Breakfast with Buchwald

AB: I'm not sure. I mean, we're talking about something that--all I can tell you is what happened to me. What happened to me was there was no pill. I had these terrible depressions, they lasted four months or six months, no more than six months. And out of it I got relieved of tremendous amounts of hang-ups. I got relieved of guilt.

I had therapy with it. I had a lot of therapy. So I'm grateful how it came out for me, and I'm also grateful with--you see, the biggest danger obviously of a humorist when he goes into a depression is he'll never be funny again, and that causes more depression. But I personally give credit to my depressions for making me a better writer and a better person. And it would be a danger if I became a professional antidepression person. But there's a big interest in it though, what you are saying. You guys can survive just on a depression magazine.

PT: That's for sure.

AB: This book liberated me. I can now do serious pieces and not worry about them. I did a column the other day where I go to the Holocaust Museum. It's the year 2005, and I've got a little boy with me. Only it turns out in the first paragraph that it's not the Jewish Holocaust Museum, it's the Bosnian Holocaust Museum. I give him a tour--the women who were raped, the women who were killed. And all the kid keeps saying to me is why didn't we do anything?

And that's the whole story, and I've always thought of Bosnia as being another Holocaust. So I wrote it and then I saw where they're moving out tanks from Sarajevo, and I decided to hold it because the United States in the column doesn't come out too good. So the hell with it.

But all my subject matter--I have one now that I'm gonna write today. And this is why I don't have to work too hard. I just read in the paper that Clinton wants to tax the poor to pay for the poor! Wait a minute, you think I'm bullshitting you. Yeah, he wants to tax the poor to pay for the poor. So I'm going to do a column on the poor people sitting around discussing what might be tax deductible for them. And I've been doing this kind of thing for forty-four years.

But you have to took at it from my standpoint. I am not making judgments on these things. I am looking at them and saying, "Do you know enough about this story for me to make fun of? That's all I'm doing. Because I'm not a judgmental person. I have my own ideas about when somebody's lying.

PT: Do you feel a pressure to be funny?

AB: No.

PT. Do you feel any pressure at all?

AB: Not really. I mean-you want to know what causes an anxiety attack? It's being in Chicago and O'Hare Airport being shut down and me realizing I'll never get out for the rest of my life. Transportation is my biggest problem these days.

PT: Next to the phone company.

AB: The phone company is something else again. I'll only tell you two guys this: If you know anybody whose got telephone stock, tell them to get rid of it. And when you hear of its downfall, you'll know it started here.

PT: When are you going to launch your attack on the telephone company?

AB: I have to figure out how to do it. First of all, it's not a telephone company anymore. There's ten thousand telephone companies! And they're all making money, and they're all going out of the phone business--and they're going into Paramount Pictures!

*EDITOR'S NOTE: Buchwald sued Paramount Pictures over the film, claiming the plot was plagiarized from a script he had written, and won.

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PHOTO: January 1969 Psychology Today with Art Buchwald on the cover

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