A woman for the times

PT INTERVIEW

Columnist Anna Quindlen has become the standard bearer of a new brand of journalism that obliterates the line between what happens at home and what happens in the world of politics and business. You may disagree with her take on abortion (she's for) or on the death penalty (against), but every column clamors with the sound of one person thinking.

PT: You've implied that one of your goals is to advance the understanding of the human condition. How do you, Anna Quindlen, do that as opposed to what other columnists do?

AQ: The most important thing that I bring to this column is years of experience as a reporter. I still do an enormous amount of reporting for my column. I don't write about the homeless from an office at The New York Times. I go to homeless shelters, I talk to people on the street. I always have a notebook in my purse. One of the ways that you expand your understanding of the human condition in my work is to reflect the human condition, to talk about how people are living now. The ideal way for me to do that is through reporting.

But once I've done that, the key. element for me in writing this column has always been walking people through the arguments. I don't find inherently interesting a column that says you should be for capital punishment or you're a moron. But if you walk people through arguments for and against capital punishment that they haven't heard before, perhaps looking at a specific human being who's sitting on death row, at the end of that process they can say to themselves, "Gee, I never thought of it in quite that way before." It's not that I want to make them think like me, and in fact, given the mail we get, it's dear that many readers do not think like me on many subjects. But I like the idea of making them think about an important issue in a different way.

PT: Columnists traditionally tell people what they themselves think Is this what you set out to do?

AQ: Telling you what I think about a certain issue is basically paragraph D. How long does it take to figure out that I think abortion should be legal? The rest of the 750 words, to be interesting, have to be taken up with: here are the arguments, and here is an argent that you may not have heard before. Sometimes I can do that myself and sometimes other people do that for me. In the column that I wrote about what I like to call the Nicole Brown-Simpson case, as opposed to the O. J. Simpson case, I quoted the L. A. city attorneys in charge of domestic violence, saying that their coroner, by unofficial count, is seeing a domestic violence homicide every day and a half. That's the kind of thing that makes you look at the issue in a whole new way and it's where reporting serves me. Do you know that I'm against domestic violence? Sure. But at the end of that column you may be thinking a slightly different way about a case that heretofore has been predominantly about the person who is accused of roughing up his wife in 1989 and not about that wife who is now a murder victim.

PT: Do you ever find it tiresome to be in your column as a person?

AQ: Yeah, I do. There are certain days when I don't want to appear too much in those 750 words, and those are days when I'll turn to reporting and take more of a look from the outside in. The fact is, though, that there are certain subjects on which the most powerful statement you can make is a personal statement. So, for example, I could have written a more hands-off column about grief than I did last spring, but the reason I was writing that column and felt so strongly about it was because my brother had just lost his wife to cancer. When I feel that it's useful to talk with the readers about something that will affect them very powerfully, too, I don't hesitate to do it, but I couldn't do it twice a week, 52 weeks a year.

PT: One day you're writing about how your kids spent a snow day. The next day you're analyzing Whitewater or clerical denunciations of homosexuality. What kind of journalism is that?

AQ: It's journalism that reflects the way real people live. Most of us ricochet wildly from thinking about Paula Jones to thinking about whether our kids ought to go to private or public school. I fail to see why our newspapers, in some sense, shouldn't reflect the way we live now. The very same readers who will be interested in what I have to say about the newest nominee to the Supreme Court, because it's something that they've been thinking about, will also be interested in seeing what I have to say about telling the kids about Santa Claus, because, again, that's something they've been thinking about The idea that we have to divide the world into what happens at home and what happens out in the orbit of the professions and of politics is specious, because I don't think anybody lives that way.

PT: So are you really redefining public issues or what we consider public issues?

AQ: I don't think I'm redefining them. A lot of what we do in the press has been transformed by the woman's movement, which, argued that the personal is political. I do believe that the personal is political. I don't think most people feel the way they do about abortion rights because they've read a variety of medical and legal treatises about the subject, but because of thoughts they've had about their own situation, about friends they've had who mayor may not have chosen to have abortions because of ways they think about what they would like the future to hold for their children.

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