant in the room is making it harder and harder (oh, don't I wish...) to bridge the gap that's been widening with every eye-roll and shrug in the opposite direction. I'm beginning to question other parts of our marriage, for goodness' sake! If this is supposed to be some freak-a** test to see how long I'll put up with this, I'll tell you know this is going to backfire. I'm only one woman, my patience won't last forever. I didn't get married to masturbate! :-)
Ok, rant over. I love my man, I do, but I also love to get laid. Sex is such an integral part of the connection between two people in love, and I don't even want to sound corny. It's just the way I see it. Two people not having sex are friends. Marriage is for lovers.

Sex, Manipulation, and Misery

The power to give another human sexual joy an satisfaction is an immense one. In my marriage, that has been an issue the whole time. Much of it was my issue, some of it was her opportunistic lust for control in that relationship.

My job; Deal. And yes, she does respond well when I assert myself as a man. Two parts to it then; Deal, and Assert.

Which brings up that nag/emasculate/complain stuff women seem to excell at. If you could just knock that shit off, we'd ALL get along better. I don't need an intimate echoing what the world tries to tell me daily: I'm not perfect (professionally), I need stuff (marketing) and I live in a world that doesn't care about me (politics).

Throw sexual rejection on top of that and ask me if I'm sporting wood for anyone. You gals really take a chance vying for control with sex. What is it in women that first demands we dedicate all our sexual energy to you, our mate, then assume control of the supply of sexual satisfaction?

Any guy with a drop of testosterone will resist ANYTHING that tries to control him. If it's a loved one, it may take longer, but he will resent it. He will get free of the enslavement. All I can tell you, after a 30+ year relationship; put those cards on the table, NOW.

I can't imagine a guy who wouldn't like to hear how much good he does his woman, how much she needed that, and how good she feels when it's done. Imagine, he's not being criticised, evaluated, or rejected. He's functioning, having a great time, and you are too.

So, where's the down side?

If you don't belong together. If you can't adapt to each other. If you WON'T adapt to each others needs with good humor and willing submission, then get the hell out of each others misery. Anything less will just make it worse. And worse. The cycle of bitterness, resentment, and control will just take your relationship straight to Hell.

I'm just saying . . .

Yes

Yes, once a week IS too much to ask, to riposte your rhetoric, for some people. Consider this, I rarely do laundry once a week, and that's not nearly so physically or emotionally taxing (and taxing it is, for someone getting it on as a favor to someone else). View your conclusion from the other side. You say "Two people not having sex are friends. Marriage is for lovers." I would argue that two people having sex are horndogs. Marriage is for people in love.

LOVE is the difference

To the person who wrote - "Two people not having sex are friends. Marriage is for lovers". -------- Do you honestly believe that the ONLY difference between friends and lovers is sex? Ever heard of LOVE? (aka BEING IN LOVE and sex is not love). If my husband and I didn't have sex for a day/week/month does that mean that during that time we have suddenly become "just friends" and we are no longer in love? Then, when we do have sex again - presto chango - we are magically in love again. What BS!!! Maybe if you focused more on the LOVE the perceived lack of sex wouldn't be such as issue.

A Man's Opinion

What comes first?:
The complaining!!!
Ladies,
You need to stop complaining
and
start initiating sex
before
things start to go bad,
not later.

ok what about those guys

ok what about those guys that are crappy to you all day? are we supposed to bow down and plead? That is embarrassment, and a major self esteem dropper. We're supposed to feel great about our selves and sex and try to turn you men on when you act as if you don't care?

DO YOU REALLY WANT TO KNOW?

Instead of constantly trying to change him,
maybe you shouldn't have married that man.
Fighting, complaining about HIM CHANGING IS
the #1 problem in the married battle of the sexes.
My advice:
Find a man who you respect and
who shares your WORLD VIEW;
NOT one who you want to change.
IF YOU CAN'T FIND HIM
THEN PERHAPS YOU SHOULDN'T GET MARRIED
UNTIL YOU DO(if you don't, then don't).

How Come?

How come that when a man wants sex
he's an animal;
but when a woman wants sex
it's a spiritual and emotional issue
that needs to be explored and remedied.
Can one of you Ladies tell me?

There is nothing a woman

There is nothing a woman likes better than to set up a situation where her man is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. That way she can dispense approval or disapproval according to her mood of the moment. It's no wonder guys get tired of it. If she wants sex she should do what guys have had to do since the beginning of time; figure out what it takes to lure and seduce your partner into the sack. Here's a hint for those slow on the uptake. Nagging isn't it.

Bitter! Party of One....your table is ready.

Geez....!

wow

excuse me, but not all women are nags. some of you men seem to feel strongly that this problem is exclusively women's fault. i don't think that's very helpful. i, for one, do not nag. i don't believe in it. my boyfriends have even told me that that's one thing they love about me. and yet at times men go through something weird where they lose interest. and damned if i can figure it out. if i give them appreciation and warmth, don't nag, and keep up my figure/looks, etc., then what more can i do? i just wish i had the answer at those times.
maybe some of you you men can comment on that.

RE:WOW

You sound like a wonderful assertive woman and I'm sure that the losing interest part was probably not your fault. You couldn't have done anything else. The issue was with them why they lost interest. Perhaps they never wanted a relationship to begin with and only wanted sex. Believe me a lot of guys want relationships and sex, but some are not emotionally mature to be honest about fearing rejection.

Another reason may be that the initial "passion" that is felt with any new relationship inevitabily diminishes. If the guy is insecure and you make him feel happy because he does not fully love himself then inevitably that deficit comes back when they realize you haven't fullfilled that void in themselves. A genuine relationship is one in which people share love for eachother, not to fulfill a void in eachother for how the other makes them feel.

Hope this helps.

No Sex with my wife

I have been married 35 years, and my wife didn't want to get it on on our wedding night. It's been a problem ever since. Talk about manipulation - I believe that is the primary reason women do this, other than they are lesbians. Why have I allowed myself to be? The list of reasons is endless, religious reasons, 2 kids, I luv her, etc. What a life. MEN - I DON'T RECOMMEND IT! If your wife is doing this to you ditch her, like I FINALLY am going to do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DUDES! This article is about

DUDES! This article is about women whose husbands don't want sex as often. There are already a zillion articles and books out there for the opposite problem (that your wives don't want to have sex with YOU). It's more well accepted that the man has a higher sex drive -- but in this case we are exploring when the opposite occurs. So you are commenting up the wrong tree here!!! Please let's talk about the subject at hand.

:D

Darn, I could almost call myself one of these "sex-starved wives" but well... I happen to be living together with another girl, and yeah, we are a couple :) I am the one who loves sex, I wouldn't mind doing it 3 times a day, trying out new exciting things, heck, even do it somewhere risky and rather public, but she doesn't really like it as much as I do. She wants it only about once a month. It's stressing for me but complaining doesn't really help much either. I've tried to ask her why does she want to make love so rarely and she can't really give any reason. Guess she just isn't so driven as I am. Complaining won't change that. I'll just keep on trying, even if it sometimes pretty awful to be constantly pushed away.

Thanks for sharing

Thanks for sharing as this is clearly not a male/female thing. I think some ppls drives are not as strong as others. I too am a S.S.W., 35 years old in the same monogomus realtionship for almost 9 years now. I wonder at which point asserting and communicating our needs as weomen becomes nagging. I don't mind initiating but have always been the initiator about 95% of the time. I am bi and my husband has shared that he would not mind me having a physical relationship with another woman but I choose to remain monogomous because I made a commitment, I love and want my husband and only him. This is a very frustrating. A woman wants to feel desired and loved. I want a friend and lover not a room mate!

not a roommate

Before my guy (42) and I began living together, I'd get juicy voice messages and e-mail about how much he desired me, couldn't wait to make love to me, etc. That all turned out to be a fantasy, even before we moved in together. His equipment CAN work fine. He just chooses not to most of the time (stays up late to watch TV, doesn't take "naps" when he knows damn well what I mean by a "nap", won't neck on the couch). I've tried asking honestly for more interest, and he promises, swears he desires only me, but he won't ever initiate ANYTHING except some poking from behind some mornings. My instincts scream "Let him go." But he won't leave, and it's MY house. Suggestions?

it's depression

Thanks for finally mentioning depression in your article.No matter what the complaint or who's holding off for what reason,depression is the main reason for loss of desire- period.Resentment is simply being confused about why your spouses personality has changed and the depressives slow fading from life. Weather a man or a woman, mental illness is the libido killer.sincerely-David Petropoulos

Male standards

I was once very into my wife. Then she started getting bigger, and bigger, and bigger. Then... 'How dare I make her change her life for me.'

The media paints the man as the bad guy for not being sensitive to a woman's needs. 85% of women are either soo fat no-one wants her or, too full of bs idea that the media propagates, to be wanted by a mainstream man.

But its the mans fault because her colossal fatness is a 'lifestyle decision' that they have no right to question. That a women should never change for a man yet womens national pastime is changing men. Men have no right to demand what they want and are left to let her take half of everything plus the kids and be left destitute.

I guess it boils down to the double standard. Women change men as a hobby and a man has no right over a womens 'body'

A single man's response.

I wonder if most women realize the little things they do that make them sexier. They are so subtle, that I don't think they realize what a turn on they are. Even a mildly attractive woman can become instantly SEXY to me if they exude a casual/friendly outward nature. Ex-girlfriends of mine could have me panting with a smirk, a funny joke, even a belch. I don't think I have an overactive sex drive, but I do know that as nice as lingerie can be, the purpose is to get it off. So what's the point? There is something so much sexier about fighting to tear off a woman's jeans, or unfastening of a bra, or a subtle glimpse of the small of a back than there is an overt sexual gesture, or provacative lingerie.

Bitter

Wow, that's a lot of bitterness in one comment thread. And almost all from men, which is especially interesting since the post was about sex-starved *women*. It's the girls' turn to complain, you berks!

I may be a naive, starry-eyed 27-year-old with a blind spot where monogamy is concerned, but from what I can tell, the attitudes displayed by the guys posting here is probably NOT part of the solution.

Seriously, listen to yourselves!

85% of women are to fat to be desirable? Women refuse sex because they are manipulative and evil, or lesbians? Men don't want to have sex because women are nag-machines? It's the veto power she loves?

Guys, I hate to tell you this, but unless you can get yourself interested in men somehow, you're going to be stuck with women for the rest of your lives. How about not assuming she's doing this to spite you? How about trying to see things from her perspective? How about working to improve things, even IF you think SHE is to blame? How about having a little hope for humanity, for crying out loud?

Then, maybe it's easy for me to talk. I'm getting what I need.

Fat Women Complaining About Not Getting Sex....

But it's the men who have the "attitude"...

Funniest thing I've read today.

Keep up the good work.

Very true

Hi there,
I appreciated your recent PT blog entry on low male libido. Please disregard the hateful comments posted by clueless men. The issue you described is very real, and is one I have endured for the last 12 years, since my longtime boyfriend and I fell in love in high school. We did seek therapy and I believe my partner's core issue is a depressive state, which affects all his primary behaviors: sleeping, eating, sex, etc. He is extremely demonstrative and loving in every other way, so in essence is the OPPOSITE of the stereotypical male partner many women complain about. And, unlike in marriages where the man "gets tired of" the woman and roams, he truly has no sexual desire in anyone and never really has. Thank you for validating this very frustrating experience that is the one weight on our otherwise wonderful relationship. I encourage members of your field to research this issue despite it not being in keeping with society's M.O.
Thank you--

I can truly identify with

I can truly identify with this. I am in an otherwise WONDERFUL marriage. My husband is caring, attentive, generous, loving and gorgeous. We are in our 40s. The bedroom activity is virtually zero. Very occassionally, out of obligation we will have intercourse! That is it. No foreplay,no touching,no rubbing, not even kissing. When I mention the subject, he becomes extremely aggravated and shuts down. So I count my other blessings. Can we really have it all?

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