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Asperger Emotions and Adult Relationships

It has been often said, or implied, that people with Asperger's don't feel emotion.  Anyone who's known me through the years can testify that that is absolutely not true.  As with many others with Asperger's, I feel emotion, and feel them intensely, sometimes more so than a person who did not have Asperger's. Read More

nice to see that the psych

nice to see that the psych industry has started to realise what it looks like isn't what it is like.

a follow-up apology might be nice next.

Thanks for posting this. I

Thanks for posting this. I will definitely check out An Asperger Marriage and Natural Steps.

I wish more mental health

I wish more mental health professionals would become familiar with Asperger's in adults.

thx!

this was comforting... spoke about ME... :-)

yes we need more in the area of adult asperger's / AS - especially for us who are struggling to function in a 'normal' world, conscious of our unconsciousness...

Asperger's Sufferer is abused by workplace

Hi everyone.

I have Asperger's and work as an IT Coordinator, managing computers and networks.

I have great difficulty in expressing emotion, and when I do I tend to go overboard and scare people.

I've become a doormat and my boss walks all over me and I think she knows what I have. Is this a abuse?

I look after 380 computers/users, 16 servers, Project management, websites and they still push me harder.

Friends tell me I'm being abused due to my condition.

How do I confront my boss? I feel spineless, but at the same time I'm prepared for a fist fight over it! I'm afraid I'll blow up and hurt someone,. . . hence the self medicating and doormat syndrome. . any help is appreciated. . .

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YOU SOUND LIKE ME

imY FAMILY says that prople take advantage of me?
I know for a fact that as a child i was abused ofte and repeatedly.
My wife treated me like dirt and then left me, Wfat can I do.
Lee

Managing Conflict At Work

I think that conflict at work is one of the most challenging things for an aspie in the workplace.   I understand feeling taken advantage of and helpless, which builds up and up until you feel you are so angry you want to have a fist fight about it.  Unfortunately, I think that many of us deal with discomfort with conflict one of two ways, not saying anything, or blowing up.  This can be dangerous, and can give a bad reputation as a rageoholic.

The fact of the matter is confronting someone can be a very delicate matter - and doing so successfully often requires an ability to read the other persons' signals, and situational signals which may be difficult for us to read.   For me, I have coped by finding an NT that I can trust and running the situation by them.  They can usually provide the missing social context and information that I may have missed. 

Also, I've worked in the last few years to learn the difference between assertiveness and aggressiveness.  I've learned to talk about things early, before they get big.  If you swallow slight after slight after slight, you find that you overreact at bad times.  If you draw the line (carefully and respectfully) early, it can help.  Where is your line? Decide ahead of time so that you don't have to make that decision under duress. You may need to fight the little fights, before they become big ones.   Some managers will try to test your boundaries, so you need to actively protect them.   If they see that you're willing to do X, they may up the ante and ask you to do Y.   So, know your endgame.

The other piece is she may not be reading YOU - if you have difficulty expressing emotion, she may not realize exactly how upset you are, without an outward expression of it.   NTs show very clearly that they are upset with their body language.  If you are not showing that, even your verbal assertions of being angry may not be taken as seriously, because you're not displaying the customary "angry" body language and tone of voice.  Unfortunately, this comes with the territory.

If you are good at seeing patterns, see if you can find any in the situations that you're angry about.   What are the common themes?  Are they dumping last minute crises on you?  Is there a specific person who's involved?  Is your boss taking the way of least resistance (another worker will push back if they assign the work, so they assign it to you, figuring you won't say anything)?   If so, you may gently have to say, "I know that there is a large workload today, however, I have a personal commitment I need to take care of, so I will need to leave at 5 today.  I'd be happy to teach Reggie what needs to be done..."  This sets your boundaries, but offers a solution to help her get what she needs done.

If possible, it's best not to make it about you.  This can make you seem like a problem employee.  If you can, reframe your concern as a team concern...for example, if there's something that you're constantly stuck with on the excuse that you're the only one who knows how to do it, you may want to say, "I know that I am the only one that knows how to to do this, however, I believe we need to train someone else as well.  What would happen if I were hit by a bus tomorrow? We need to maintain continuity of service.  I'd be happy to train someone -  Reggie has the right background..."

It helps to be aware that there may be some components to the situation that you are not properly reading... For example, someone snaps at you.  You don't know what the heck you did to deserve that.  Instead of snapping back you reign yourself back and ask, "I may have read this wrong, but when you spoke to me just now, you seemed angry.  Is something the matter?"  This opens the door for them to tell you what is bothering them - maybe it's something you didn't realize you did.  Maybe it's something that you disagree with, either way you're talking rather than yelling. You may discover something that you did that you didn't realize.

Also, you have to build up a tolerance in understanding that sometimes, people will not be happy with you.   You can only do your best, but in the end, no-one can be all things to everybody.  Sometimes you have to say "No" - and know that there will be flack.     There are, unfortunately, as many bullies in the workplace as there were on the playground - except now they're grown up and a little more sophisticated.   Be firm, but courteous and polite.   Bullies thrive on getting you upset - so don't let them get  you upset if you can help it.

I HAVE Asperger where can I find a support for adults

I need to find a support group. I need to learn hpow to deal with life.

Lee

For some resources to find support groups check out the Oasis web site:

http://www.udel.edu/bkirby/asperger/

Click on "Support Groups."

I fully identify with this posting and discussion on Aspergers

I really appreciate reading this post and the comments such as above :
doormat at work
Wanting a support group
I wish more mental health
You Sound like me

I definitely seem to end up in situations where I am totally emotionally abused. Whether in the work place or in personal friendships. It took me up to the age of 40 (recently) to realize and be diagnosed with Aspergers.
I have just reached the end of my tether with a friend where this friend INSIST that I stress out and so on and so forth, while this friend is banging their hand on their leg for extra justification.

This is exactly what I cannot afford. There are many other examples and i am totally tired of this.

Then I also get blamed for not having emotions (thrown into my face since diagnosis).

Some people you just cannot reach in their perceptions and emotions and I am not talking about myself but more about emotional abusers.

adult aspergers

I lived with my husband for thirteen years. When I first met him it took quite a while to believe he was "for real". He was a strange combination of naivette and brilliance. I became his greatest fan... after his self. He was like no one I had ever met before, and I attributed this to artistic eccentricity. A sculpter first; he could turn his hand to anything. I had implicit faith that he would more than surpass at anything he attempted. Which he constantly did.
He kept me very well... in a pumpkin shell kind of way. Because he had a vision of a perfect life, which included a girl. And he would give her a perfect life, surrounded by beauty. and every thing he owned, she owned.

Father with AS

My father has mentioned being afflicted with AS. It was a passing comment that has finally offered some understanding into a lifetime of interaction with a man that could not be more difficult. This behavior led to my mother divorcing him and fleeing with her children out of fear for their safety, as she had no basis for this bizarre behavior. When this behavior moved from obnoxious outbursts to the punching of a hole in the wall she left with us. Since then my father has somehow convinced himself of an affair she had and her leaving for that reason other than his strange behavior. As a grown man now I see he has no interaction with any of his children for the sole issue of his behavior and treatment of us; and how his anger essentially scared the shit out of all of us children. I have done my very best to express this to him how this behavior has affected us and it inevitable leads back to some affair that never happened. We would be better suited to never speak of their divorce again but how do I get an apology for something so traumatic and move on with an individual that doesn’t seem to care for the pain they have caused?.

If I was a parent of a child with such a syndrome I would certainly offer understanding but the only emotion I know of this man is anger! All I desire is what I ask of any friend and that is an apology for the odd behavior and treatment. In his mind this all leads back to some affair and negates his treatment of his children and now grandchildren with which he has alienated. His behavior is misunderstood and I wish to afford him some understanding but he is such an ass and so insulting in general conversation I am drawn to anger and insulting in my on defense.

I just want an apology from him for being so angry. I would hope that any human knowing they were afflicted with such a disorder would at some point in their life offer some understanding faked or not. Such is the job of a parent – a truly unselfish position.

Any thoughts?

re: father with AS

Hi there, I can see it's been months since you posted this, but I hope you have come to some peace since then. I am sorry to hear of your situation, it's a tough one. It sounds like your dad, whether he has AS or something else, cannot really comprehend the effect of his actions. In this case, I don't think you are going to get any joy out of trying to get an apology from him, sadly. I know you have a right to expect it, but since it's unlikely to happen, it would probably be best for you to make up your mind to move past it somehow, perhaps with counselling or other help, otherwise it will continue to have a hold over you and your life. I wish you all the best!

I can't say I have anything

I can't say I have anything really worth while to add to the conversation here but I have to say, I have never seen what goes on in my head so perfectly explained. It's such a weight off my shoulders, I've been tormented by the inability to explain how I think and feel, feeling like I was broken, now I actually feel like I can start to work around this. Thanks sooooo so much!

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