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Attention, Ladies: Semen Is An Antidepressant

Perhaps you're familiar with the McClintock effect, the observation that when groups of reproductive-age women live or work together (in college housing, the military, all-female workplaces, etc.), over time their menstrual periods tend to become synchronized. Read More

I don't believe that exposure

I don't believe that exposure to semen explains why lesbians do not experience the McClintock effect. From my own observations, living in an all girls boarding house during high school, the majority of girls were not sexually active yet menstrual periods synchronised....

Im in my 50s now and while I

Im in my 50s now and while I had never heard of the McClintock effect I have been syncronising my periods with my lesbian lovers and other women I have lived with for years.
Going to the Michigan womyns music festival, an annual event for the last 35 years, the organisers advise festival goers that women regularly get unexpected periods due to the presence of thousands of women at the event.
Dont know who this McClintock is but s/he doesnt seem to have done the right research.

I totally agree...frustrated

I totally agree...frustrated at reading this article of nonsense this is the point I was eagerly about to make.

I believe I agree with

I believe I agree with you!!!! :o)

A Glaring Oversight?

The speculative conclusions drawn here seem to be largely based on the study participants' self-evaluation of mood, etc. Another commenter noticed what also jumped out at me as a very obvious possibility, but was never mentioned. That, perhaps, the participants who "never" wore condoms were people who were, from the start, the least worried about ANYTHING, or at least had a perception of personal invincibility. Additionally, I have met many people who were happily ignorant of anything unsavory to think about, such as STI's, nuclear power plant explosions, etc. It was as if they simply "didn't want to think about it" if the consideration of it would be emotionally unpleasant, and they actively avoided becoming informed of such things.

Perhaps these "least depressed" people were so because of a variety of factors that had little to do with semen. Perhaps an emotional predisposition toward avoidance of unpleasantries combined with the often resultant ignorance of them contributed to both being the least depressed and comfort with unprotected sex.

I am not saying that I think this is the "real" reason, to the exclusion of what are probably many factors involved. It just seemed that the emotional and personality predispositions of the participants were given little mention, hence possibly little consideration, in the drawing of their conclusions.

Truly fascinating stuff! I

Truly fascinating stuff! I love learning about the cross-sections between sex and mental health.

@Anonymous - What does synchronized menstrual periods have to do with lesbians not experiencing the McClintock effect?

@Steven: The McClintock

@Steven: The McClintock effect is synchronized menstruating. Look at the start of the article.

Cheezus, Steven. What exactly

Cheezus, Steven. What exactly did you think the McClintock effect was, if you didn't catch that?

Because they're saying that

Because they're saying that maybe girls period sync because of the hormones in the semen and lesbians don't have these hormones because they do not engage in sex with men. So they do not maintain these hormones induced from semen.

Incorrect

Lesbians do experience the McClintock effect. Not all heterosexual women experience. It's just a generalization. Honestly, I am rather disturbed by this article. Maybe the women are happier because they are having better sex, contact with sperm or not.

This is a silly article. The

This is a silly article. The study itself is correlational, and as any good scientist knows "correlation does not imply causation". There are many, many factors that might explain the association between sex without condoms and elevated mood found in this study. For example, young women with naturally occurring higher mood might choose to engage in sex without condoms because being happier they feel more indestructible (and are therefore more reckless). This is an example of a "direction effect", in which the casual pathway proceeds from happiness to choosing sex without condoms, rather than from sperm to happiness. It is also possible, for example, that there is a "third variable" that explains the effect. An example of a third variable is illustrated by the comment below: perhaps some property of the condoms themselves reduces happiness. Or, perhaps women who are choosing to have sex without condoms have higher quality relationships with their sexual partners, which in turn leads to higher levels of happiness. To speculate that sperm is a causal factor without a randomly-controlled study is irresponsible at best, and (given the author is male) narcissistic at worst.

good points.

thank you for pointing out this. One would think that an article in Psychology Today would not possess the amateur mistake of assuming correlation to be causation. A third factor could also have been relationship status. This is only speculation and observation from my own experiences, but I think young women in exclusive relationships are more likely to have sex without condoms, and women who engage in casual sex with multiple partners are more likely to use condoms. And I think GENERALLY women in exclusive/stable relationships tend to be happier than women who are single.

Controls

Good points, although those controls (condoms may have been the reason for depression) may have been tested, but for this article they didn't spell out the whole experiment. If there is formal research done, they should reference the work.

Toxic condoms?

How do you know that the results aren't caused by the toxicity of the condoms? Latex has been known to cause anaphylactic shock in those who are sensitive to it. Could it's toxicity negate pleasure?

Women who were not sexually

Women who were not sexually active at all were included in the study, so the toxicity of condoms would not be relevant to them.

Toxicity of condoms?

Anaphylactic shock has nothing to do with toxicity. It's a hypersensitivity reaction. Do you also think peanuts and shellfish are toxic?

When I moved briefly in with

When I moved briefly in with my mother-in-law, she and I started menstruating at the same time and trust me, she was not getting any. I'm starting to find Psychology Today to be not much more than hyperbolic headlines and sweeping generalizations.

Psychology Today is a for-profit business

As a Psychology Professor and researcher I can tell you that Psychology Today cares a lot more about profit than responsible dissemination of research findings.

I know it's immature but...

Given the title of the article, I really couldn't help but laugh at a very well placed (and unintended?) pun.

Wonder if the positive

Wonder if the positive effects are achieved when sperm is ingested? Sure gets around the safe-sex issue.

No, no it does not "get

No, no it does not "get around" that issue. Please do not think that ingesting semen and exposing yourself to herpes, HIV, and a slew of other STDs is "safe sex" simply because it won't leave you with a baby.

As a lesbian who has never

As a lesbian who has never been in contact with semen, I've synced my period with former girlfriends, female roommates and close female friends.
And, pretty sure the McClintock effect has nothing to do with the semen=antidepressant topic. Bad article writing...

68 women living in the same

68 women living in the same barracks in boot camp. None of us getting any (at least not from men). ALL of us got out periods within about 4 days of one another. I know this because I was in charge of pads and tampons. I call BS on this article.

All that being said, I can still use this article to justify making my husband get a vasectomy. :)

response

Get a firm grip on your ears. Another REMF that did not read but scanned the information. Obviously your limited skills prevented you from fully explaining yourself lest you be exposed as a chapter 4-DD. Rather than a vasectomy give your hapless husband running shoes; something he really needs.
I notice you missed the idea of mood enhancing. Why? No canadian bull? Any reference to the anti-depressants? Just stupidity-routine. You need a shirt-BS---It's not just my breakfast anymore.

remf

How can the article be bs when your own words proved the information? 4 days? Sounds like you prove the theory. At most you would have had three-BCT does not last forever-then AIT starts.
Give sad sack wings and take a high colonic for the forced march. Something you both desperatley need. Him so he can sky and you to clear your vision.

Guess you missed the part of

Guess you missed the part of her comment where she said that no one in the barracks were getting laid.

not bright

NOWHERE is the mention of sex in the comment. DUH.
Why did you think of that when sex was NO part of the reply. Get out your specs and reasd AGAIN. DUH

-Ovulation- causes women to

-Ovulation- causes women to be more interested in sex during ovulation. All those feel-good, sexy-making hormones coursing through our veins during ovulation are responsible for a higher interest in sex, more outgoing demeanor, subtle physical changes to the face and body, and even cause women to dress sexier. NOT exposure to semen.

And cloistered nuns even experience the McClintock Effect (which isn't to say at least -some- of them aren't getting laid).

I'm shocked to find such a poorly-written article on PT.

response

ovulation in itself does not cause women to want sex during ovulation. Like too many others, you refused to read the article as a whole as opposed to the exception-like saying smoking is ok beause someone somked for 50 years and died of a car wreck rather than smoking related issues.Itis much more than hormones. Why can't you figure that out? Was semen listed as a causation of women feeling different during ovulation? Which paragraph and sentence was it. Get your micro out and pinpoint it. The shock should not be about the article but your closed and limited mental skills. Spouting off to spout may make you fel superior but truly shows your lack of reading skills.
Hope you feel better about yourself. If not, I am certain you will flatten the next guy that holds a door open for you. Happens to me all the time.
Truly funny thing-lesbians love me.

lol you have issues. Calling

lol you have issues. Calling others stupid because we all know this article is BS.
When you talk down to people and call them names it only shows us more how really very little you know.

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San Francisco journalist Michael Castleman, M.A., has written about sexuality for 36 years. He publishes GreatSexAfter40.com

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