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Are Dogs More Intelligent than Cats?

New data based upon comparing brain size to body size shows that, not only are dogs smarter than cats, but over evolutionary time, the difference between the species in intelligence has been increasing.

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"Animals that live in social

"Animals that live in social groups are always smarter and have large EQ's than solitary animals."

However, between humans it is exactly the opposite, I think - the stereotype (and stereotypes have always some base in reality) is that humans with more intelligence tend to be of the misanthropic, schizoid, type

I believe that cats are

I believe that cats are typically more independent while dogs are more social. I noticed however when my friend had cats that the cats were more opportunistic than the dog. They would do more for food. He later gave them away and got 2 pups they are more about getting attention and playing. Where the cats were more about lounging and eating.

Frankly, Stan

re: "At the risk of starting another argument, these data may explain why we never hear about such things as a "seeing eye cat," "police cat" or "search and rescue cat."" We have much more important things to do. For example, I am a feline "expert" for this blog. See my post for Psychology Today at She Bets Her Life. www.psychologytoday.com/blog/she-bets-her-life/201011/popular-demand-dr-...
If my writing doesn't convince you, then consider that canine feces are scattered everywhere - ours are buried.
Your colleague, Chi Chi LaChatte

While I love cats I beg to

While I love cats I beg to differ on the burial of feces. Mine (4 of them) will poop in my neighbors grass and make a few motions which don't bury it and my neighbor yells at me because her little daughter plays in the grass, ewwwww. But on the whole yes they are light years better than dogs in the poop department and they do use litter boxes after all.

"Police Cat"

One reason there are no police cats is the fact that dogs can tear someone into pieces if needed. Also, if "social" creatures are smarter, then are ants smarter than most animals. Come on, seriously? It may be that as a cat lover I don't believe this, it may be that if I liked dogs I would agree with you. And on the seeing eye cat and search and rescue cat thing. Seeing Eye Cat wouldn't work for the simple fact that the cat wouldn't give a crap about the person it was supposed to be guarding. And a cat simply doesn't have the size and/or strength to, for example pull someone out of the snow.

And yet some cats are bigger

And yet some cats are bigger than some dogs. Are only big dogs smarter than cats? Frankly I don't think this data proves anything one way or another. The thing I hate most about "cats vs dogs" debates is that some cats are smarter than some dogs, and some dogs are smarter than some cats. It's not universal.

Thanks! You summed up exactly

Thanks! You summed up exactly what I was thinking :)

your rebuttal is based only

your rebuttal is based only on size? Someone only read a few paragraphs before responding...

Pigs

In your descending list of intelligent animals, where does the pig fit in? We've all seen at one time or another people debating whether pigs are smarter than dogs. From what I have read in the past, I think the pig is more intelligent than it appears but not nearly as smart as a dog. Perhaps that is a given. But it wasn't even on your mini list here? I always thought they were a perennial addition to any list of intelligent animals?

Then why are dogs so needy

Then why are dogs so needy and such sycophants and why do they eat out of the cat litter box and always smell bad?
Dogs need constant attention and eat their own sick.
They do more damage to propery and have been known to eat the faces off children and sometimes kill people.

You're an idiot.

To begin with, your grammar is obnoxious. Instead of stating pure bullshit, go back to school and allow yourself to get educated and learn proper English. The only reason a dog would eat out of a cat litter box, would be because their owners are too stupid to train them not to. They "smell bad" because their owner is too stupid to bathe them. What's "propery"?
Lol, dogs are known to eat the faces off of children? Where the fuck do you live? I'm pretty sure you're getting a dog confused with a chimp. Try looking things up. Also, if you're going to state false cons about a dog and not about a cat, try to make them sound legit.
Cons of a cat:
-Smelly - Why? Because their owner won't bathe them.
-Eat my puppy's food- Why? Because they're just as curious as a puppy.
-Eat shit- Why? Because their owners are damn idiots.
-Track their shit from their litter onto the counters and various places in the house- Why? Because they are naturally adventurous animals.
-Scratches up furniture- Why? Because that how they naturally are and they can be trained not to.
-Could also scratch children's faces off- LOL ANY animal could harm someone or something. BUT RIPPING OFF FACES!? LOL. I'm going to go up to my little brother and scratch down him face and rip it off :D!
What would you do if a dog saved your family from a fire? You'd still say, "oh I don't care if this dog just saved my life and my families lives, it's still stupid and smelly and rips the faces off of children!" You sir, are a moron.

intelligence

Man, where does all that venom come from? Just out of curiosity, how many "idiots" do you run into on a regular basis? How many people do you curse out in the course of a given day or week? Or do you save it all up and vent your bile in forums and discussions? Let the ignorant be ignorant, so what? You think you're gonna change that guy's mind? You think anybody's impressed with your ranting? Don't count on it. This is just a discussion. Just opinions. Peoples' perceptions. Lighten up. I wouldn't worry about animals, I think you need to work on your humanity. I feel sorry for your brother, hope he isn't being raised in the same toxic stew that you apparently come from. Get therapy before it's too late.

Nora the Piano Playing Cat Suggests Otherwise

Anyone familiar with YouTube has come across Nora, seen here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZ860P4iTaM

Cats just don't care to have their intelligence measured and their use of paws more than compensates for their solitary nature, in terms of overall intellectual development. But, most importantly, they are just attuned, artistic sensitive beings as this video demonstrates. No dog could ever have such a rich sensory experience with piano keys, tone and pitch.

Sure, I could probably beat Beethoven on a useless IQ test, since I have always aced standardized tests, including the GRE and the Stanford Binet test, but I could never dream of having the creative and musical genius of Beethoven.

I am thinking that the IQ of dogs and cats is roughly equal, with perhaps dogs getting the slightest edge, but that the overall imagination, sensitivity and the richness of the inner lives of cats far exceeds that of dogs, which are unimpressively simple animals.

Actually, cats are not

Actually, cats are not sensitive to tune or pitch (the only animal that comes close to this is the parakeet). The only reason the cat was capable of playing the piano is simply because its owners taught it what keys to push and when to push them. Training a cat to do this probably took a lot of dedicated time, but if they were to train a dog how to play the piano it would learn much more quickly (although it would not be able to because of its clumsy paws).

Overall, dogs are smarter than cats, actually by quite a bit. However, cats have many more brain cells dedicated to sensory nerves (rather than used for storing information like dogs). This means that even though dogs are much more intelligent than cats, cats are able to hear, smell, and see much better than dogs.

Nora the Piano Playing Cat Suggests Otherwise

Anyone familiar with YouTube has come across Nora, seen here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZ860P4iTaM

Cats just don't care to have their intelligence measured and their use of paws more than compensates for their solitary nature, in terms of overall intellectual development. But, most importantly, they are just attuned, artistic sensitive beings as this video demonstrates. No dog could ever have such a rich sensory experience with piano keys, tone and pitch.

Sure, I could probably beat Beethoven on a useless IQ test, since I have always aced standardized tests, including the GRE and the Stanford Binet test, but I could never dream of having the creative and musical genius of Beethoven.

I am thinking that the IQ of dogs and cats is roughly equal, with perhaps dogs getting the slightest edge, but that the overall imagination, sensitivity and the richness of the inner lives of cats far exceeds that of dogs, which are unimpressively simple animals.

Look at your own destruction,

Look at your own destruction, Dr. Did not do the research:

http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/bb/kinser/Int3.html

small birds 1/12 >
human = mice 1/40 >
cat 1/100 >
dog 1/125

from your loooonnnng list of dogs related publications, it did not show your expertise in the field but only the confirmation bias in your thinking.

If you had bothered to read

If you had bothered to read the whole article that you linked to...
E/S - ratio of brain weight to body weight. humans = 1/40
EQ - brain weight compared to the EXPECTED brain weight for an animal's body size. This measure EXTRA brain mass.

Using the CORRECTED values, we get
EQ:
humans = 7.44
dolphins = 5.31
chimpanzees = 2.49
rhesus monkeys = 2.09
whales = 1.76
dogs = 1.17
cats = 1.00

Dr. Coren was basing his article on the more reliable EQ. The article you linked to supports Dr. Coren's position.

You shouldn't accuse someone of being biased when you yourself are only capable of skimming an article and selecting the information that you like.

Kitties!

My babies don't wanna be humans--they want to be kitties!

Ok, so they're dumb. But it's still really cute. What else am I supposed to be looking for, in a pet?

If rats lived longer (instead of dying and constantly breaking my heart), I'd totally have them as pets, instead.

Cats, dogs, and rats... oh my.

I've grown up with primarily cats and dogs. I had 27 mice at one point during middle school (not by accident—I bred them) and I got my first rat in high school. Currently I have two cats and my current rattus (Hamlet... who I "illegally" got in college and lived in a cage under my dorm bed while I was an RA... lol). I must say that I've gotten into cat vs. dog arguments before and I think it comes down to preference, really. I like dogs plenty, but I also work 40-50 hours a week with a job that requires me to drop everything if I'm needed outside of my normal work hours (yaaay...) and frankly, I don't have time to deal with a needy dog.

"If rats lived longer (instead of dying and constantly breaking my heart), I'd totally have them as pets, instead."

I love rats and in my personal experience, they're smarter than dogs (... and cats lol) and much more easily trained. They also possess a lot of dog-like characteristics in social interactions. If rats were larger (that is—not so squishy), I could easily see bomb-sniffing rats and seeing-eye rats. Unfortunately, they have the stigma of being unclean... and a lot of people have serious issues with the tail (these same people tend to want a pet squirrel... odd).

If I actually had more than 3-4 hours a day of spare time a day, I'd probably be more of a dog person.

I cannot disagree more

I am a 26 year old musician, which means I am not home a lot. So I got a cat. I grew up with cats, dogs, birds, and what else have you so I am a lover of all animals; except reptiles, they just creep me out.

The dogs I had growing up were hunting dogs; they were very smart in the fact that they knew all sorts of commands and were extremely obedient. So I recognize that dogs are very intellegent creatures. But I have to agree with most when it's said that cats are simply smarter because they do not need to rely on humans to survive.

Cats can be taught tricks if you do the same things as if you were teaching a dog; start them off young and reward them with treats. I have seen trained cats. Look at Sigfried (I know I didn't spell that right) and Roy. CATS!

To say that dogs are more social and smarter because they are from "pack animals" is obsurd; lions are cats. They live in prides and hunt as a group. When adopting kittens, most of the time the litters need to be adopted in pairs because they enjoy each other's company.

The easiest thing to cite is that cats do not need to be housebroken. I got my kitten when she was 8 weeks old, and she already knew how to use a litter box simply from watching her mother do it.

My cat is friendly, playful, and funny. She rubs up against my legs and purrs when I come home, so cats are capable of being loyal to their owners (she doesn't really show much affection for my roommates). She follows me around the house, licks my face (which hurts like hell with her kitty tongue), and meows at me when my alarm goes off. All in all, I'd say she's a smart little girl, in a tinier cleaner package than a dog.

The Scale is Wrong

I am the oldest of five human children. I have lived with three German Shepherd Dogs over my lifetime (all three from the same kennel), and several cats (of varied origin). I think that the problem with studies like this is that they treat animals with broad strokes, i.e., they compare Border Collies to Basset Hounds to Bengals. I have discovered that there is a bell curve of intelligence quotient amongst animals just as there is amongst humans. Studies like this are beyond comparing apples to oranges; they are comparing apples to butter sticks. My Egyptian Mau Cat taught himself how to open a doorknob (a feat that should have been impossible given his lack of opposable thumbs) and was a HUGE fan of Yoda from Empire. Just mentioning "do you want to watch Yoda?" would send him running to the screen, where he followed every movement with corresponding head and eye movements. This is not cat behavior that I have witnessed in other breeds, although a friend has Sphinx cats that seem to illustrate similar behavior patterns. All three of my German Shepherd Dogs have presented unique personalities, even though they share the same bloodline and training. And don't even get me started on the five different human personalities that grew up in my house . . . .
In short, the dog and cat people will wage war for time immortal. As scientific researchers, we need to move ourselves above the fray. We are accused of "personification" if we delve too deeply, but I think that is the exact argument that is needed here. I seek out animals with the highest level of intelligence that I can, because, for me, they are actually the easiest to deal with. So, I have dealt with a number of them throughout the years, from humans to birds to horses to the aforementioned dogs and cats. The main lesson that I have learned from them is that you approach them all with the same basic pattern of behaviors, adjusted only for their own natural instinct (e.g., a cat is a predator, a horse can't see straight on), and you have a good certainty of coming out ahead. Praise them whenever possible: all creatures love praise. Convince them all that they are special snowflakes. That's all it takes, regardless of the species. That tells me that we are looking at the wrong scale. Show me an animal that will not respond to praise and love, and I will concur that this animal is probably unintelligent.
It took a lot of years of research to come up with our modern IQ scale for humans, and still to the day it is controversial. It should come as no surprise, then, that we don't have a good scale for animals. If humans can't agree whether one IQ scale does or does not adequately reflect the IQ for a given race, why should we expect one scale to adequately reflect the IQ for all dogs of all breeds? Or all animals? I have found that those who would accuse me of personification are guilty of their own crime: hubris. They want one creature to "win," so they manipulate the scale to make it so. We are all guilty of it on a subconscious level. Wolfgang Pauli, one of the greatest of the quantum mechanics theorists, believed that the researcher CANNOT separate him/her-self from the experiment. That, I believe, is what is happening here. My "love" scale may be as flaky as all get out. But, at least I acknowledge it for what it is. Also, it allows me to identify dumb animals (including humans!) with high reliability.
Maybe the Beatles were right . . .

I think the reason there are

I think the reason there are no seeing eye cats etc. is lack of motivation. Dogs are codependent whereas cats are just here for the food. Slackers. I have 4 of em.

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Stanley Coren, Ph.D., F.R.S.C., is a professor of psychology at the University of British Columbia.

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