"I love my kids. I'm gonna raise them a lot different
than my parents raised me—because my parents damaged me. I
love them for that, because it made me who I am today. But my
kids don't need to be that successful." It's a quintessential
John Leguizamo riff—and it's true, besides. The 40-year-old
actor-comedian has in fact been strikingly successful. With
more than 50 films to his credit, he's played everything from a
sex-obsessed disco prince (Summer of Sam) to an ambitious
anchorman in Cronicas, a morally ambiguous film
about a serial killer. But Leguizamo is beloved for his one-man
shows, several of which were made into HBO comedy specials, and
one of which, Freak, won an Emmy. The monologues are frank
about heartbreak, sex, racial suspicion, sex, being a teenage
loser, sex, the pain of divorce and sex, but Leguizamo's real
power is in his physical presence. He struts the stage in tight
jeans, tattoo and Queens-bred attitude, radiating a kinetic mix
of humor and vulgarity, offending and charming in the same
breath. It's amazing what he can get away with. The core of his
act is over-the-top impersonations: his king-of-the-hill
grandfather, his squabbling parents and the various women he's
chased, bedded, disappointed and been disappointed by. Much of
his act turns on precise—and hilarious—depictions of the
ways men and women completely fail to understand each other.
He spoke with PT's Kathleen McGowan about modern
fatherhood and the lighter side of family malice.
PT:
A lot of your act spoofs stereotypes—how do you
play with prejudices without antagonizing your audience?
JL: I don't want to be a placebo. I want people to be
shaken up a little. I don't mind a lowbrow fart-dick joke so
long as I've earned it somehow. The struggle is to go to all
those levels. I love all my characters, even the ones I'm
attacking. That's why I'm an actor. It makes me appreciate
differences and oddities, things that other people are put off
or bored by.
You were born in Colombia, and your father is Puerto
Rican. What perspective does that give you on U.S. family
life?
Growing up here in Queens it was just nuclear family:
dad, mom and my brother. Quiet. Too tired from work. Get home.
Turn on the TV. Get rid of the kids. Next day, same thing. When
I went back to Latin America, it was amazing. Everybody was
together—there were so many orators and witty people; dinner
would last for four hours. That's what influenced my
work.
You joke that you come from "a long line of sick,
twisted, dysfunctional relationships." How have you escaped
that?
My father didn't give you choices. He didn't ask what
you wanted; he told you what he wanted. But I don't want to be
like my dad. I don't want to repeat what he did. When I'm not
working, I have to be Dad—I have to be taking my kids to
school, picking them up, taking them to the bathroom. It's
expected. The reversal of roles is wild. But there's a
closeness that happens when you do mundane things with your
kids. It's like therapy. It's a Zen thing. I don't have to be
doing important shit all the time—it's nice to be
subservient to your child, up to a point.
Is it strange to see your kids grow up so differently
from how you did?
Yeah! They have a country house. I had a public
community pool that people peed in. I've been asking my friends—how do we fuck them up a little bit? So that they grow up
right. Because you've got to have adversity. You've got to
understand that to hit bottom—to fail—is not a bad thing.
Kids that don't have adversity—once they hit the wall, they
just break. But what can I do—perform some kind of fiendish
experiment? Throw them into a ghetto school and say, hey, go
fend for yourself?
This is your second marriage—and you make a lot of
dark jokes about the first, which ended in divorce. What did
you learn?
I don't think people should be married before age 30!
You don't know who you are, and your hormones are too crazy.
It's hard to take back things that you've said to one another.
Once you say something, it's never really gone. You've got an
imaginary scoreboard on both sides. It seems like women in
their 40s are all leaving their men. I have a lot of guy
friends who want to blame the chick—she's the one who left.
But I tell them: You're the one who drove her away,
brother.
Do you have any insight to help men and women get what they want from each other?
We like to have our egos caressed all the time:
"You're a great provider. What a hero you are. You are so
amazing in bed." Lie if you have to! Guys will do anything. For
men, what's always so hard not to do is to try to solve
everything. It's almost impossible. We are so programmed to
give advice, to say fix this, do this, do that. You have to
just switch yourself off. You know all that when you're first
dating. The guy pays more attention. The woman swoons more—makes a big production. You make each other feel great. And
then you both start getting tired.
The character you play in Cronicas is morally complex—a self-promoting TV reporter who also wants to catch the bad
guy.
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