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PT Interview: Major personalities whohave influenced the national mind

MARIAN WRIGHT EDELMAN: AN INTERVIEW WITH THE MOST CONCERNED PARENT IN AMERICA

As founder and president of the Children's Defense Fund, Marian Wright Edelman has kept her eye on the nation's kids for the past 20 years-a time, she says, when few others were willing to do so. She's sort of the nation's top mom, with friends in high places like the White House. And, as parents are wont to do, she used the occasion more to deliver a lecture than to engage in a discussion.

PT: The statistics on children in poverty today are pretty startling. From the mental health establishment also comes some pretty grim evidence. In a reversal of traditional trends, young kids are getting depressed. Adolescents are killing each other and themselves. By any measure that we take, our kids are in deep trouble. What's gone wrong?

MWE: We've really had a breakdown in community and family values in this nation. We've obviously had very altered priorities in the last 12 years that basically gave us permission to be our worst selves rather than our best selves. The slow progress on children that began in the Sixties, with the establishment of new political and civil rights, didn't last long enough.

As we began to realize that we don't have endless resources and have to make some choices, a backlash began, combined with less committed leadership. All the great expansions in food stamps and child nutrition came from the Nixon years, but his ringing veto of the child-development bill left a residue of fear about government interference in family life that took us 20 years to overcome. Mr. Reagan and Mr. Bush said in effect that it was okay to be selfish and cater to racism. We began to scapegoat each other rather than figure ways of coming together.

Instead of being considered as national investment priorities, families, children, the poor, and minorities were deemed not important. We had a transfer of resources away from domestic needs-families, job creation, the economy, investing in housing-to the rich. There are extraordinary tax breaks for non-needy corporations and non-needy individuals, so that as the income of people at the top went up dramatically, the income of those at the bottom eroded, while the middle stagnated.

We have had a decade or so of very painful division by race, by age, and by class, and children were the true victims. Children are now the poorest Americans. Young families of all races suffered an extraordinary decline in earnings-these are the parents of young children, the cradle of nurture for the next generation. We're paying for the results of that. And now we have three other plagues.

PT: Crack. AIDS....

MWE: And violence. All are unprecedented and occurred at a time when our public health infrastructure was eroding and more and more people were becoming uninsured. So we have this spectacle of the wealthiest nation on Earth-though we're the greatest debtor nation-not even skillfully immunizing our kids. We have to get children immunized.

PT: Back to basics.

MWE: Ninety-five percent of children in China are immunized. Here in our nation's capital only 43 percent of preschool children are fully immunized. That shows you how far we have dropped. Psychologically our threshold of tolerance for totally morally unacceptable things has been lowered. A child is murdered every three hours. A gun is produced every 20 seconds and a million folks are walking around with semiautomatic weapons.

PT: Have we made any progress with children in 20 years?

MWE: Children are now visible. People are beginning to understand-unfortunately, it has to come out of tragedy-that the things we thought happened only to other people's children are happening to all of our children.

PT: We now have a new administration and public mood, but do we have the resources to make the investments we need?

MWE. Well, we've got to do what we've got to do to save ourselves and save our children, who are criminally transformed in values.The casing for all that has happened over the last years in America has been a shift to defining success by external things. You are powerful if you have a gun or if you have lots of things or lots of money. These externally driven market values have been allowed to consume us all. One of the first things we are going to have to do is make some hard choices and some hard sacrifices. We do have a $4 trillion deficit that children didn't cause. We're going to have to recognize that there are some things that a decent society has to do. And one of them is to say some things are wrong and unacceptable-killing children, shooting children, letting children be shot, letting children not be safe in their homes or on the street.

We need sensible deficit reduction, but we also have a human investment deficit. You can't solve all of one without investing in the other-in early childhood, Head Start, immunization, and the Women, Infants, and Children nutrition program (WIC). If you don't invest in your people, your children, and your schools, then you're not going to have a productive economy in the future.

While we do have the plagues of violence, economic insecurity, and racial intolerance, there is a readiness and a new activism that you can feel. People are beginning to understand that we've got to come back together.

PT: How do You account for this change?

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