CWD (Couples With Disabilities)

The adventures of a dyad with disabilities.

Who Gets to Be Sick Today?

If couples’ issues are amplified by illness, dealing with dual chronic illnesses makes them grow exponentially. Money, housework, sex and intimacy are complicated by feelings of being a burden, being inadequate, wanting to care, but being unable to do so. We will explore all these. However, you may find that our disabilities are the least interesting things about us. Read More

Who Gets to Be Sick Today?

When my husband and I got married almost 5 years ago, we knew it wasn't going to be easy for either of us - he has type 2 diabetes and arthritis, and I have fibromyalgia, arthritis, mobility issues, and problems from a failed WLS. We have figured out how to adapt to those challenges so that we can live the life we want. It isn't easy, it doesn't always work, and things change from time to time and we have to figure out new adaptations because of those changes. The fact that we love each other and are committed to each other makes it easier, but it's still a struggle at times.

Perhaps the Greatest Issue

Congratulations on being the first person to comment on our blog! It's a pity that ethical standards prevent our rewarding you substantially. (Heh.)

Aside from the most severe physical ramifications, perhaps the greatest issue facing disabled persons and their caregivers is the desire of medical professionals to indulge in out-and-out discrimination against them. Disabled people get a lot of help from their practitioners, but there are two sides to the coin, and the other side isn't a pretty one. Perhaps the most ridiculous prejudice is the campaign to "decide" that it's good clean fun to work out on fat people, young and old. WLS continues despite having been debunked again and again, and the only reasonable explanation is that someone thought it would be cute just to start killing fat people outright and someone else pointed out that someone could make a lot of money that way.

A more subtle form of discrimination is observed in practitioners who refuse to diagnose fat patients, implicitly or explicitly. The stories of people whose relatives have died from one undiagnosed condition or another because someone in a white jacket "decided" that their "real" problem was that they were "fat" and thus needn't be checked for underlying issues have been stacking up for years. (Perhaps these stories are considered epistemologically invalid by "research professionals" because they are not firsthand reports; God knows.)

I say all of this to allow me to say two things: (1) I'm sorry you were conned into WLS, and (2) I'm glad your thyroid was removed while it still could be. (See, I follow people's links if I'm in the mood.)

Good idea, but...

While I absolutely agree the this topic is interesting, exactly what to discuss depends upon what the mix of handicaps are. I am not clear about how one can discuss generally what couples experience. I would be interested to understand how you plan to deal with that.

The one piece of general advice is to make sure to seek out help from beyond the couple when you need it.

We plan...

to discuss the issues we have faced as chronically ill folks. It is true that we cannot address all disabilities, nor all coupling issues, but what we hope is that the experience of others will show up in the comments and a great discussion will break out.

Our point is that we cannot find anything, anywhere that recognizes that two people can be sick and/or disabled at the same time. For the past three years we've been looking.

As far as the seek-out-help advice -- yes, can be good advice but doesn't solve all issues. We happen to be a childless couple that lives far from family, so we have had to do a lot of things alone. We have hired help and sought support in many ways, but there are still things that you have to work on together and outside intervention can only go so far.

For couples dealing with paraplegia and quadreplegia

I look forward to reading what you post.

There is a Spouse and Carer's forum for the partners of paras and quads. While it includes discussion of able bodied care-takers, there is also room there for discussion of problems experienced by the non-para/quad partner.

http://www.apparelyzed.com/forums/forum/32-spouse-carers-forum-including...

No, that's -my- walker.

My beloved is older than me and has a plethora of problems which qualify him for public paratransit. I travel with him a lot, and often I travel as his "aide", since he often needs an aide, especially for doctor visits. Frequently I am put in the position of letting a driver know that, no, that rollator actually belongs to me. I have a stenosis in my spine, and need to sit frequently, and a rollator comes in handy.

No, we're -both- chronically ill. :)

I don't talk about my "invisible disability" openly in meat space. As such, I expect people see me and Pattie travelling together and think, since she is the one on a scooter most of the time, that I'm the "healthy one" and Pattie the "disabled one." The main difference from your situation is that if I'm too sick to be out, Pattie winds up having to get around on her own. She has become adept at it after two to three years of scooting, but it does make things more convenient when we can go together and complement each other. :)

I get what you're both doing/writing!

My husband and I are both dealing with now-chronic issues. He's more experienced in being injured & dealing with rehab & recovery; I'm more experienced in the science(s) of our meds, procedures, and doctors. In that way we complement each other's experiences & knowledge.

The title of your 1st column - Who Gets To Be Sick Today - is way too familiar for us these days. If one of us is sick, the other can cover. But it's always a constant worry in the background that by one of us being sick one day, the other will be over-stressed and get sick as a result. It's happened and we dread sick days.

We both fight to continue to be capable in our chosen fields/careers, me most of all as being chronically ill is something new to me and I rage at times at the forced changes in our lives, MY life.

Luckily we do have good health insurance coverage, but dealing with that system can be very draining - having to constantly be on guard, to be continually advocating for our interests. So far, so good.

We do have some help for things we just cannot do any more about the house - housecleaning & outside chores, mostly. We are so grateful for those friends who cherish our friendship. Still, they too have lives of their own and some day may not be so available. I don't like to dwell much on that, but the thought is there for the "just in case" back up plan.

I look forward to future columns from you both. It's good to know there can be shared experience(s) and knowledge.

Pit Traps in the Career Path

The issue of career path was one we hit hard in the blog entry. When we decided to do the blog, we noticed a dearth of resources on the Web dealing with disabled couples, and we noticed a dearth of resources constructing the disabled/chronically ill person as a competent individual to whom a random event had happened and who would like to get on with his life and his livelihood. The preoccupation (or the notion that the disabled person should be preoccupied) with medical issues to the exclusion of all others and the subtext of non-fatal conditions as establishing a person as being "not really disabled" were widespread. You can probably guess from our tone in the blog entry (and in this remark) what we thought of that.

The title of our blog entry was meant to be darkly humorous. It would be more darkly humorous if it weren't true, I suppose. In particular, your comment about responding to the imposition of a disability upon oneself with "rage" for the reasons you did struck a responsive chord in me. I brought to the marriage not only the devotion of the lover but considerable training in administrative matters. I had no trouble seeing the relevance of my studies to the project at hand. I was sufficiently diligent about working for our combined success that I inescapably found a PROFESSIONAL interest in seeking its fulfillment! When I became ill, I was beset by such anger at myself for falling down on the job that "rage" seems a poor word for it. "Contempt" would be better. Pattie has helped me to see the issue of disability more clearly, as being nobody's fault and as no reflection on me, either personally or professionally.

Also, does the caregiver in a one-disabled-spouse marriage hate himself or herself more than a little if he/she gets sick eventually? The illness keeps the formerly-well spouse from seeing to a responsibility, one which this spouse has done consistently in the absence of illness. To keep someone from the accolades of a job well done is enormously prejudicial, and we rightly react to such treatment, when we are so obstructed, with rage. Also, there is the personal, and interpersonal, element to consider: the relationship depended on us, the former caregivers, and we have failed. We have not just dropped the ball, we have dropped the loved one. The horror and self-hatred can easily supersede anything as sterile as "professional pride." We often find out that even if the caregiver role wasn't that pleasant, it was something that defined us, and we were happy that it was. We know ourselves to be the type who could handle the role, and the new disability keeps us from being recognized as such. It lies about us shamelessly, but when we resist the lie and attempt to retake our former role, we find how solid the case of our opponent is. Who then is left to hate, if not ourselves?

Interesting take on the

Interesting take on the "rage" - that it ultimately devolves down to focusing on the self. Must think more on that.

However, a lot of it is more in line with "Rage, Rage against the dying of the light..." and "do not go lightly into the night..." (apologies if mixing metaphons/quotes)

I have always been a fighter to do the things I want to do - always pushing against resistance of some sort. To me, my new chronic illness(es) are yet another obstacle course to navigate. Sometimes I feel like I'm on the Mad Hatter's Tea Party at Disney and each new incident whirls me off & away into some new direction and/or landscape. And I lose touch with what once was - people, places, activities.

So I rage at the forced separation that I have no control over, which makes me become more focused on paying attention to the "now" and to try to stem the tidal wave of change some. Sometimes it works and sometimes I just have to adapt to a new landscape & new rules and make the best of a less than ideal situation.

My husband has had more experience in this area and has helped me adjust - to accept that my body just won't do the things it used to, that the life as I'd known it is gone. But I still rage at times - maybe it's more grieving than rage?

Right/Write On!

Expert knowledge comes with self-experience which undoubtedly your relationship contains. I have every reason to know your blog is a well needed and hard to find subject and not as rare or not-like-ours as people initially think. I am physically handicapped with a mental disorder married to my high school sweetheart who has a mental illness. We met in 1975 and went separate paths in 1982, reconnected in 1990 and both our work professions ended around 1997. No children. Our years since have been astoundingly challenging in the subjects from reputation to civil, criminal, federal cases won and now is our marriage and abusive family relationships. He is depression; I'm bipolar. The zig and zag is now mostly drag and while its tough to admit, its wonderful to know you both have focus on the goal of past experiences, education, sharing, finding and expressing. One wellspring can produce much for a village; two wellsprings offer sustainability at the least. Thank you for brainstorming the concept and congratulations in its birth.

Glad To Hear It!

We reasoned when we conceived of the blog that (1) there was nothing out there covering disabled couples, married or otherwise, and (2) we couldn't be the only one. I am pleased to hear from you that you strongly suspect we were right on both counts.

Mental illness can drive you crazy. An obvious problem is how as a practical matter to administrate your own treatment and your own way through the life course (or "courses," for those who design their own) given that your perceptions are perhaps subject to distortion. One way is a partnership with someone whose abilities complement your own, and your comment about combining "wellsprings" is especially touching and valid if one considers it a metaphor for mental illness. This complementation is as valuable, and as sweet, with mental illness as with physical illness. I hear disabled persons called "differently abled" often, and the repercussions are more relevant in the context of interpersonal relationships than individually, with the possibility that you can do what your partner can't. Organizations use a combination of minds to address administrative issues and invoke division of labor as a matter of course, and entreaties that one should be expected to "stand on one's own" and be "self-reliant" are not necessarily optimal in this area. The implications for couples dealing with mental illness are obvious.

A friend pointed me at your

A friend pointed me at your blog and I'm so glad she did! My partner and I are both in our twenties, and coming up hard against that fact that my chronic issues (depression, pain and a nice assortment of undiagnosed stuff my doctor wont look into. currently looking for a new doctor) aren't going to get any better. and that she has to face that her issues aren't just passing either. we both feel so guilty for not being capable enough to help the other, let alone ourselves, so hearing we're not alone and that couples *do* make it is really heartening. so thank you! looking forward to reading more.

Thanks for your interest.

Thank you for seeking out the blog. While we're at it, thank your friend for passing on the news.

You can "help" your disabled partner in a dozen different ways even if you're not a health professional. The struggle is always a shared one, and to the extent that you focus yourself and yourselves on dealing with the prejudice, discrimination, and outright fraud that can accrue to disabled persons and their caregivers, you are helping with perhaps the most important aspect of all. Moreover, every time you collaborate on other issues in life, you free up time and energy for each other to deal with issues directly and indirectly related to disability and chronic illness. It's an attrition war.

There is no need to blame yourselves or each other. To gear up substantially for the ensuing struggles in life is a praiseworthy start.

I'm excited to have found you!

I've also noticed there's a definite lack of discussion about disabled and chronically ill families; it's mostly discussing an able-bodied partner with a disabled partner. I'm in a polyamorous triad where all three of us have chronic illnesses and disabilities, and I haven't found a lot of support out there for us.

I've also been given the diagnosis of "fat" for many years, starting very young, which delayed my REAL diagnoses far too long, causing irreversible damage. I still have plenty of healing and treating I can do, but the fact that some damage is permanent because of doctors' abuse and ignorance is infuriating. I have also developed PTSD because of doctors' abuse and ignorance, and it seems especially cruel and inhumane to me that the doctors who are supposed to help me have caused such extreme emotional trauma that they've given me yet another illness to manage. An illness triggered by trying to manage it, no less.

I'm glad to see this blog! I look forward to reading more.

Tricycles Versus Vicious Cycles

I hadn't thought about the dynamics of triads or vees with chronically ill/disabled members. It seems you would be more resilient to such misfortunes, for the same reason that riding a tricycle is easier than riding a bicycle. However, if all of the members start out chronically ill or disabled, that does invalidate my hypothesis to a degree.

You mention the incompetence (and malice) of the medical practitioners you have encountered due to weight issues, but it appears that persons participating in active multiple partner relationships face no less prejudice in the outside world. It appears that you are not allowed to raise the "poly" issue at all within North American Anglo culture, let alone to self-identify. And yes, that is prejudice, even and especially when it goes unmarked or "passively" taken as given. I do not suggest that you have not developed PTSD because of your mistreatment at the hands of the medical system; I suggest that another no-win situation is that once you leave the doctor's office there is nowhere to go to take a respite from the trauma. I would call that a vicious cycle on another level.

An effective exception is often found in the ability to set up close relationships. Being able to do so with as many people as is personally desirable is optimal. It follows that your tricycle may be the best weapon you have against such pandemic prejudice. Don't think your opponents don't know it.

Happy to have found you!

When my husband and I married 7 years ago, he was "officially" considered disabled and was on Worker's Compensation. That ended for reasons that were never clear to us so he tried very hard to work again. After a year or so a combination of physical and mental disabilities made continued work for pay impossible. He has been trying to get Social Security Disability payments for years now (has another hearing in April, cross your fingers for us!). The good news is he is married to me so he has health insurance and a place to live. The bad news is, he's married to me so he's not eligible for Medicaid or other helpful benefits.

Meanwhile, I've been chronically ill literally since birth. My first memory is of being in the hospital with pneumonia at age 2. However, I've worked, gone to college and grad school and raised 3 lovely daughters. "Normal" is relative. In the last few years I've gained more chronic conditions and lost mobility. I'm saving leave from work to have a 2nd hip replacement. Luckily I have a job that could be done from a wheelchair if necessary, so long as my mind stays clear.

We often have to discuss who "gets" to be ill on a given day. We've been able to balance it except for the times one or the other is in hospital or recovering from surgery. Then it's time to call in all our favors and the non-hospitalized partner needs to take REALLY good care of themselves as temporary primary caregiver.

Looking forward to following this unique discussion!

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Carl Wilkerson, M.B.A. is an artist, author, mathematician and business analyst who has lived with a chronic illness for the past three years.

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