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What Kind of Porn Do Women Like the Most?

Online data reveals two fundamental--and surprising!--truths about women's tastes in visual pornography. Read More

The problem is in the definition

Why define porn as "visual porn" only? Men are much more visually stimulated than women, that's no secret, so if you reduce porn to the kind of porn that men like, it's no surprise at all that you're going to find out that women are not terribly interested in it. It's a given!

But extend the definition to the written word, for example, and the picture becomes infinitely different. From the more explicit Harlequin collections to "50 Shades of Grey", it's easy to see that women LOVE porn! Women consume MASSIVE amounts of porn - in written form.

And even in visual form, you just have to go look for it in the right places. Ever heard of "yaoi fangirls" and "fujoshi"? There are dozens of (mostly female) manga authors (and their publishing houses) who live just on drawing false-gay porn for a female public.

Anyone who thinks that women don't like porn is simply making the very basic mistake of assuming that all porn has to be like male porn. Women LOVE porn - just not the type of porn that men would like.

That was the point - are

That was the point - are women visually aroused? Nope. Certainly not enough to cater to them. Then again how fast would publishers go broke trying to sell erotic stories to men?

men read erotica

Actually, a lot of men enjoy erotic stories, from penthouse letters-styled personal accounts to femdom. The female market for written porn may be larger, but plenty of men buy it too.

The point?

It seems to me that the point of the article was that women don't like porn - which is simply flat-out wrong.

I want to know if site

I want to know if site traffic and demographic surveying is the only method of testing the response of women to visual pornography. If it is the only method that has been used, then I would point out that many women are a great deal more sexually repressed than men (in Western Culture, as well as a great many others, and I'd be surprised to hear about an extant culture where this was not the case) and feel that porn is a disrespectful, scummy pastime, because of societal conventions shaping them.

If, however, a more scientific study has been conducted, I would be interested to hear about it.

Personally, I feel that engaging someone for the express purpose of getting them off should probably involve a little objectification- though maybe the gender being objectified could be swapped around a little more often. I've actually heard that many women, including lesbians, find gay porn very satisfying because of the way it objectifies men. But it's much more than what they put on the screen- feminists object to the treatment of actors (particularly women and LGBT), poor working conditions, the social stigma that often means people who perform in pornography do so out of forced and desperate situations (not always the case), unfair payment, and on-set, real-life rape of actors.

Also, I think men don't enjoy erotics and stuff because it calls their heterosexuality and manliness into question. This is all about societal conventions.

But allow me to ask: remember Magic Mike? The advertising surrounding that movie? You know Ladies' Night at your local strip club, you know how heaps of women (well, okay, maybe that's just a certain kind of young, nerdy sort of woman) get demented pleasure out of watching Rocky Horror? Hell, the "beefcake" (muscled, sexually attractive, shirtless man) is an actual trope! What I'm getting at here is that women are very visually stimulated- when they're allowed to be.

What Kind of Porn Do Women Like the Most?

The kind where the man gives a woman lots of money and she goes out shopping and don't have sex with the guy.

They love to live that fantasy too.

That's not even porn. That's

That's not even porn. That's a butt-hurt man's/misogynist's fantasy.

Women like only money and

Women like only money and status and we all know it.

Grow up and admit the truth.

I don't think so

You really have been hanging around with the wrong kind of women - or maybe you just don't know any at all!

awwww wook who has no money

awwww wook who has no money or status.

I'll bet you're fat.

I'll bet you're fat.

Actually, no, and you still

Actually, no, and you still have no money or status.- Dr. P

100% tested and confirmed

100% tested and confirmed

100% tested and confirmed

100% tested and confirmed

Who cares what women like?

Who cares what women like?

I run For The Girls. Again with this nonsense?

I am one of the women who runs ForTheGirls.com. Ogi Ogas has no actual statistics to back up his assertions. He never spoke to us about our traffic or our membership numbers, he has no statistics to back up his assertions about our site. His research is based on the dodgy numbers at Alexa which does not represent how most people search.

Here is my blog post from 2011 regarding their assertions about For The Girls and porn for women.
http://msnaughty.com/blog/2011/06/24/a-billion-badly-researched-assertions/

For The Girls has been online since 2003, Sssh.com since 2002 (not 20 years as he says).

It is NOT a fact that "women aren't visual" - various research (e.g. Bailey, Northwestern University) reveals that women are just as turned on by visual material as men. The difference lies in what they're seeing and also in their learned cultural responses to porn. There's been a growth in feminist porn but it's still a minority part of the industry. You could also add that Google has done a great job of hiding porn recently, making it harder for women to find any different sorts porn beyond the free porn tube sites.

If you want ACTUAL research on women and porn, I recommend the work of Clarissa Smith and Feona Attwood. Their massive porn research project is ongoing. In 2011 it revealed that young women aged 18-25 are actually watching porn more than men their age.
http://msnaughty.com/blog/2011/10/19/porn-research-younger-women-more-li...

Yes! Thank you for writing! I

Yes! Thank you for writing! I am so sick of hearing that women aren't as visual as men. For some reason, people seem to overlook the huge flaws in past studies which rely on self disclosure. When these new studies were conducted, and neurological responses were observed, the results demonstrated that women are in fact just as visual as men, and are actually more turned on by a larger variety of different visual stimuli. I personally don't like 'typical' porn because most of the things they are doing look downright uncomfortable and painful! I also don't want a wishy washy gushy story attached to my porn. Sometimes I just want to get straight to the point, or sometimes I might want a bit of a naughty background behind it - but rarely ever is it an emotional story between starcrossed lovers like people think.

SOG is NOT good porn

I don't deny that it was incredibly popular with women, which is your contention, but I do feel compelled to point out that it is AWFUL. I have only read extensive quotes on a blog that is doing an extensive review of it, but I trust the writer to be representative.

It is badly written, unintentionally funny, and its BDSM element is cringingly bad (James does the 'kink' world a great disservice). That it was incredibly popular with women I found quite depressing, as its depiction of hetero relationships is just terrible.

Personally I looove hot men.

Personally I looove hot men. I love the Chippendales :):) I hate that I live in a society that is oppressive sexually towards women where I can't express it. I like younger men, and I like porn that men are in to.

BTW, not to be mean towards

BTW, not to be mean towards this author, but this is poorly designed research.

This is very misinformative,

This is very misinformative, and it is clear that not many women(if any) were involved in the writing of this article... clearly the person who wrote this has no idea about the different varieties of porn and erotic things that many real women like.

#1: Most women DO like porn. Those who claim they don't like porn are suppressing it because society has always told them it's a man's thing, and women shouldn't be looking at porn.
In reality, if you showed porn to a woman, she'd probably be turned on, especially if you showed the right kind.
Also keep in mind, if a woman says "I don't like porn", you could be misinterpreting it. She could mean, that she doesn't like the sexism involved with "normal" porn, and therefore avoids it for that reason, but that does not mean she is devoid of sexual desire. Women like to fantasize like men do, just differently.

#2: Wrong. Very wrong. Or at the very least, very single-sided(did you only talk to one sexually-suppressed woman?).
While women may browse the same video sites as men, there are whole different genres of porn that women like, and one of those is GAY PORN or SOLO MALE. Or porn which emphasizes penis or cum shots instead of zooming in on a woman's crotch or breasts.
At least, I don't THINK many straight men enjoy watching gay porn. In addition to that, consider that of all of the female fans of Japanese animation, a huge majority enjoy something called "Yaoi", which is essentially a story of gay erotica in art form(well-drawn comics). It also comes in recorded sound form, which voice actors will enact a sex scene which is recorded solely as sound. A lighter form of voice recordings is with solo males who speak romantically to the listener.
Also, when it comes to lesbian porn... Lesbian porn in general is made for men, and would repulse most real lesbians at how silly and misguided it is. Just like with most straight porn, they are not aiming towards real women when they make lesbian porn.

Yes, good points Fran. I

Yes, good points Fran. I think many people in society want to ignore he more recent research on females being visual, because it is in fact a blow to the male ego. Many prefer to pretend that women are not visual, while men are, because it excuses their bad behaviour (i.e. excessive porn use, and ogling other women), and keeps them feeling safe in that their female counterpart is eternally 'emotionally attached' and would never be able to so much as entertain a naughty thought about another male, because they are just not visually aroused by men. Give me a break! I want to see hot men...problem is (for me) is that searching for this often ends up with gay porn (which I have nothing against, but it doesn't do much for me). I don't like normal hardcore 'guy' porn because it looks boring, uncomfortable and sometimes painful for the woman! I also hate the violence aspect (but, I know some women like it). The lesbian porn is also boring because what they 'do' looks actually pretty much like it would feel like nothing. I am so sick of people oppressing female sexuality.

Don't tell me that it's a

Don't tell me that it's a fact I don't like porn, or men are more visual. I am soooo sick of hearing that. That is what men want to believe to make them selves feel more secure. Great excuse to exploit women and tell men they do not need to be attractive!

I am woman. I love watching good porn, oddly prefer gay male porn. No stupid plastic women and the men are hot, hot, hot!! I like watching them masturbate or suck another man.

It seems to me that I have a much larger range of turn on's than men. I think they are limited and have a deep seated need to limit female sexuality.

The porn sites mentioned in the article are ones I never heard of and I search for female oriented porn, but I am always bombarded with typical male porn. I gave up, perhaps I will check out the sites. I won't be surprised if it is mostly women and stupid, fat, ugly men though that seems to be the norm!!

[quote]Don't tell me that

Men will never understand women...

Anonymous wrote:
Don't tell me that it's a fact I don't like porn, or men are more visual. I am soooo sick of hearing that. That is what men want to believe to make them selves feel more secure. Great excuse to exploit women and tell men they do not need to be attractive!

I am woman. I love watching good porn, oddly prefer gay male porn. No stupid plastic women and the men are hot, hot, hot!! I like watching them masturbate or suck another man.

It seems to me that I have a much larger range of turn on's than men. I think they are limited and have a deep seated need to limit female sexuality.

The porn sites mentioned in the article are ones I never heard of and I search for female oriented porn, but I am always bombarded with typical male porn. I gave up, perhaps I will check out the sites. I won't be surprised if it is mostly women and stupid, fat, ugly men though that seems to be the norm!!

I agree with you. Gay porn is essentially to women, what lesbian porn is to men... but it isn't as sexist or inaccurate against men as lesbian porn is towards women.

It is surprising how many men do not know that when(or if) women orgasm vaginally, they ejaculate. Of all of the straight porn I have seen, I only see it happen in some Japanese or home-recording porn.

I also hate how society has thought of women as lacking of sexual desires, or that we must be pure virgins devoid of perversions.
Just because a woman isn't bragging about what porn she watches in public, doesn't mean she doesn't like it. She simply has common courtesy which many men online lack, or it's a personal thing to her. That or she knows she will be flamed against by those men.

Not all women enjoy seeing other women in porn. For the most part, they're almost always the "plastic" type with fake and exaggerated orgasms, whereas the man who is with her tends to be ugly, hairy, or fat. Or all three.
For me, when I browse video sites, I click the "Gay" or "Twink" button ASAP.
I do not want to see breasts and cunt all over, but because men apparently dominate the world, we must see it at every porn site in the form of ads.

While men may think, "Whatever, get over it, deal with it", that is a sexist and inconsiderate thing to say...
How would these men feel if their porn site was filled with gay porn ads, and had dick pics advertised all over?
How would men feel if society catered porn to women in the form of gay porn and straight porn focusing on the male's body?
How would they feel if men were often portrayed in crop tops and miniskirts/hot-pants(without pockets), and expected to be slim, while women were mostly portrayed with long-sleeved shirts/coats(with real pockets!) and jeans, and weren't expected to be thin/curvy?

Of course they aren't going to understand women, because they've never been in that situation.

A woman's place online is at the virtual mall.

Whereas porn for men is sexually explicit, porn for women is emotionally explicit. They don't necessarily need to go online because they're extravagantly catered to constantly in all the mainstream media.

You can tell from the ads what the targeted demographic is, and with women controlling ~85% of discretionary spending (the gap no one talks about), virtually everything outside sports is aimed at a female drama and romantic adventure loving audience. The womens talk and celebrity shows are practically nothing but sex, sex, and more sex; even Rachel Ray is doing underwear makeovers, and news stories get highly dramatized.

So I agree with the first comment about looking in the wrong place and missing what's in plain sight.

I always love when men tell

I always love when men tell me, as a woman, what it is that I like. Fuck off Martian Bachelor.

"with women controlling ~85%

"with women controlling ~85% of discretionary spending (the gap no one talks about)"

You do realise that this is only because men don't WANT to deal with the everyday shopping, right? Women don't "control" anything, because it's not control when you HAVE to do it.

"virtually everything outside sports is aimed at a female drama and romantic adventure loving audience. The womens talk and celebrity shows are practically nothing but sex, sex, and more sex; even Rachel Ray is doing underwear makeovers, and news stories get highly dramatized."

You're mistaking gossip for porn. Gossip isn't porn, for one simple and obvious reason: it doesn't sexually arouse anyone. So no, gossip doesn't count as 'porn for women'.

Poor poor Martian

Poor, poor Martian

Again suggesting the only reality you know is a teevee one. The only experience with women a virtual one. Peering from his martian land, at these alien beings he desires and yet cannot relate to.

And yet for all your judgement and ugliness, the very thing which may enable you to succeed socially, and thereby with women, are the very traits you so often seem to disdain in women. Intuition, empathy and social intelligence.

I suggest you work on them. A female therapist can work wonders. The therapeutic process is a very intimate one. And since there is NO (NO, NO, NO) therapist which can ethically engage in a sexual act with you, its a perfect opportunity to practice speaking to women, without your sexual frustration and ineptitude shining through like a goddamn beacon.

And wish you luck.

Here's an interesting article

Here's an interesting article on the increase in male objectification. Women have gained an incredible amount of sociopolitical power, and are now demanding that they get what they want. Kraft and Sauza are making millions off of their latest ads depicting hot, shirtless men. Turns out women are more visual than you idiots thought. Oh yea, and thanks for assuming for us, and not ASKING us ladies what it is that we like:

http://www.adweek.com/news/advertising-branding/hunkvertising-objectific...

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Ogi Ogas, Ph.D., studies computational neuroscience. He is co-author of A Billion Wicked Thoughts.

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